MMA HOF and UFC HOF

This is UFC's HOF:
Fighter ----- Date of Induction
Royce Gracie November 21, 2003 (UFC 45)
Ken Shamrock November 21, 2003 (UFC 45)
Dan Severn April 16, 2005 (UFC 52)
Randy Couture June 24, 2006 (The Ultimate Fighter: Team Ortiz vs. Team Shamrock Finale)
Mark Coleman March 1, 2008 (UFC 82)
Chuck Liddell July 11, 2009 (UFC 100)
Charles Lewis, Jr. July 11, 2009 (UFC 100)
Matt Hughes May 29, 2010 (UFC 114)
Tito Ortiz July 7, 2012 (UFC 148)
Forrest Griffin July 6, 2013 (UFC 162)
Stephan Bonnar July 6, 2013 (UFC 162)

Using this as a foundation what does your personal MMA HOF look like?  Also what does you overall MMA HOF look like.  Use any selection criteria you want and feel free to explain how you apply it.

I'd Start like this for an MMA HOF, criteria = being good:

Royce Gracie	Tito Ortiz	Kiyoshi Tamura	Tatsuya Kawajiri
Ken Shamrock	Guy Mezger	Fedor Emelianenko	Georges St. Pierre
Dan Severn	Igor Vovchanchyn	Josh Barnett	Rich Franklin
Oleg Taktarov	Kazushi Sakuraba	Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira	Mauricio Rua
Don Frye	Pat Miletich	Caol Uno	Gilbert Melendez
Mark Coleman	Dan Henderson	Takanori Gomi	Urijah Faber
Masakatsu Funaki	Chuck Liddell	Quinton Jackson	Lyoto Machida
Bas Rutten	Evan Tanner	Anderson Silva	Hayato Sakurai
Frank Shamrock	Yuki Kondo	Vitor Ribeiro	Nori Yamamoto
Vitor Belfort	Jens Pulver	Mirko Filipovic
Randy Couture	Matt Hughes	Frank Mir

No BJ Penn?

timthebim wrote:

No BJ Penn?

Good eye.  I did type him in but I must have deleted it when I transferred it over. 


BJ Penn.

I think the minimum is you have to have held either a UFC or Pride belt or won a tournament pre title days.

Why?  That seems like unneeded narrowing of the pool.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Why?  That seems like unneeded narrowing of the pool.

i think freak finds these discussions easier if all trace of subjectivity is removed from them.

half the fun of the hall of fame is arguing about why your guy should be in instead of the next blokes guy.

Yeah hell with the title stuff, there are great fighters who weren't necessarly champs.

The HOF should mean something. There would still be subjectivity. Tim Sylvia still wouldn't get in.

I wouldn't put anyone in that was still actively fighting. For me they'd have to be retired for over a year.

A few years to me. Kind of like the other major sports.

I'd normally agree except for two reasons: Professional MMA as we know it is very young and the active guys I've listed are in no possible way going to erase what I consider to already be long established HoF credentials.

Agree with that.