Trades:

Marlon Bird is ranked 17th overall right now, where do you think he ends up?

GolbeZ wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

Sorry Mantis, nothing personal...but a trade of Jose Reyes who's having a shitty year for Hanley who is probably the best SS in baseball just can't happen. The rest of the trade wasn't that bad but definitely a lopsided trade at best.

And me sending him arguably a top 10 pitcher right now means nothing?

He was sending you back a good pitcher as well. I just don't think the trade was fair. If you really want Hanley you can try to put something together that is more fair and I'll send it through.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Marlon Bird is ranked 17th overall right now, where do you think he ends up?

Where I think doesnt mean he will. And Marlon Bird is good as hell btw. So if you don't think he will than "sell high" as they say.

Bigs03 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

Sorry Mantis, nothing personal...but a trade of Jose Reyes who's having a shitty year for Hanley who is probably the best SS in baseball just can't happen. The rest of the trade wasn't that bad but definitely a lopsided trade at best.

And me sending him arguably a top 10 pitcher right now means nothing?

He was sending you back a good pitcher as well. I just don't think the trade was fair. If you really want Hanley you can try to put something together that is more fair and I'll send it through.

I dont even want Felix.

I don't think Hanley can be in the deal, I was trying to see how he could do it, I don't think those 3 players are worth Hanley alone.

Do Pod for Hammy quick before Oggy notices

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I don't think Hanley can be in the deal, I was trying to see how he could do it, I don't think those 3 players are worth Hanley alone.

Do Pod for Hammy quick before Oggy notices

naw man fuck it.. you guys rip his team apart and veto my shit.

My only goal is to stay in front of BBC.

I wouldn't veto that, do it because it's fair enough, Timmy got a nice one in for himself with a waiver pickup from 2 days ago

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Hamilton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pod

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GolbeZ wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I don't think Hanley can be in the deal, I was trying to see how he could do it, I don't think those 3 players are worth Hanley alone.

Do Pod for Hammy quick before Oggy notices

naw man fuck it.. you guys rip his team apart and veto my shit.

My only goal is to stay in front of BBC.

What is that suppose to mean?

Bigs03 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I don't think Hanley can be in the deal, I was trying to see how he could do it, I don't think those 3 players are worth Hanley alone.

Do Pod for Hammy quick before Oggy notices

naw man fuck it.. you guys rip his team apart and veto my shit.

My only goal is to stay in front of BBC.

What is that suppose to mean?

It means I am not going to offer any more trade to kings. Cuz after my trade got veto'd I dont care about making a deal with him anymore.

Well I do think that, but 1 for 1 it's legit enough, but in that big trade it gets magnifide

Do it

GolbeZ wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I don't think Hanley can be in the deal, I was trying to see how he could do it, I don't think those 3 players are worth Hanley alone.

Do Pod for Hammy quick before Oggy notices

naw man fuck it.. you guys rip his team apart and veto my shit.

My only goal is to stay in front of BBC.

What is that suppose to mean?

It means I am not going to offer any more trade to kings. Cuz after my trade got veto'd I dont care about making a deal with him anymore.

Well like I said it was nothing personal. I just want the league to remain fair. Hanley could be considered a top 5 player in the league. His inclusion in the trade is what killed it for me.

Bigs03 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I don't think Hanley can be in the deal, I was trying to see how he could do it, I don't think those 3 players are worth Hanley alone.

Do Pod for Hammy quick before Oggy notices

naw man fuck it.. you guys rip his team apart and veto my shit.

My only goal is to stay in front of BBC.

What is that suppose to mean?

It means I am not going to offer any more trade to kings. Cuz after my trade got veto'd I dont care about making a deal with him anymore.

Well like I said it was nothing personal. I just want the league to remain fair. Hanley could be considered a top 5 player in the league. His inclusion in the trade is what killed it for me.

Well agree to disagree .. Because I felt like I presented a strong enough case to pull that trade ..

and now Tim is getting a deal for someone he just picked up of FA... that trade is lopsided.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Do it

I will stick with pods.

Carlos Pena and Grady Sizemore are for sell..

Well actually, Vargas has been doing pretty damn good since early April. Just because people havent caught on yet doesent mean he won't be owned by a lot soon. Being fair, i already have a bunch of closers even after Aardsma and i have only about 1-2 quality SP's.

Vargas brings ERA and WHIP. Two things my pitching lacks.

