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PostSubject: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 12:53 pm

All at their peaks-

1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
2. JDS vs CroCop
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 12:57 pm

1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
2. JDS vs CroCop
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155

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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 1:06 pm

Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
JDS vs CroCop
Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 4:48 pm


All at their peaks-

1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar brock gets td gnp
2. JDS vs CroCop cro cop can not keep jds in KB range and gets melted on the inside
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell Machida doesnt get caught up in counter game chuck gets caugt
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen rich all day in KB match
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155 bj controls boxing and gets position on ground
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 7:44 pm

Not taking anything away from CroCop but I feel like everyone is cashing out on JDS too soon. He looked like shit against Cain, but Cain is a beast and JDS wasn't himself. I have JDS taking the title back soon. Also feel like JDS beats CroCop but it would be a good one.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 8:15 pm

1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
2. JDS vs CroCop
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155

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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 8:16 pm

jewzilla wrote:
Not taking anything away from CroCop but I feel like everyone is cashing out on JDS too soon. He looked like shit against Cain, but Cain is a beast and JDS wasn't himself. I have JDS taking the title back soon. Also feel like JDS beats CroCop but it would be a good one.

we're talking at their peak...a shot CroCop tagged JDS plenty.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 8:28 pm

jewzilla wrote:
Not taking anything away from CroCop but I feel like everyone is cashing out on JDS too soon. He looked like shit against Cain, but Cain is a beast and JDS wasn't himself. I have JDS taking the title back soon. Also feel like JDS beats CroCop but it would be a good one.

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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 9:49 pm

Tim Sylvia at his peak gets way too much hate. I just re-watched his fight with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira yesterday and until he got caught he was dominating easily. I think he could give Brock a tough fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySat Apr 06, 2013 10:04 pm

freakzilla wrote:
Tim Sylvia at his peak gets way too much hate. I just re-watched his fight with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira yesterday and until he got caught he was dominating easily. I think he could give Brock a tough fight.

Tim didn't have to worry about Nogueira shooting on him or having a longer reach than he did.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 12:38 am

CroCop would've landed on JDS but he also hated guys who put pressure on him and got in his face. That would've been interesting in their primes
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 1:18 am

freakzilla wrote:
All at their peaks-

1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
2. JDS vs CroCop
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155
1 who cares but ill say Brock.
2 we say JDS v cc even if it wasn't his prime. JDS still easily.
3 chuck wrecks everyone in his prime.
4 Sonnen styles gives rich issues.
5 Aldo smashes penn. he's too quick.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 5:10 pm

Prime Chuck couldn't even hack it in PRIDE.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 9:45 pm

Ali* wrote:
Prime Chuck couldn't even hack it in PRIDE.

Bad match up vs Page
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 10:21 pm

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Prime Chuck couldn't even hack it in PRIDE.

Styles make fights. Rampage is just a stylistic nightmare for Chuck. On the other hand a prime Chuck has the right style to beat a prime Wand if he made it to the finals.

People just forget how good Chuck really was...he fought better competition than Wand ever did in Pride.

Prime Liddell top wins:

Monson
Randleman
Mezger
Bustemante
Suloev
Belfort
Overeem
Tito x2
Randy x2
Babalu X2
Horn

Prime Wand top wins:

Hendo
Rampage x2
Saku x2
Arona
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptySun Apr 07, 2013 10:40 pm

i disagree...he didnt fight better competition overall. At LHW he has more big wins but as far as who they fought overall...Wanderlei had his hands full...Wanderlei fought CroCop twice as well and fought a lot of HW's who were very strong at the time like Fujita and Mark Hunt. You can't forget Yoshida was very formidible at the time. I disagree with the fought better competition that Wanderlei ever fought in PRIDE.

If we're talking wins at 205 exclusively..sure but it's close because i hold guys like Arona, Quinton, Sakuraba, and Hendo in higher regard than most of Chuck's list outside of Randy and Tito..but i hold Hendo and Rampage in higher regard. Belfort ahead of Arona and Saku.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyMon Apr 08, 2013 11:04 am

KingsOwn19 wrote:
1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
2. JDS vs CroCop
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155

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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyMon Apr 08, 2013 12:41 pm


1. Tim Sylvia vs Brock Lesnar
2. JDS vs CroCop
3. Lyoto Machida vs Chuck Liddell
4. Rich Franklin vs Chael Sonnen
5. BJ Penn vs Jose Aldo at 155
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 11:24 am

Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Bader
Davis vs Hamill
Sarah McMann vs Alexis Davis
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 11:34 am

Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Bader
Davis vs Hamill
Sarah McMann vs Alexis Davis
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 11:37 am

GDPofDRC wrote:
Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Bader
Davis vs Hamill
Sarah McMann vs Alexis Davis
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner

I got pretty much the same except I got Stann over Belcher. But a couple of those are tough calls right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 11:39 am

Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Badertoss up IMO
Davis vs Hamill
Sarah McMann vs Alexis Davis
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 11:43 am

Ali* wrote:
Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Badertoss up IMO
Davis vs Hamill
Sarah McMann vs Alexis Davis
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner

Why did you leave 2 fights blank? Are you not familiar with Carmont and Davis?
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins these fights?   Who wins these fights? EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 11:46 am

OU wrote:
Ali* wrote:
Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Badertoss up IMO
Davis vs Hamill
Sarah McMann vs Alexis Davis
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner

Why did you leave 2 fights blank? Are you not familiar with Carmont and Davis?

Yes.
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Bisping vs Cung Le
Phil Davis vs Ryan Bader
Davis vs Hamill
Belcher vs Carmont
Belcher vs Stann
Nelson vs Browne
Jim Miller vs Jorge Masvidal
Jim Miller vs Jamie Varner
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