Trades:

I'd take Konerko over Zimm and Ludwick over Markakis this year. Street is on the DL

i put it on the espn fantasy baseball message board and asked others opinions.... i put both trades up and asked weather they thought the trades were fair, these are the responses.

"Felix for Cueto not even close... The Zimm Tulo wins by a MILE"

"Both of these are laughable...the first one is 3 WW pitchers for a stud
The second one is 2 top 30 players for not much in return...hate to break it to you but your playing with very bad owners"

"Both of these trades are unbalanced and I would reply only with laughter"

"no"

"They're more than fair for one person involved." - he means you LA

Just a little outside perspective...

Yeah the Felix trade was unfair but I didnt complain because it doesnt matter bigs had already accepted it. It sucks that we blasted Golbez for his trade with Kings and then we pretty much let LA do the same thing LOL.

Mantis's trade got blasted because it included Hanley

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Mantis's trade got blasted because it included Hanley

Yeah I do agree with u that golbez shouldnt have went through but I think Oggy has a point here that u picked up another Ace to ur staff for really next to nothing. Bigs allowed it so I guess it doesnt matter to argue over it but I think u got away with a robbery LOL. Im not sure what Oggy offered for him but I know I had a package that I offered him that was way better than what he got in ur deal. Like I said not worth argueing over but Im rooting against u from now on not because of this trade because I dont want to play ur ass in the playoffs LOL.

oggy420 wrote:

i put it on the espn fantasy baseball message board and asked others opinions.... i put both trades up and asked weather they thought the trades were fair, these are the responses.

"Felix for Cueto not even close... The Zimm Tulo wins by a MILE"

"Both of these are laughable...the first one is 3 WW pitchers for a stud
The second one is 2 top 30 players for not much in return...hate to break it to you but your playing with very bad owners"

"Both of these trades are unbalanced and I would reply only with laughter"

"no"

"They're more than fair for one person involved." - he means you LA

Just a little outside perspective...

I went and read that just now, there was also 2 posts that felt the Nerko one was legit

The problem with those guys is they go off name value to much and not how the players are actually doing, for instance when I put Jimenez and LaRoche for A-Rod on there they laughed at it, I wouldn't trade Jimenez for A-Rod straight up anymore.

Felix is 2-4, with a 3.84 ERA and 1.45 Whip, Cueto is 4-1 with a 3.60 ERA and 1.18 Whip he's pitching really well

Enough complaints and I'll drop him though

And everyone got emails on this 3/4 days ago, Bigs let it playout to probably see if there would be any complaints, he just let the trade go through the 2/3 day waiting period instead of pushing it through.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

i put it on the espn fantasy baseball message board and asked others opinions.... i put both trades up and asked weather they thought the trades were fair, these are the responses.

"Felix for Cueto not even close... The Zimm Tulo wins by a MILE"

"Both of these are laughable...the first one is 3 WW pitchers for a stud
The second one is 2 top 30 players for not much in return...hate to break it to you but your playing with very bad owners"

"Both of these trades are unbalanced and I would reply only with laughter"

"no"

"They're more than fair for one person involved." - he means you LA

Just a little outside perspective...

I went and read that just now, there was also 2 posts that felt the Nerko one was legit

The problem with those guys is they go off name value to much and not how the players are actually doing, for instance when I put Jimenez and LaRoche for A-Rod on there they laughed at it, I wouldn't trade Jimenez for A-Rod straight up anymore.

Felix is 2-4, with a 3.84 ERA and 1.45 Whip, Cueto is 4-1 with a 3.60 ERA and 1.18 Whip he's pitching really well

Enough complaints and I'll drop him though

Drop him?? Dont do that shit. U got him u keep him. Ur full of shit U would take A-Rod for Ubaldo straight up LOL.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

And everyone got emails on this 3/4 days ago, Bigs let it playout to probably see if there would be any complaints, he just let the trade go through the 2/3 day waiting period instead of pushing it through.

Not to mad about ur trade just that evry time some1 else makes a deal u try to fight it LOL.

Not a chance I would anymore, offer the trade to me and find out

A drop and drop thing, or drop and no one can have him

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Not a chance I would anymore, offer the trade to me and find out

A drop and drop thing, or drop and no one can have him

Keep his ass Im gonna beat u anyways!!!!

timthebim wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

And everyone got emails on this 3/4 days ago, Bigs let it playout to probably see if there would be any complaints, he just let the trade go through the 2/3 day waiting period instead of pushing it through.

Not to mad about ur trade just that evry time some1 else makes a deal u try to fight it LOL.

Tim I fought this trade

Hanley Ramirez, Felix and Hamilton for Reyes, Podsednik and CJ Wilson very different, check what CJ's been up to lately

I'll be fair to the league, whatever you guys decide is fine

of the 3 guys he traded for Felix, 0 of them are owned in more than 70% of leagues. That makes them waivere wire pitchers. You shouldn't be able to get an ace for that.

the other trade he gets Zimmerman who's one of the best 3b's in the league, Tulo who's one of the top 3 SS's in the league, and Markakis, another all-star.

