Dana already calling BJ

Yeah man they have string wrestling, it's the newest thing

Bigs03 wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Oh now I got to look it up but I could've sworn I've seen Nick beat someone(not by breakin an arm though) and flip everyone off.

Anyway was it that uncalled for? I'm a firm believer that if your caught in a sub and your to proud to tap, that's your own damn fault for not tapping. And the finger? Depends on the smack that was talked before hand. You are right on the money about those pants lol wtf?

The pants are his thing, definitely a little fruity but he's a badass fighter so I can live with it.

You're probably confusing Nick with Nate who landed a triangle on I think Pellegrino? and gave the crowd the double bird.

Nate flipped off Pellegrino in that fight when he caught him in the triangle. Kurt was talking mad shit to Nate, was glad to see him lose that one.

It will be announced soon but Penn's next fight is against Edgar.

Dana probably contacted Penn and Florian about Gomi.


Yea why was Aoki so mad? Never seen him like that and I've seen Nick use the fingers lots of times too dont know if it was in the UFC though.

Edgar deserves it IMO, more so than the last 2 guys that got it, tough fight for him but ....

Primetyme199 wrote:

It will be announced soon but Penn's next fight is against Edgar.

Ya, that's what I thought. Maynard trainers when asked if he would fight Penn after Diaz said Gray needs alot more work yet and BJ would be a tough matchup.

I for one want to see Maynard get a few more fights and another year even of training before he goes after Penn. Edgar is a nice lamb.

MMAEYES wrote:

Ok I give up I don't know what I'm doing wrong but for those who need proof just go to graciefighter.com and it's right in there pics. Nick standing flipping the bird with both hands over a guy layed out can't tell who it is cause you can only see his legs.


Also I agree with LA Aoki is sweet on the ground but BJ would kick his ass

It's against Thomas Denny.

ram_escandon wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Ok I give up I don't know what I'm doing wrong but for those who need proof just go to graciefighter.com and it's right in there pics. Nick standing flipping the bird with both hands over a guy layed out can't tell who it is cause you can only see his legs.


Also I agree with LA Aoki is sweet on the ground but BJ would kick his ass

It's against Thomas Denny.

Thanks

Aoki vs Diaz would be a nice fight. Diaz would pitter patter until it got to the ground, then his BJJ would be put into perspective along with his arm into a sling.

Maynard recently

When you’ve won six fights in a row in the UFC lightweight division, it’s difficult not to be earmarked as the next title contender.

Gray Maynard knows there are no guarantees, though. The former Michigan State wrestling champion faces Nate Diaz this Monday at UFC Fight Night 20 in Fairfax, Va., in a rematch of their early 2007 bout on “The Ultimate Fighter 5.” And the pragmatic lightweight said a win won’t necessarily translate into a title shot against B.J. Penn.

“I don’t really know what (the promotion’s) talking about, but I got to get past Nate,” Maynard told the Sherdog Radio Network’s “Savage Dog” show on Monday. “There’s a lot of guys who are probably like, ‘Yeah, I’m close to a title shot,’ so I’m just one of those guys I guess.”

The Xtreme Couture product said he’s progressed much further than the green, one-dimensional plodder Diaz submitted in the second round on the Spike TV reality series. After his June 2007 “Ultimate Fighter” finale bout against castmate Rob Emerson was ruled a no contest due to a rare double knockout, the steadily climbing Maynard has fired off victories against Jim Miller, Roger Huerta and current contender Frankie Edgar. The wrestling purebred has developed his striking and ground skills with each outing.

“We both have changed a lot,” said Maynard of Diaz. “I was pretty green. Obviously he’s a tricky guy, so I’ve got to be careful of the chokes and everything else. He’s got good jits. He’s long. He’s a lefty, but it seems like every fighter I go up against is a lefty. What is up with all these leftys?”

The 30-year-old fighter said he isn’t complaining, however. His camps over the last two years have centered around preparing to fight southpaws. For this latest camp, Maynard enlisted jiu-jitsu strength Evan Dunham, also on Monday card’s against Efrain Escudero; wrestler L.C. Davis and the usual Xtreme Couture crew that includes Mike Pyle, Jay Hieron and Tyson Griffin (prior to his December injury.)

Still, at the end of Maynard’s road lies Penn, who devastated challenger Diego Sanchez over five rounds at UFC 107 last December in Memphis, Tenn., and shows little sign of being stopped anytime soon.

“B.J. went up against Diego and he looked good,” said Maynard. “I think Diego went up against a couple of guys, Joe ‘Daddy’ (Stevenson) and Clay (Guida) -- I think that was one of Joe’s worst (fights). He didn’t look too good. Joe and Clay had a tough time with a lefty (in Diego), whereas Penn, he knew what to do and it was a stun to (Diego). He was like, ‘Wow, this guy’s hitting me clean.’

“I think that choosing Diego to go up against Penn was more about what’s going to get the most in sales, which you can’t blame them for that,” Maynard continued. “This is about the money. I think there was a couple of guys that could have done maybe a little bit more.”

When asked who some of those challengers could have been, Maynard’s list includes the usual suspects: Edgar, himself, and Kenny Florian, who unsuccessfully battled Penn to a fourth-round submission loss at UFC 101 last August.

A skill Maynard hasn’t had to learn over the last few years is patience. The NCAA Div. I All-American has that in abundance, which is why he hasn’t questioned the UFC’s matchmaking decisions in terms of his own assignments.

