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http://mmajunkie.com/news/17544/junior-dos-santos-vs-gabriel-gonzaga-co-headlines-march-21-ufc-on-versus-event.mma
"A heavyweight bout between rising prospect Junior Dos Santos (10-1 MMA, 4-0 UFC) and perennial contender Gabriel Gonzaga (11-4 MMA, 7-3 UFC) is set for the March 21 "UFC on Versus 1: Vera vs. Jones" card. "
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 3:41 pm

Thats gonna be a hell of a card for free. I wonder if Spike is mad about that.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 3:48 pm

thats a main event imo atleast for that card
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 3:57 pm

Wanted to see this fight the first time around and still want to see it now. Good card shaping up there
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That is a great fight and VS should be crazy happy about this.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 4:14 pm

Main Card

* Light Heavyweight bout: Brandon Vera vs. Jon Jones
* Heavyweight bout: Junior dos Santos vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
* Welterweight bout: Anthony Johnson vs. John Howard

Preliminary Card

* Light heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 4:16 pm

Finally a stiff test for JDS, we should learn a lot about him in this fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 4:22 pm

Bigs03 wrote:
Finally a stiff test for JDS, we should learn a lot about him in this fight.

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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 4:39 pm

If Dos Santos wins this you got to give him a title shot IMO. 5 straight wins in the UFC, the first 4 came in impressive fassion. I don't care how he beats Gabe, he wins he needs a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 4:44 pm

Yeah it would be awfully tough to justify Carwin waiting for a title shot with that resume while JDS goes through Werdum, CroCop, Struve, Yvel, and Gonzaga and doesn't. He will still need to win another fight though
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Farmer1906 wrote:
Main Card

* Light Heavyweight bout: Brandon Vera vs. Jon Jones
* Heavyweight bout: Junior dos Santos vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
* Welterweight bout: Anthony Johnson vs. John Howard

Preliminary Card

* Light heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Vladimir Matyushenko

Sherk vs. Guida has been rumored as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 5:22 pm

Ya, if JDS beats Gonzaga he matches Carwin's best win and has several others worth more than Carwin's record too.

JDS should win this but if he doesn't the UFC will regret giving Gonzaga, who is a journeymen in most people's eyes, a chance to halt the rise of their young gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 6:24 pm

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Ya, if JDS beats Gonzaga he matches Carwin's best win and has several others worth more than Carwin's record too.

JDS should win this but if he doesn't the UFC will regret giving Gonzaga, who is a journeymen in most people's eyes, a chance to halt the rise of their young gun.

You can't baby a young up and comer forever. JDS has 3 solid wins and it is time to take the next step.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Ya, if JDS beats Gonzaga he matches Carwin's best win and has several others worth more than Carwin's record too.

JDS should win this but if he doesn't the UFC will regret giving Gonzaga, who is a journeymen in most people's eyes, a chance to halt the rise of their young gun.

You can't baby a young up and comer forever. JDS has 3 solid wins and it is time to take the next step.

I think you can justify JDS having a title shot right now, without fighting Gabe. Not sure how much of a step up he is from Werdum and CC. IMO JDS has not been babied in any way.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Ya, if JDS beats Gonzaga he matches Carwin's best win and has several others worth more than Carwin's record too.

JDS should win this but if he doesn't the UFC will regret giving Gonzaga, who is a journeymen in most people's eyes, a chance to halt the rise of their young gun.

You can't baby a young up and comer forever. JDS has 3 solid wins and it is time to take the next step.

I totally agree, he's ready for a big fight and this is it.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 6:43 pm

how has JDS been babied? Everyone he has faced is dangerous. He has faced pretty solid competion IMO.
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Farmer1906 wrote:
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Ya, if JDS beats Gonzaga he matches Carwin's best win and has several others worth more than Carwin's record too.

JDS should win this but if he doesn't the UFC will regret giving Gonzaga, who is a journeymen in most people's eyes, a chance to halt the rise of their young gun.

You can't baby a young up and comer forever. JDS has 3 solid wins and it is time to take the next step.

I think you can justify JDS having a title shot right now, without fighting Gabe. Not sure how much of a step up he is from Werdum and CC. IMO JDS has not been babied in any way.

Good point, Werdum is better than anyone he's faced, but JDS is a good match up because he's so good standing while Werdum isn't. GG is a nice well rounded experienced fighter that isn't going to overlook JDS. JDS is very very very close to a title shot in my eyes.
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how has JDS been babied? Everyone he has faced is dangerous. He has faced pretty solid competion IMO.

He hasn't really been babied but he hasn't fought any top contendors either. He hasn't fought Mir, Kongo, Gonzaga, Cain, Nog, Carwin, or even Herring. Without beating any of those guys I don't know how you can really justify giving him a title shot. At least now he'll get to fight Gonzaga, that's a logical next step for him anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS   Dos Santos vs Gonzaga co-headline on VS EmptyWed Jan 13, 2010 6:55 pm

He faced the biggest test of his UFC career by far in his first fight. I mean, this is a good fight and all but doesn't make a lot of sense ranking wise. He has already had big fights. Top ten opponents from now on please.
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OUSOONERSOU wrote:
how has JDS been babied? Everyone he has faced is dangerous. He has faced pretty solid competion IMO.

He hasn't really been babied but he hasn't fought any top contendors either. He hasn't fought Mir, Kongo, Gonzaga, Cain, Nog, Carwin, or even Herring. Without beating any of those guys I don't know how you can really justify giving him a title shot. At least now he'll get to fight Gonzaga, that's a logical next step for him anyway.

I consider Werdum and CC atleast on par with Herring and even Gonzaga himself. But I would say his road in the UFC has been harder then Carwins. Carwin also never fought a top guy like Kongo, Mir, Cain and Nog. I know he was suppose to before everything fell apart but still you think he is worthy of mentioning with "top guys" but IMO JDS is every bit as impressive.
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Bigs didn't he flatten a number 1 contender who was in a win and in title situation, who is still on a lot of top ten lists? A guy who around the same time also stopped Gonzaga and Vera. Gonzaga is good, but his only real top ten win was CC, who JDS has also just beat.

I suppose though that this fight is worthwhile from a ground game perspective. Gonzaga if he can make it to the ground should test where he is there. He hasn't faced a lot of stiff competition on the ground yet.
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Can people stop calling Herring a top guy, what has he done besides scrape past Kongo is a fight he by rights should have lost, get run over by a Brock who still didn't know how to fight, get totally dominated by Nog worse than he had in his prior fights with him outside the one knockdown that didn't even rock Nog as bad as everyone thinks, and lose to a Jake O'brien who had to drop out of the weight class and still got released by the UFC.

Heath Herring is a joke at this point. Not even top 25 anymore.
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sounds like a great card, Spike has got to be pissed
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Pretty good fight, doesn't make sense in terms of the pecking order, but still ok, great card on Vs.
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Great fight! I think JDS wins by ko. Great test for JDS right now.
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