He gives away Nyjer Morgan who'd now only owned in 70% of leagues and is now at being dropped at a -13 and is hitting 260 with 8 rbi's. Konerko's obviously gonna come back down to earth, LA is the only person alive who would take him over zimmerman for the season. Bartlett is hitting 240 with and has no power and for a steals guy, well he has a whopping 3 steals. Ludwick is the only somewhat decent player he gave up in that deal.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

timthebim wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

And everyone got emails on this 3/4 days ago, Bigs let it playout to probably see if there would be any complaints, he just let the trade go through the 2/3 day waiting period instead of pushing it through.

Not to mad about ur trade just that evry time some1 else makes a deal u try to fight it LOL.

Tim I fought this trade

Hanley Ramirez, Felix and Hamilton for Reyes, Podsednik and CJ Wilson very different, check what CJ's been up to lately

I fought it with u remember???

it's whatever, don't drop him. I just thought i had to point out what was going on. It's just disappointing that Kings is doing all these completely bogus trades with LA and he doesn't even have the decency to respond to my offers.

U have to PM Kings cause he dont respond to much else LOL.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

i put it on the espn fantasy baseball message board and asked others opinions.... i put both trades up and asked weather they thought the trades were fair, these are the responses.

"Felix for Cueto not even close... The Zimm Tulo wins by a MILE"

"Both of these are laughable...the first one is 3 WW pitchers for a stud
The second one is 2 top 30 players for not much in return...hate to break it to you but your playing with very bad owners"

"Both of these trades are unbalanced and I would reply only with laughter"

"no"

"They're more than fair for one person involved." - he means you LA

Just a little outside perspective...

I went and read that just now, there was also 2 posts that felt the Nerko one was legit

The problem with those guys is they go off name value to much and not how the players are actually doing, for instance when I put Jimenez and LaRoche for A-Rod on there they laughed at it, I wouldn't trade Jimenez for A-Rod straight up anymore.

Felix is 2-4, with a 3.84 ERA and 1.45 Whip, Cueto is 4-1 with a 3.60 ERA and 1.18 Whip he's pitching really well

Enough complaints and I'll drop him though

i posted it on a couple other boards cause i was looking for a good perspective

"I probably wouldn't waste my time in a league trades like these go through in. Trade one is kind of bad, but at least somewhat understandable in certain circumstances, trade two is completely idiotic. "
The overwhelming majority thought both trades were completely unfair...

oggy420 wrote:

of the 3 guys he traded for Felix, 0 of them are owned in more than 70% of leagues. That makes them waivere wire pitchers. You shouldn't be able to get an ace for that.

the other trade he gets Zimmerman who's one of the best 3b's in the league, Tulo who's one of the top 3 SS's in the league, and Markakis, another all-star.

He gives away Nyjer Morgan who'd now only owned in 70% of leagues and is now at being dropped at a -13 and is hitting 260 with 8 rbi's. Konerko's obviously gonna come back down to earth, LA is the only person alive who would take him over zimmerman for the season. Bartlett is hitting 240 with and has no power and for a steals guy, well he has a whopping 3 steals. Ludwick is the only somewhat decent player he gave up in that deal.

I've never used % owned to grade players, never even looked at it, otherwise I wouldn't have Francis or Ely.

Morgan is a steals and runs OF much like Bourn, they are a valuable commodity to a team

Ludwick is the only decent player? Konerko is still the most valuable player in the deal, no signs of him slowing down, I'd def take him back or Lud over Markakis for sure.

You can say the 4-4 trade is bogus all you want, but it's legit, those guys are looking at name value too much.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

of the 3 guys he traded for Felix, 0 of them are owned in more than 70% of leagues. That makes them waivere wire pitchers. You shouldn't be able to get an ace for that.

the other trade he gets Zimmerman who's one of the best 3b's in the league, Tulo who's one of the top 3 SS's in the league, and Markakis, another all-star.

He gives away Nyjer Morgan who'd now only owned in 70% of leagues and is now at being dropped at a -13 and is hitting 260 with 8 rbi's. Konerko's obviously gonna come back down to earth, LA is the only person alive who would take him over zimmerman for the season. Bartlett is hitting 240 with and has no power and for a steals guy, well he has a whopping 3 steals. Ludwick is the only somewhat decent player he gave up in that deal.

I've never used % owned to grade players, never even looked at it, otherwise I wouldn't have Francis or Ely.

Morgan is a steals and runs OF much like Bourn, they are a valuable commodity to a team

Ludwick is the only decent player? Konerko is still the most valuable player in the deal, no signs of him slowing down, I'd def take him back or Lud over Markakis for sure.

U just said something about me trading Vargas acouple days ago because u said he was owned in like 50 percent of the leagues and he was a WW pitcher LOL.

nah dude, your view is very scued. You can admit you got over, the trades are done and no one's gonna change them.

I just cant believe how tough our division is. I got Bigs this week how bout u guys??

I said you just picked him up 2 days ago, I've never even looked at % owned till right now, that doesn't bother me though becuase Aardsma is shitting it this year.

Yeah I dont try to get OVER LOL!!! I just wanted saves LOL.