How the Sequester is Already Hurting

Longer delays at the airport, only when going through customs though, big airports like Chicago are already experiencing problems

the FBI has warned that the sequestration will hamper their hard hitting Wall Street investigations

Military Schools have begun laying off teachers

but hey Boehner got what he wanted and now the Rep's have asked for 550 million in order to keep teens from having sex.....seriously

you have got to be kidding me, sequester is going to cut $85 billion thats 2% of the remainder of the us budget for this year 3.6 trillion

less committees less extravagant travel less wasteful spending within government just to meet budget and your golden as far a sequester is concerned.



2008 bailout of AIG-Remember when Congress voted to bail out the big Wall Street behemoth American International Group in 2008? That cost taxpayers $85 billion, the same amount the Sequester will cut from domestic and defense programs this year.

Every two years, the federal government loses $85 billion from improper payments to the $555 billion-a-year Medicare program, which is exempt from the sequester.
Read more at http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/Slideshow/2013/02/28/8-Things-that-Cost-as-Much-as-Sequestration.aspx?index=6#BUqs7W1XjHlpDwuC.99



$10 Billion Less than 2011's US Beer Purchases

The $85 billion in spending cuts is just $10 million more than what Americans spent on beer in 2011.

The budget cuts are about twice the cost of the $42 billion Beijing Olympics.


If we cant manage this we are in huge trouble no ???

O Haire report no delays. It was BS.

Fed posts 400 new job openings today.

TSA just ordered 50 million in new unis from Mexico. Doesn't look like they're hurting.

I can see why bird wouldnt want to revist this thread

Hey Cubua your all for cutting spending

Hows that working out for greece and Italy

What happened when Hoover cut spending during his recession?

yo greece and italy borrowed and spent untill there was no other choice and now are asking for more bailouts

thanks for making a point for me

haha no buddy habe fun living in your own land where cutting spending during a recession is the way out

history and common sense shows us otherwise but have fun pretending like Hoovers cuts didnt greatly damage the nation and have fun acting like everything is going peachy in Italy and Greece considering they took the republicans advice.

Bird your the last person who should throw stones about living in fantasy land.

I dont think I need to elaborate do I?


I presented a retort to your original post with facts about how little sequestration is

why will you not respond to that?

Cubu you're talking to a wall. Greece was was all about spending, gov jobs, gov corruption, and entitlement with no way to pay for it. You can't spend what you don't have and it cost them.

yeah bird starts topic with puppet talk gets facts laid before him cannot retort said facts throws weak slur leaves thread

http://www.businessinsider.com/sequester-poll-replacement-bill-plans-obama-republicans-2013-2

Most Republicans don't actually support the House Republican plan to
avert the spending cuts known as the sequester, according to a new
poll conducted for Business Insider by our partner SurveyMonkey.

The poll asked participants to consider the core points of
three sequester replacement proposals in Congress, without telling them
the partisan affiliation of those plans. It found that in some
cases, both Democrats and Republicans actually opposed their own party's
plans and/or backed their adversaries' proposal.

Here are the three plans we tested:

• The Senate Democratic plan cancels the
  $85.3 billion in 2013 sequester cuts and replaces them with a mix of
  spending cuts and tax hikes. The plan saves $27.5 billion by cutting
  farm subsidies and raises $55 billion by cutting tax deductions for oil
  companies and by implementing the Buffett Rule, which sets a minimum tax
  rate for incomes over $1 million.
  
• The 2012 House Republican plan
  would cancel the $55 billion in sequester defense cuts for 2013 and
  replace them by shrinking funding to food stamp programs, cutting $11.4
  billion from the public health fund in the Affordable Care Act, and
  cutting the Social Services Block Grant program, among others.
  
• The House Progressive Caucus plan replaces
  the entire sequester with a new plan with equivalent savings. It
  accomplishes this by ending subsidies to fossil fuel companies, closing
  several tax loopholes, cutting the corporate meal and entertainment tax
  deduction at 25 percent, and enacting a 28 percent limit on certain tax
  deductions and extensions.
  

Surveys have found that asking people about just titles of plans or telling people who proposed policy, changes the results, so the point
of this poll was to see what people thought of the plans when they were
fully explained, but also stripped of partisan labels.

