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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 8:21 pm

Obviously, it's possible he was weighing himself down but the point is guys come in on fight night weighing significantly more than they were at the weigh ins. You hear it all the time that if you weight somebody like Thiago Alves on fight nights, it's more like he would be too heavy to fight at middleweight....Like i've said, i've been able to cut or gain 5 pounds sometimes more in less than an hour. A lot can happen in 24 hours especially if you are the size of Lesnar or Tito.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 8:59 pm

Yeah but not 46 lbs dude. The camera was at a weird angle. Someone had to be pressing on it or he could have been holding a weight from that angle. There is no way someone can gain 46 lbs in six hours. It is not possible. Your stomach would tear or rupture. Not even that little Japanese eating champ can eat that much in 6 hours. I know people can put on alot of weight in 24 hours. That is not what we are talking about. Don't get it twisted up. The point is 46 lbs in 6 hours. Not possible. That is almost certain death for a human.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:12 pm

How much does 6 IV bags weigh?
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:35 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
How much does 6 IV bags weigh?
I would say the are 3-4 lbs a peice. No way possible Tito or anyone could gain 46 lbs in a day! They wouldn't be able to fight the next day if they were alive?
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:40 pm

Thats because they go into a sauna with rubber clothes and run on a treadmill in there trying to sweat all the water weight out they can. Then they starve themselves for about 12-18 hours before weigh ins to get every last bit out before they have to get on the scale. Which is why Tito mentioned in that video an IV to rehydrate. It's faster to rehydrate through the bloodstream.

Cutting and gaining 5lbs is mostly due to waterloss and calorie burning under strenuous physical activity. However it's not so easy as just multiply that. Ultimately the further you go the more calories you burn but at some point there just aren't anymore calories to burn at the same rate, especially when you factor in lactic acid and how quickly or slowly a body gets rid of it. 5lbs in a couple hours doesn't multiply into 45lbs in 9 hours just like that. It actually becomes a health hazard to look to cut/increase weight that way on a consistent basis.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:42 pm

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
How much does 6 IV bags weigh?
I would say the are 3-4 lbs a peice. No way possible Tito or anyone could gain 46 lbs in a day! They wouldn't be able to fight the next day if they were alive?

Lets think this through

Say the 6 IV bags weigh 18 to 24 pounds (your estimate)
Then he drinks a gallon of water/gatorade the weigh 8 to 9 pounds (pretty accurate)
Then you throw in 2 large dinners or pasta, chicken, steak, potatoes, etc and that has to be what? another 10 pounds (no idea here)

So that right there is 36 to 43 pounds. It doesn't sound unrealistic that Tito got hie weight that high if he put all of that into his body.

I'm sure he goes and takes a piss, a dump, and sleeps and all of a sudden that 151 is down to 145.

And then you factor in a differences in scales. I weighed in on my scale at 167 before my weigh in. I got the place and used their scales and weighed 172 point something.


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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:42 pm

It may weigh less or more though depending if it's straight Water or Saline. Because with water intoxication the long and short of it is that there's so much water it heavily dilutes the sodium levels in the body and then the cells open up from lack of sodium only to be flooded by more water.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:45 pm

I doubt the dinners were equal to 10lbs. Have you ever seen the 72 oz steaks? Those things are absolutely massive. I know we're talking pasta in the first meal but still. 10lbs is a major stretch. I'd say it's closer to 4-6lbs for the two dinners combined.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:46 pm

LudoCain wrote:
I doubt the dinners were equal to 10lbs. Have you ever seen the 72 oz steaks? Those things are absolutely massive. I know we're talking pasta in the first meal but still. 10lbs is a major stretch. I'd say it's closer to 4-6lbs for the two dinners combined.

I just see Tito throwing down 2 8oz Filets, a boat load of taters, some of the rye beat soaked in butter, and then maybe a piece of molten chocolate cake. That is easily 3-4 pounds right there and that's not including the pasta.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:51 pm

and 2lbs of Pasta is enough to feed a family of 4-6 people. It'd look to be alot more than what was in his tin container. I still say the food combined rounds to between 4-6lbs at most. So best case scenario he gets 18-24lbs of saline/water through IV, another 8lbs from drinking water/gatorade, and about 4-6lbs from food. Thats between 30-38lbs depending on his scale and whether he pisses or takes a shit anywhere in that time frame.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 10:01 pm

Farmer have you went crazy on me in this thread? Your estimations are way off on the food and Ludo is right about everything. It isn't healthy and it is dangerous to consume all that food on top of drinking all that liquid. That meal that he ate was about 2-3 lbs of food at the most and someone snagged a bit of pasta. Not to mention he is gonna pee out half of what is in the IV bags too. Have you ever drank alot of fluids and been hooked up to an IV bag? I have and was for 3 days straight and pissed about 10 imes a day. No joke. There is no way possible. This shouldn't even be a conversation for real. It is rediculous.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 10:03 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
LudoCain wrote:
I doubt the dinners were equal to 10lbs. Have you ever seen the 72 oz steaks? Those things are absolutely massive. I know we're talking pasta in the first meal but still. 10lbs is a major stretch. I'd say it's closer to 4-6lbs for the two dinners combined.

I just see Tito throwing down 2 8oz Filets, a boat load of taters, some of the rye beat soaked in butter, and then maybe a piece of molten chocolate cake. That is easily 3-4 pounds right there and that's not including the pasta.

I can throw that down and I won't gain more than 2-3 lbs after using the toilet you know.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 3:45 am

I've had to get the drip before in ICU for a few days also. Typical intravenous saline drips for hydration come from 1 liter pouches (about 2 pounds 3 ounces). From my experience that drip takes several hours, about 4, to complete, yet it can be adjusted and varied.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 8:57 am

Ah man. I want cain's gif so bad it hurts. Reem is such a douche
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 6:12 pm

GDPofDRC wrote:
I've had to get the drip before in ICU for a few days also. Typical intravenous saline drips for hydration come from 1 liter pouches (about 2 pounds 3 ounces). From my experience that drip takes several hours, about 4, to complete, yet it can be adjusted and varied.

Good point I didn't even think about that either.
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 13, 2010 3:06 pm

I think the 46 pound gain is a bit exaggereted(an inaccurate scale a probable culprit, plus a bit of clothing), but King's point stands, these dudes put on tons of weight.

And you can be sure tito had pissed every last bit of available water and shit every last bit of solid that was in his body prior to weigh in so his body was absolutely ready to absorb everything he took in post weigh in.

I remember Gatti putting on 17 lbs after weighing in, and he was fighting at either 135 or 140. And that was with the HBO guys weighing him in and you can be sure that scale was accurate. So for the 205ers 35 lbs doesn't sound crazy.

though imo, it's part of the game. Does Mass implement this rule in boxing?
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PostSubject: Re: BS weigh in rule in Mass.   BS weigh in rule in Mass. - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 14, 2010 7:58 am

Whats gay is guys cutting so much weight in hopes of picking on a smaller guy. I dont have a problem with the rule and only extreme weight cutters would have a problem breaking it. BTW Brock dont weigh over 300 pounds on fight night.
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