“I don’t know if I got passed over (instead of Sanchez),” said Maynard. “It’s a business choice, a smart business choice because it sold tickets. That’s the name of the game. I know that. I’m not dumb. You do what you got to do. I don’t get my feelings hurt about that stuff.”

If Diaz becomes the wrestler’s seventh straight following Monday, Maynard could very well secure a date with an uber-talented Hawaiian who leads the division in virtually all facets of the game. Still, Maynard would be yet another longshot in a winding road of past challengers.

“That’s why it would be such a fun fight,” said Maynard. “You’ve got nothing to lose. You can just let it all hang out. He’s the guy that everybody’s like ‘He’s unbeatable’ and he’s this and he talks like he’s got everything together and it was just because he wasn’t trying (before). Well, then let’s give some guys a shot then and let’s see what happens.”

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Aoki vs Diaz would be a nice fight. Diaz would pitter patter until it got to the ground, then his BJJ would be put into perspective along with his arm into a sling.

you're talking about Nate i presume?

Nick or Nate. I am really riding Aoki's nuts at this stage man, Nick probably wouldn't be as manhandled as Hirota was but don't tell me that right now, k?

Nick would wreck Aoki, think about how much bigger he is and how much better of a striker he is. Nick is a Gracie Black Belt dont forget. He doesn't get subbed bu Aoki.

Ya I secretly know that, but for now, war Aoki ripping his arm off.

oggy420 wrote:

Nick would wreck Aoki, think about how much bigger he is and how much better of a striker he is. Nick is a Gracie Black Belt dont forget. He doesn't get subbed bu Aoki.

Striking advantages are almost irrelevant against Aoki, he's going to get the fight to the ground one way or another rather quickly. It would be a war on the ground between these two but I think Aoki wins.

Bigs03 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

Nick would wreck Aoki, think about how much bigger he is and how much better of a striker he is. Nick is a Gracie Black Belt dont forget. He doesn't get subbed bu Aoki.

Striking advantages are almost irrelevant against Aoki, he's going to get the fight to the ground one way or another rather quickly. It would be a war on the ground between these two but I think Aoki wins.

Well it might be irrelevant in Japan, but I see it being a bit more relevant here in the states.

captain organic wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

Nick would wreck Aoki, think about how much bigger he is and how much better of a striker he is. Nick is a Gracie Black Belt dont forget. He doesn't get subbed bu Aoki.

Striking advantages are almost irrelevant against Aoki, he's going to get the fight to the ground one way or another rather quickly. It would be a war on the ground between these two but I think Aoki wins.

Well it might be irrelevant in Japan, but I see it being a bit more relevant here in the states.

Why? When the cage door closes it will still be a fight. It's not like Diaz has one punch KO power so even if Aoki has to eat a punch of two to get it to the ground he can. It almost always comes down to ground fighting against Aoki.

Bigs03 wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

Nick would wreck Aoki, think about how much bigger he is and how much better of a striker he is. Nick is a Gracie Black Belt dont forget. He doesn't get subbed bu Aoki.

Striking advantages are almost irrelevant against Aoki, he's going to get the fight to the ground one way or another rather quickly. It would be a war on the ground between these two but I think Aoki wins.

Well it might be irrelevant in Japan, but I see it being a bit more relevant here in the states.

Why? When the cage door closes it will still be a fight. It's not like Diaz has one punch KO power so even if Aoki has to eat a punch of two to get it to the ground he can. It almost always comes down to ground fighting against Aoki.

I wasn't speaking specifically of Nick(I see alot of the 155 wrestlers being able to keep the fight standing), but in Nick's(and Wolf was really talking about the 155 Nate) case, a guy who fights successfully at 180, a guy with a ton of length to keep distance and a guy whose grappling is good enough to fend off Aoki, I think he would handle Aoki pretty easily.

Yeah I don't know... The Diaz brothers are Gracie Graduates here. I'm not saying Aoki's game is for shit because of that, but I don't see it being quite so easy. Especially since Nate likes being on his back and has finished plenty of fights from the guard or half guard via sneaky sub technique. Aoki wouldn't be fighting someone in Nate or Nick Diaz who would let him hold thier arm behind thier back for almost three minutes without any resistance.

as far as standing goes. Aoki wouldn't have quite as much luck I don't think against some of the larger fighters in the UFC's lightweight division like Stevenson or Sanchez, or even Guida may give him problems.

In an MMA fight, Nick Diaz would defeat Aoki. Maybe not very easily, but he would still win. Nate against Aoki would be a better matchup. In a BJJ competetion, Aoki would probably smoke both of them, though.

Straight mat grappling yeah your probably right. It would be a challenge though, both those guys know their shit.

LudoCain wrote:

Straight mat grappling yeah your probably right. It would be a challenge though, both those guys know their shit.

Yeah. Is it just me, or is Nate's BJJ way better than Nick's?

Nate showcases it more.

Has anyone seen Aoki in a grappling tourney before? I can't say I have. I wonder what he'd do in ADCC.

I think his is more MMA designed, Nicks seems like he uses it mainly as a way to get back to the feet. He uses subs if he's in trouble of if the opportunity is obvious but for the most part he seems to like to stand up more than Nate does. Nate likes to jab jab jab and frustrate someone until they do shoot so he can pull off something tricky. Both pretty good though.