Grade the Miami event.

A totally uneven event. 2 excellent fights on paper that 100% panned out. 2 complete jokes on paper, featuring 2 flabby dudes who have no business being on TV, that lived down to the hype. A onesided but decent chick fight. And a legit fight, broadcast over the internet which overwhelms EA's website so that a)you didn't see it, or b) if you did see it was apparently broken down and basically unwatchable. I didn't see it personally

I'm in the c to c+ range.

I didn't really enjoy the chick fight. I'm just not into manly chicks fighting.

The Walker fight was ok. Not bad, but not great. The commentary during the fight on the other hand made me want to pull the trigger and end it all.

Diaz was great. I can't stand the guy, but his fights are fun to watch.

Manhoef and Lawler was awesome.

Lashley's was decent too. He needs a bigger test ASAP.

Overall it was a very very good free card once again by Strikeforce.

B+

Both title fights were awesome.

Lashley defeated a vet handily and is now ready for a real fight.

Walker was all class and looked great all things considered.

Lawler had me jumping off the couch like a madman ala Scott Smith fights.

The only issue was the horrific time dealing with that stream and the commentary during the Walker fight getting out of hand.

you guys are really underplaying the total lack of physical conditioning on the part of Sims and Nagy.

Those guys really hurt the card imo.


And clearly the Diaz and Lawler fights were A quality fights.

C-

I was not overly impressed, but it was entertaining for an hour and a half.

captain organic wrote:

you guys are really underplaying the total lack of physical conditioning on the part of Sims and Nagy.

Those guys really hurt the card imo.


And clearly the Diaz and Lawler fights were A quality fights.

You're clearly disabled if you can't understand why both of those fights were they way they were. Sims always looks like that, first off, and second he took the fight in a weeks notice.

Walker was making his MMA debut at 47. Get the fuck over yourself kiddo, please.

I will concede that amongst the dumbfucks of the world that had to have hurt the card...

Jesus! I have to agree with Wolf three times in one day? He is right though and you are clearly mistaken if you don't think that those fights were designed to enhance certain images, instead of making the best fights possible. That is Why Joe Silva rules.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

captain organic wrote:

you guys are really underplaying the total lack of physical conditioning on the part of Sims and Nagy.

Those guys really hurt the card imo.


And clearly the Diaz and Lawler fights were A quality fights.

You're clearly disabled if you can't understand why both of those fights were they way they were. Sims always looks like that, first off, and second he took the fight in a weeks notice.

Walker was making his MMA debut at 47. Get the fuck over yourself kiddo, please.

I will concede that amongst the dumbfucks of the world that had to have hurt the card...

One can understand why Walker and Lashley were given cans without giving SF a pass for it. You seem to be grading the event as if we are righting it off as a low level card, a minor league event. I'm grading it as if SF is a major player in MMA. The card had 2 fights which suggest it is a major player, and then 2 fights which screamed NAAFS.

Cap? R U smoking something I can't get here in Alabama? HW is a fucking Athlete, not a major player (or his opponent) in MMA. Neither is Lashley, that is why he is in SF, not the UFC. I would rather have watched, barring the serious fuck up that EA Sports did, the Jay vs. Joe match. At least I realize that they know what the fuck they are doing. Look, Lashley may pan out, but HW would get beaten to death by Kimbo, and we all know what kind of esteem we all hold him in.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Cap? R U smoking something I can't get here in Alabama? HW is a fucking Athlete, not a major player (or his opponent) in MMA. Neither is Lashley, that is why he is in SF, not the UFC. I would rather have watched, barring the serious fuck up that EA Sports did, the Jay vs. Joe match. At least I realize that they know what the fuck they are doing. Look, Lashley may pan out, but HW would get beaten to death by Kimbo, and we all know what kind of esteem we all hold him in.

So andrew has layed down the worst example of MMA math in NP history, and now he's laying down the biggest unintended understatement in NP history. Both in the same day. Well done.

Captian. You're being short sighted and simple minded. Strikeforce is a major player, but they haven't arrived yet. They are no where near the UFC's level in name recognition or profile yet. Therefore, they clearly get passes, if not applauded, for doing things like this at an early stage to build up notoriety and to get noticed on ESPN.

There had to have been thousands of people who watched last night for Lashley and Walker who didn't know much about MMA, saw the dramatics of the Diaz and Lawler wins, and will be coming back for more.

In any event, Nagy didn't look out of shape any more than Kendall Grove or Bandon Vera does really.

You're just 100% wrong. It's ok to be totally and utterly incorrect sometimes in life.

I gave the card an A. It did what they needed it to do but on the other hand its time now to build off of this. Lashley definitely needs to step up in competition and Nick needs a big name opponent his next fight also I think. I thought the Hershel fight was a joke and no 1 will change my mind on that but the rest of the card was pretty good. I hope Wes Simms retires though. he is terrible anymore.

As far as entertainment value which is what I watch for I would have to give it an A because I thoroughly enjoyed every match up and there wasnt any boring matches IMO. I was glued to my PC & projector for the entire on air show.

B or B-
Lawler vs Manhoef, Diaz, and Cyborg Soenen fights were all good fun fights
Walker and Lashley we got what we expected
All in all good free card

I thought it was very good, but i also like womens MMA so obviously the Cyborg-Coenen fight helped the show for me while it did not for others.

3 good fights...and it was fun watching Sims and Nagy get their asses beat.

I'm just pissed Manhoef lost. Nothing against Lawler but damn...shitty way to lose.

A+ to the fighters

C- to the promotion

All these C-'s are way the fuck out of line. Production was great. Commentary average for an MMA event. Two interesting storyline fighters.

B. Not bad. Wasn't great. All the UFC homers that don't think it was very good need to look at some of the recent UFC PPVs. SF puts on good cards.

B

The only thing I didnt really like was the 2 finishes for Walker and Cyborg. That was kinda weak. But I think that also had a lot to do with elbows being illegal.

B

Coenen gave Cyborg the best fight she's had in awhile. I'd like to see Coenen and Carano next.

I understand the Herschel Walker fight from SF's perspective but please, let's not do that again.

Lawler was fucking awesome. That was vintage Scott Smith.

Lashley definitely needs a jump in competition. If I ever see Wes Sims in a cage again it will be to soon.

Nick Diaz was extremely impressive. I thought Z would at least give him a good fight but Diaz clearly outclassed him.

All in all I thought it was a very good card. Take the Walker fight off and put Hieron/Diesel on the card and it would be an A.

B+
I enjoyed it very much. I was hoping the bitches fight would be more competitive but Cyborg is a beast. The Lawler vs Melvin fight was pretty sweet, Robbie was getting his ass kicked and turned that fight around with 1 punch. Diaz looked great and survied some nice shots and turned it on. I thought both Lashley and Walker looked good for how new they are to the sport.

I give it an F for Dream, they sent 2 guys over thinking they were going to destroy their opponents but their fighters got beat bad.

C +
A decent show, nothing special. Pales in comparison to some of the other recent SF shows though.