Good luck, I'm traded out though considering moving Halladay

LOL that this thread is at like 400

I am pretty upset, but I obviously repsect the opinion of the league. I still feel like I stated a decent enough case for the trade, regaurdless of who the players I was getting. Did I feel like I was getting the better end of that deal? Of course I did, you wouldnt make a trade if you didnt believe that you were improving your team. My team being in last place needed the help from Kings team more than anybodys. But seeing LA whoes team is way better than mine improve on every player he sent (I would take zimmerman over konerko) is disheartening. What upset me the most was that trade was seriously accepted and sent through before anyone was really even able to discuss it. Oggy came on and was like WHAT? Now I know that it wouldn't have changed anything with my trade but I would like a rule change regaurding accepting and vetoing trades.

Now i sent another trade to kings (even though I was steamed and said that I wasnt), I sat down and watched some tosh.0 and thought about it.. and before I could get back on to cancel it, it was accepted. And at this point I almost prefer that it gets vetoed. It's not going to change much anyway. I have accepted my team.

GolbeZ wrote:

I am pretty upset, but I obviously repsect the opinion of the league. I still feel like I stated a decent enough case for the trade, regaurdless of who the players I was getting. Did I feel like I was getting the better end of that deal? Of course I did, you wouldnt make a trade if you didnt believe that you were improving your team. My team being in last place needed the help from Kings team more than anybodys. But seeing LA whoes team is way better than mine improve on every player he sent (I would take zimmerman over konerko) is disheartening. What upset me the most was that trade was seriously accepted and sent through before anyone was really even able to discuss it. Oggy came on and was like WHAT? Now I know that it wouldn't have changed anything with my trade but I would like a rule change regaurding accepting and vetoing trades.

Now i sent another trade to kings (even though I was steamed and said that I wasnt), I sat down and watched some tosh.0 and thought about it.. and before I could get back on to cancel it, it was accepted. And at this point I almost prefer that it gets vetoed. It's not going to change much anyway. I have accepted my team.

The trade LA made with Kings was fairly even IMO. Like I said before, Hanley Ramirez is like a top 3 or 5 pick in the draft, IMO you would have to give up a lot to get him. I'm going to put it to a vote on the league page, if it's deemed fair by the majority you can resend the trade and I will put it through. I'm not trying to be unfair here and I've tried to be fair from the get go so I'm not sure why you think a rule change needs to be made. But whatever, everyone can vote on the league page.

Bigs03 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

I am pretty upset, but I obviously repsect the opinion of the league. I still feel like I stated a decent enough case for the trade, regaurdless of who the players I was getting. Did I feel like I was getting the better end of that deal? Of course I did, you wouldnt make a trade if you didnt believe that you were improving your team. My team being in last place needed the help from Kings team more than anybodys. But seeing LA whoes team is way better than mine improve on every player he sent (I would take zimmerman over konerko) is disheartening. What upset me the most was that trade was seriously accepted and sent through before anyone was really even able to discuss it. Oggy came on and was like WHAT? Now I know that it wouldn't have changed anything with my trade but I would like a rule change regaurding accepting and vetoing trades.

Now i sent another trade to kings (even though I was steamed and said that I wasnt), I sat down and watched some tosh.0 and thought about it.. and before I could get back on to cancel it, it was accepted. And at this point I almost prefer that it gets vetoed. It's not going to change much anyway. I have accepted my team.

The trade LA made with Kings was fairly even IMO. Like I said before, Hanley Ramirez is like a top 3 or 5 pick in the draft, IMO you would have to give up a lot to get him. I'm going to put it to a vote on the league page, if it's deemed fair by the majority you can resend the trade and I will put it through. I'm not trying to be unfair here and I've tried to be fair from the get go so I'm not sure why you think a rule change needs to be made. But whatever, everyone can vote on the league page.

naw man I am over that trade .. plus I have already seen what everyones vote is so its cool. I am not really asking for a rule change for voting, you have done a good job.. I guess all I am asking for is the trades to be up a little longer beofre they get pushed through. Whether they get vetoed or not. Like I said before, Oggy didnt even know LA and Kings traded till after it was done. I don't know if he would have made an argument for it, but I feel like he has the right to say something I guess. Hell I barely had time to even see it, I wasnt able to put research into before it was already through.

please take that poll down bigs .. I would rather not get into that again. I have seen what that poll will say..

Put a vote up on my new one.. cuz that trade is bullshit as well.

I dont even know what the hell I am talking about.. I dont care do whatever

but for the love of god take that poll down.

alright I'll take it down. You want this trade vetoed? I'll do it if you want me to.

That was a good trade, Hamilton and Danks will both be better by seasons end

Is it really my turn to defend my trade now LOL????