SurveyMonkey's poll, which surveyed 550 people, focused on congressional proposals exclusively. Here are some interesting findings of the poll:

• Surprisingly, the plan that polled the strongest was the House Progressive Caucus plan. More than half of respondents supported it compared to sequestration and just a fifth of respondents were opposed.
  
• A plurality of people — 28 percent — believed the House
  Progressive Caucus Plan would have the least financial impact on them
  personally. This makes the most sense, as only 14 percent of respondents
  reported having income over $150,000.
  
• Shockingly, 47 percent of Republicans preferred
  the House Progressive plan to the sequester. This means that Republicans
  supported the House Progressive plan just as much as they supported
  their own party's plan.
  
• Support for the Senate Democrat
  plan was weak, with just fewer than half of respondents preferring that
  plan compared with the sequester.
  
• Opposition to the House Republican plan was strong, with 57 percent preferring the sequester to that plan.
  
• Twice as many Republicans supported sequestration as Democrats.
  
• One-fifth of Democrats prefer the sequester when compared to the Senate Democrats' sequestration replacement plan. About one-quarter of Republicans prefer the Senate Democrat plan to the implementation of the sequester.
  

Below are the full results of the poll, followed by the cross-tabs by party for individual plans:

BI/SurveyMonkey Sequestration poll Results by

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/sequester-poll-replacement-bill-plans-obama-republicans-2013-2#ixzz2NRBIzYkz

I think only the tax payers benefit from government cuts not the political parties who I assume want nothing to do with cuts(including republicans who IMO want to cut from x to give to y)

are cuts really cuts if they are just cuts to proposed increases? It's not actually going to reduce spending, we're still spending more across the board, just not as much more as they want.

yeah everyone wants to increase budget year after year thats sign of growing business but in our governments case it just looses money in alarming rates

oh and gdp nice to know politicians didnt want sequester but pres signed off on it and just like my first post states its such a small overall number its fucking silly how much is being made out of it.

Cu Bu wrote:

yeah everyone wants to increase budget year after year thats sign of growing business but in our governments case it just looses money in alarming rates

oh and gdp nice to know politicians didnt want sequester but pres signed off on it and just like my first post states its such a small overall number its fucking silly how much is being made out of it.

growing business is one thing. That points to a profit being turned out. Not so in our case. The only thing growing is national debt and the wallets of central bankers.

if we were serious about reducing the debt

cut defense (or offense) spending back to 2004 levels, stop wasting money on technologies and weapons we don't even use

cut all foreign aid. Despite what we have been indoctrinated to believe, foreign aid is not feeding starving children in africa. It is taking money from people in this country and giving that money and weapons to corrupt regimes that muder their people so that we can have a military base in their country like Bahrain.

End the drug war. Stop wasting trillions of dollars empowering the illegal drug trade, empowering drug cartels, feeding the private prison industry. Treat drug addiction as a disease. Invest in hemp and marijuana as they are by far the most profitable cash crops in the world.

Stop wars of aggression. All great empires fail by over-extending themselves militarily. Return to the principle of non-interventionism as taught by the founding fathers.

Legalize competing currencies. Fiat currencies controlled by central bankers are literally designed to create debt and transfer wealth and power to the elites.

right oggs our government is attempting to run as a business that was my point


ha neggers gotta neg

American jounalists could learn a thing or two about asking real questions by watching this

Thank your local Republican representative!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/sequestration-furloughs-air-traffic-controller_n_2909287.html

WASHINGTON -- On March 6, Louella Hollingsworth was presented with the League Medal of Safety Award by the National Air Traffic Controllers Association for helping save the life of a pilot in danger.

A week later she was informed that she was being furloughed, one of a snowballing number of casualties from sequestration.

Hollingsworth's story is not the least bit unusual. Across the country, air traffic towers are being shuttered and controllers are looking at reduced pay or pink slips, as a result of Congress' inability to avert the mandatory spending cuts that took effect at the beginning of March. According to Sarah Dunn of the National Air Traffic Controller Association, 14,752 controllers will be forced to take a pay cut. The Federal Aviation Administration alone is facing a 5.1 percent reduction in its operating budget.

The private sector faced worse.

sequester what!?

We have lost 300,000 jobs due to sequestration
Ciuld lose 1.6 million by the time its all said and done
And the republican is celebrating