Former Wolrds strongest man to fight Sylvia

Birdofthad wrote:

I remember seeing Jens Pulver (Sylvia's childrens godfather) before the fight saying how stupid it was of Tim to accept the Mercer fight

he said this is a former heavyweight belt holder, you dont go try and trade with him. Why would you?

I will look for the video it was pretty neat

I remember that video

Damn some people are still so angry with Barnett that Sylvia beating him would mean he isn't a top ten fighter in 2010. How different things are from just a year ago, when Barnett was top five and Sylvia still top ten.

I wouldnt put Timmy in the top 10 even with a win over Barnett either. There are too many good young HWs now.

1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Mir
4. Carwin
5. Nog
6. Cain
7. Grim
8. Overeem
9. JDS
10. Werdum

This is 10 HWs that would still be ahead of him in no real order but the point is even with a Barnett win he isnt cracking top 10, but maybe 13-15 range I would think.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Damn some people are still so angry with Barnett that Sylvia beating him would mean he isn't a top ten fighter in 2010. How different things are from just a year ago, when Barnett was top five and Sylvia still top ten.

Factor in a year ago we didn't have guys like Carwin, Cain, and Santos established quite yet.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Damn some people are still so angry with Barnett that Sylvia beating him would mean he isn't a top ten fighter in 2010. How different things are from just a year ago, when Barnett was top five and Sylvia still top ten.

Factor in a year ago we didn't have guys like Carwin, Cain, and Santos established quite yet.

I am fully aware of that fact. I still think the winner of this fight is at least worthy of a 10 spot with their resumes as established top fighters, over cuspers like Werdum, Rogers or Carwin, and even Arlovski, who hasn't been very active since those two devastating knockouts to Fedor and Rogers.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Damn some people are still so angry with Barnett that Sylvia beating him would mean he isn't a top ten fighter in 2010. How different things are from just a year ago, when Barnett was top five and Sylvia still top ten.

Thats cause Barnett was cheating using roids in his first fight and got caught when he had to take that Fedor Blood test also months back. The dude has done nothing but use PEDS since he came to Affliction and SF. As for Timmeh he just got his butt kicked and looked like a fool since then to most people. So to me if the 12 guy gets beat by the 18-19th guy they don't belong in the top ten.

AMIRITE?

I dont have Timmy top 10, in my latest ranking I had Barnett tied for 10 with Overoid

Birdofthad wrote:

I dont have Timmy top 10, in my latest ranking I had Barnett tied for 10 with Overoid

the roid guys battle it out for tenth place. lol

Pudz via kicking Tim's leg in half.

timthebim wrote:

Has any1 fell off faster than Timmy in this sport or what?

+1 lol

I am gonna go with the guy who knows very little, but is in great shape to pummel Sylvia and defeat him with fist-to-face technique.

I still don't get why a win over Gabriel Gonzaga shoots somebody in the top 10 or even peoples top 5. It's the only win of note Carwin has...i mean really guys. He has done nothing to bump Barnett or move ahead of anybody else in the top 10 and he has not been all that active himself. The guy very well might turn out to be pretty good but as of now, he's not proven shit to even be in the title picture with guys like Brock, Cain and Mir. People act like it's unanimous that he's in the top 10 like "well, there wasnt Shane Carwin before" like Carwin has been ripping through the competition and bumping guys out...excuse me if i snicker at that. He beat some nameless cans after joining the UFC and non top 100 wikipedia red names before untill he beat barely top 20 Gabe and he looked like an unwiped asshole in that fight until he clipped Gabe. The fact that i think Gonzaga could beat him on any given night and anybody who actually watched that fight would think the same speaks volumes of where Shane Carwin really stands in the UFC and overall.

Seriously, the UFC only gave this guy a shot originally because he's already up there in years. He's a big guy that they can attempt to sell as a legitimate physical match for Brock Lesnar even though he's really not. They got a nice highlight package of him knocking out a few toilet scrubbers and thats it. The fact that he's fighting Frank Mir while JDS continues to step down in competition is an absolute joke. dos Santos should have got the fight with Frank Mir and Carwin should be setting up to fight Gilbert Yvel or Ben Rothwell or something because while he's been sitting around waiting for a completley undeserved title match...JDS and Cain Velasquez were building true status and not manufactured status.

Carwin has done enough with a win over Gabe to be HM or maybe crack the top 10 based on expectations...However he is in the bordeline area..not just unanimously inserted in the middle of the top 10...and now ranked ahead of Big Nog and Josh Barnett by some people. Get real.

It's all hype and it will show when he drops off every top 10 when Frank Mir makes him look silly in every phase of MMA...and we'll have a bunch of "it's official....Shane Carwin is overrated" threads and Frank Mir will get virtually no credit for beating him because Carwin would have probably never belonged in the cage with him in the first place. If Carwin wins, well, my point here still stands as in he undeservingly got hot shotted up the rankings and he's just now proving he belongs there...kind of like Lesnar did but i'm going to go out on a limb and say Shane Carwin won't be no Brock Lesnar.

UFC gives Pudz a look after he beats Timmy

kings own just destroyed Shane Carwin hypetrain.

Kings is just a Carwin hater, but I bet he buys into Rogers ironically.

Not true blitz, i have no reason to "hate" Shane Carwin and i don't.

I think Rogers is overrated as well, i don't know how long he'll be in the top 10 but he's fought better competion. He atleast had to face top fighters to earn his slot in the rankings. He beat AA and he went into the second round with Fedor. AA was top 10 when Rogers finished him so by laws of top 10 rankings, you atleast get the spot of the person you beat. He did better against Fedor than anybody has for a long time. Am i saying that Carwin couldent do that or that Rogers is better? not really, but rankings are based on what you've done...not what they could do. Carwin may be able to do a lot, but so far he has not done shit.

Fact is, Rogers dispatched top 10 fighter in 22 seconds and fought the #1 fighter. Like it or not, he has earned his top 10 ranking...most people put him there reluctantly but you can't deny that Rogers has fought two of the best, including the best over the past year and came out of both of those fights, even a loss to Fedor with more respect than he had going in. Sherdog actually moved him up in the ranks after he lost. AA was probably a fluke but i thought Gonzaga looked to be the better between him and Carwin until he got clipped, so theres that.

Gonzaga is not a top 10 fighter, maybe not even top 15 and not to mention that was a year ago. So couple in the fact that A) Carwin has hardly fought anybody B) He has been inactive...just makes no sense.

All signs point to Carwin being a good fighter, i'm not denying that but i'm denying his legitimacy in the discussion with Brock, Mir, Cain and Nogueria and his gift wrapped top 10 ranking.

blitz huh, +1 for that, also for a solid reply

I'm guilty of this as well of ranking guys based on what they could do rather than what they done. It might of been the ranking before the last one i did where i ranked Overeem #10 even though he has not really done anything to earn that slot but nobody is shooting him past Josh Barnett or Big Nog for fucks sake..#9 and #10 are kind of a crap shoot anyway. Like i said, Carwin is #9 or #10 if in at all based on his record in strengh of competition IMO.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Kings is just a Carwin hater, but I bet he buys into Rogers ironically.

Yo how is a dose of complete well rounded logic on Carwin "hate" and how does that relate to your own hate of Rogers?

Officials from KSW, a promotion based in Pudzianowski's native Poland, today announced the 33-year-old returns at KSW XIII on may 7th, though an opponent has not been revealed. You can bank that it won't be Tim.