Interesting read about Fedor potentially leaving SF

so this is why dubai came out of nowhere. Nah just kidding but who knows. nice article la cant wait for the emperor to arrive in the ufc. I hope he walks away from m-1 like mousasi did and works for himself. I hope this has something to do with all the hype from dana lately. fingers crossed

Well, the actual article from Chiapetta is nothing new but still editorial..the blog by "Kid Nate" is a pile of shit with the key words being "fantasy scenarios"...it would not be out of place on sherdog.

For all fantasies, there is still one hard reality that makes UFC a highly unlikely destination: Co-Promotion. It does not look like M-1 has eased up on that one bit, if anything they are showing to be more picky about it..word is, they didnt feel Strikeforce is co-promoting enough..also, leaving Strikeforce is not as easy as our blogger seems to make it. He is subscribing to the idea that M-1 are crooks and will breach contracts and that Fedor is not part of the deal, that SF signed M-1 to 3 fights over one year. Nobody is that stupid, not even tom atencio would make that deal.

I say wait until we have more than "M-1 wants to restructure deal with SF, so no Fedor until then" before we start getting too deep into this. All these articles are just hypothetical and they all end in the extremely hypothetical event that UFC opens up to splitting profits with M-1 on Fedor shows or that M-1 would lower their guard on co-promotion...fat chance on both. It highly more likely that M-1 will reach a new deal with Strikeforce to co-promote on CBS or fighting Barnett in Japan before it's likely that UFC lowers their guard on not co promoting and M-1 lowers their on co-promoting.

I would say it's more likely he'd fight in SF again over the UFC because he's already under contract with them, but the possiblity of him fighting in the UFC gained a little momentum at least.

He has only a couple more fights left on his M-1 conract I believe, how do you know he doesn't good after the big fights he longs and sign with the UFC where outside of Barnett are the best HW fights for him.

And it's obvious it is fantasy senerios, it says so, but I thought there was some valid points in there.

SF is sloppy right now, who knows if he wants to stick with that.

I'm not so sure Strikeforce are the ones being sloppy right now. They have all their HW(Even Overeem for fucks sake) ready to fight in May and the only one slap dicking is Fedor and M-1.

They just gave a Title fight to a guy who just lost to Fedor, and if it wasn't to be Fedor it should have been Werdum, who gives a Title fight to a guy coming off a loss?

I'm still curious on what it is M-1 is actually butthurt about. Its hard to not think that all this coming right after Gegard leaves M-1 and Coker announced Mousasi is signed through 2011 has something to do with it. Maybe they feel SF jacked their fighter and were making deal behind their back.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

They just gave a Title fight to a guy who just lost to Fedor, and if it wasn't to be Fedor it should have been Werdum, who gives a Title fight to a guy coming off a loss?

It's because they are probably holding out Werdum for the chance that Fedor decides to fight around that time or they don't want to eliminate one of their top guys WITHOUT them facing Fedor.

So, it's not really sloppy, i would do the same if i ran an org with my top fighter holding out, a champion who has not defended in over two years but needs to build a face with the american audience and i'm slim on challengers for a guy i only have for 2-3 more fights. It's smart to put Overeem in a matchup with a guy he can destroy style wise but is also recognizable and credible because of his recent fight with Fedor. It helps build towards the eventual matchup and that is more important than the title because of Strikeforce business model which is dependent on interest and ratings.

Strikeforce is too early in their development for so much emphasis to be put on a ranking model like the UFC. Not yet. Most of their champs are newly crowned or just coming back like Overeem and their divisions are currently under construction outside of a few prime contenders. They HAVE to think about what is a more marketable fight on Showtime...Overeem is not going to draw because most don't know who is, but Rogers might because he just fought for 25 million people worldwide(5.5 in the states). Overeem vs. Werdum...not a chance that draws. Until SF builds their brand name to a higher level to where people will tune it just because it's Strikeforce, they have to take marketability in mind when making the card before "how much sense does this make in our overall rankings?". UFC can get away with throwing two no draw names in the main event of a Spike card because people see UFC and check it out. If Strikeforce put on Showtime fights based on rankings and who SHOULD be fighting who right now it would be suicide, because ratings would not do as good and they need that to stay anything more than just the San Jose org because Showtime and CBS will spit them out without ratings like they did ProElite.

I say Fedor holding out and Werdum being the next guy that looks good..milking whatever drawing power The Grim has from the Fedor fight to build Overeem is the smart thing to do. Even though that's not how it's generally done here in the states, you got it a lot in PRIDE.

A good way for a growing Org to establish and legitimize itself, put a 50 year old football player on the main card and give a Title fight to a guy coming off a loss.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

I'm still curious on what it is M-1 is actually butthurt about. Its hard to not think that all this coming right after Gegard leaves M-1 and Coker announced Mousasi is signed through 2011 has something to do with it. Maybe they feel SF jacked their fighter and were making deal behind their back.

Good point. We can't be sure, but that sounds believable for real. Have a plus sign!

Is this even for the title?

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

They just gave a Title fight to a guy who just lost to Fedor, and if it wasn't to be Fedor it should have been Werdum, who gives a Title fight to a guy coming off a loss?

Word is it's not for the title. Which imo, makes it even more sloppy, or at least opens the possibility of a more sloppy scenario if Rogers wins. Your title holder is coming off a loss to a guy that just lost to the guy that everyone thinks should be champ?

Walker, Nagy and Sims, all on the same televised card, and the Heiron fight completely clogging the EA sports website on that same event is also pretty sloppy.

That said, any org growing at the rate of SF, ie leaps and bounds, is expected to have some growing pains, and most of this Fedor to the UFC is mostly UFC fanboy wishful thinking.

Last report was that the title is on the line.

If so that's good news then. Though still sloppy.

I think LA has the right take on this. M-1 has got to be one of the worst management companies in the world. You know the UFC was offering at least 1.5 million and points on PPV sales, bonuses and the right to wear whatever M-1 Global crap he wanted to the cage and they made a weak deal with SF? Bad advertisment.

Well, that squashes a lot but now it kind of makes an Overeem vs. Rogers title fight look ridiculous if Fedor vs. Werdum is on the same card. If it wouldent piss overeem off to the netherlands, i say hold the title up for the winner of Fedor/Werdum and have Overeem/Rogers as a #1 contender fight.

After two and a half years it should be a four man mini tourny for that belt.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Well, that squashes a lot but now it kind of makes an Overeem vs. Rogers title fight look ridiculous if Fedor vs. Werdum is on the same card. If it wouldent piss overeem off to the netherlands, i say hold the title up for the winner of Fedor/Werdum and have Overeem/Rogers as a #1 contender fight.

Yeah if Fedro was still on that card it would be a joke