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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:59 pm | |
| Former President George W. Bush defended President Obama from criticism levied against him and the NSA surveillance operation Bush acknowledges he began. Via Yahoo! News:
"I put the program in place to protect the country, and one of the certainties is civil liberties were guaranteed," Bush said... "I think there needs to be a balance [between security and privacy] and as the president described, there is a proper balance." Bush also said Edward Snowden, who leaked the information, “damaged the country” and declined to criticize Obama, saying he didn’t “need to make it harder” for Obama to do “a hard job.” Bush’s ownership of the NSA program flies in the face of liberal attempts to differentiate between Obama era and Bush era spying. Writing in the Daily Beast, Geoffrey Stone, a law professor at the University of Chicago argues:
There is a crucial difference between the Obama administration’s phone call data-mining program, which is constitutional under current law, and the Bush administration’s NSA surveillance program, which was clearly unconstitutional. Unlike the Obama program, which is limited to obtaining information about phone calls made and received from telephone companies, the Bush program authorized the government to wiretap private phone conversations. From a constitutional perspective, the difference is critical, and it is unfortunate that President Obama has not done a better job of explaining the distinction, and why his administration’s program does not violate the constitutional “right of privacy.” Bush will be happy to hear it.
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| | | Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:45 pm | |
| so bush who you go on record of saying is an idiot moron defends your golden boy hmmmm | |
| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:12 pm | |
| Bush was a golden boy idiot
What i am pointing out is the republican rage over the NSA, then BUSH comes out and says yo, I started that program remember when i got caught in 2002 wiretapping 50,000,000 people????? | |
| | | Cu Bu Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:12 am | |
| lol good job ass hat, you proved both are not for the people next please | |
| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:16 am | |
| bird, you know full well it's not just republicans raging about the NSA. | |
| | | Cu Bu Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:01 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- Bush was a golden boy idiot
What i am pointing out is the republican rage over the NSA, then BUSH comes out and says yo, I started that program remember when i got caught in 2002 wiretapping 50,000,000 people????? so are you for or against what bush and obama are doing? | |
| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:09 pm | |
| See here's the difference between the two
Bush had no oversight hearings and the supreme court ruled his version of te NSA was unconstitutional Obama placed an oversight committee and gaine the approval of the supreme court
It wasn't legal when bush did it although I believe the NSA is necessary( it would have led to the capture of Hani Hanjpur prior to 9-11 of It had been in place). Obama was smart to continue. The program but making ok in the eyes of the supreme court | |
| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:10 pm | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- bird, you know full well it's not just republicans raging about the NSA.
Guess you need to tea the polls Initially 45-50 % of republicans said this was a huge scandal for Obama After McCain and bush came out now only 23% view it as a scandal with Obama acting wrongfully I wonder why | |
| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:42 pm | |
| some reading for ya Under the Bush administration, the NSA came under fire after it was revealed that the agency was tapping domestic phone calls without a court order. By contrast, the Obama administration received the authority to conduct its surveillance from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, according to reports. In another distinction, the NSA under Bush was said to monitor the content of the communications it was intercepting — a level of detail the Obama administration has reportedly not sought in its blanket sweeps. Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/304753-hoyer-draws-distinction-between-bush- | |
| | | Cu Bu Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:14 pm | |
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| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bush Defends Obama, NSA Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:52 am | |
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