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Killed in 2013:

Mullah Nazir, Atta Ullah, Rafey Khan, Rata Khan
Mullah Nazir led the Taliban faction in the Wazir areas of South Waziristan. He identified himself as an al Qaeda leader and waged jihad in Afghanistan. Atta Ullah and Rafey Khan were Nazir's deputies; Rata Khan was a senior military commander.
Date killed: Jan. 3, 2013.

Faisal Khan
Khan was a mid-level commander in Hakeemullah Mehsud's Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan.
Date killed: Jan. 3, 2013.


Killed in 2012:

Mohammad Ahmed al Mansoor
Mohammad Ahmed al Mansoor was a mid-level al Qaeda commander.
Date killed: Dec. 9, 2012.

Khalid bin Abdul Rahman al Husainan
Husainan, who is also known as a Abu Zeid al Kuwaiti, served as a senior cleric and ideologue.
Date thought killed: Dec. 7, 2012.

Abdul Rehman al Zaman Yemeni
Abdul Rehman al Zaman Yemeni was a mid-level al Qaeda commander.
Date thought killed: Dec. 1, 2012.

Sheikh Abdul Bari
Sheikh Abdul Bari was a mid-level al Qaeda commander.
Date thought killed: Nov. 29, 2012.

Abu Yahya al Libi
Abu Yahya was a Libyan citizen, and served as al Qaeda's chief of staff and senior cleric and ideologue.
Date killed: June 4, 2012.

Abu Usman Adil
Abu Usman Adil was the leader of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan and spearhead the expansion of the group's operations in Afghanistan.
Date killed: April 29, 2012.

Badr Mansoor
Mansoor, a Pakistani citizen, served as al Qaeda's leader in Pakistan and a key link to the Taliban and Pakistani jihadist groups.
Date killed: Feb. 9, 2012.

Aslam Awan
Awan, who is also known as Abdullah Khorasani, is a deputy to the leader of al Qaeda's external operations network and a Pakistani citizen.
Date killed: Jan. 11, 2012.


Killed in 2011:

Hazrat Omar, Khan Mohammed, Miraj Wazir, and Ashfaq Wazir
Omar was Mullah Nazir's brother who served as the group's operational commander in Afghanistan. Mohammed, a senior deputy to Nazir. Miraj Wazir and Ashfaq Wazir were senior commanders.
Date killed: Oct. 27, 2011.

Abu Miqdad al Masri
A member of al Qaeda's Shura Majlis who also was involved in al Qaeda's external operations.
Date killed: Oct. 13-14, 2011 (exact date is unclear)

Abd al Rahman al Yemeni
A senior operative who was involved in al Qaeda's external operations network.
Date killed: Oct. 13-14, 2011 (exact date is unclear).

Jan Baz Zadran
Siraj Haqqani's deputy who served as the number three for the terror network.
Date killed: Oct. 13, 2011.

Haleem Ullah
A deputy commander to North Waziristan Taliban leader Hafiz Gul Bahadar.
Date killed: Sept. 30, 2011.

Abu Hafs al Shahri
A senior al Qaeda leader who served as the operations chief for Pakistan.
Date killed: Sept. 11, 2011.

Atiyah Abd al Rahman
A senior al Qaeda leader who served as Osama bin Laden's chief of staff and a top operational commander.
Date killed: Aug. 22, 2011.

Ilyas Kashmiri (Unconfirmed)
The leader of al Qaeda's Lashkar al Zil and the operational commander of the Harkat ul Jihad-i-Islami. He also was a member of al Qaeda's external operatiosn council.
Date killed: June 3, 2011.

Abu Zaid al Iraqi
A senior al Qaeda operative who served as the top financial officer in Pakistan.
Date killed: Feb. 20, 2011.


Killed in 2010:

Ibn Amin
A senior al Qaeda and Taliban military commander who led forces in Swat in Pakistan.
Date reported killed: Dec. 17, 2010.

Sheikh Fateh al Masri
Al Qaeda's leader in Afghanistan and Pakistan (or the Khorasan).
Date reported killed: Sept. 25, 2010.

Saifullah Haqqani
A Haqqani Network military commander in Afghanistan and a cousin of Siraj Haqqani. Date reported killed: Sept. 14, 2010.

Qureshi
An Islamic Jihad Group commander who trained Germans and other foreigners in North Waziristan and then sent them back to their home countries.
Date reported killed: Sept. 8, 2010.

Inayatullah
A Taliban military commander based in North Waziristan.
Date reported killed: Sept. 3, 2010.

Abu Ahmed
An al Qaeda military commander who conducted operations in Afghanistan.
Date killed: June 19, 2010.

Sheikh Ihsanullah
An al Qaeda military commander who conducted operations in Afghanistan.
Date killed: June 10, 2010.

Ibrahim
The commander of the Fursan-i-Mohammed Group, an al Qaeda group based in North Waziristan.
Date killed: June 10, 2010.

Osama bin Ali bin Abdullah bin Damjan al Dawsari
A senior operative and key link with the Taliban in South Waziristan, Pakistan. He also facilitated operations in Afghanistan.
Date killed: May 28, 2010.

Mustafa Abu Yazid
Yazid, who is also known and Sheikh Saeed al Masri, is al Qaeda's leader in Afghanistan and top financial official.
Date killed: May 21, 2010.

Sadam Hussein Al Hussami
A senior operative in al Qaeda's external operations network who was involved in the suicide attack that killed seven CIA officials in Khost. Hussami is also known as Ghazwan al Yemeni.
Date killed: March 8, 2010.

Qari Mohammad Zafar
A leader of the al Qaeda and Taliban-linked Fedayeen-i-Islam wanted by the US for attacking the US Consulate in karachi in 2006
Date killed: February 24, 2010.

Mohammed Haqqani
A mid-level Haqqani Network military commander and brother of the group's top military commander Siraj Haqqani.
Date killed: February 18, 2010.

Sheikh Mansoor
An al Qaeda Shadow Army commander who was based in North Waziristan and operated in eastern Afghanistan.
Date killed: February 17, 2010.

Abdul Haq al Turkistani
A member of al Qaeda's Shura Majlis and the leader of the Eastern Turkistan Islamic Party.
Date killed: February 14, 2010.

Abdul Basit Usman
The US has a $1 million bounty on Abdul Basit Usman, an Abu Sayyaf master bomb maker, for conducting attacks that murdered civilians. Usman's death is unconfirmed, however.
Date thought killed: January 14, 2010.

Jamal Saeed Abdul Rahim An Abu Nidal Organization operative who participated in killing 22 hostages during the 1986 hijacking of Pan Am flight 73.
Date reported killed: January 9, 2010.

Mansur al Shami
An al Qaeda ideologue and aide to Mustafa Abu Yazid.
Date killed: Exact date is not known, he was last seen on As Sahab on January 4, 2010.


Killed in 2009:

Haji Omar Khan
A senior Taliban leader in North Waziristan.
Date killed: December 31, 2010

Abdullah Said al Libi
The top commander of the Lashkar al Zil, al Qaeda's Shadow Army.
Date thought killed: December 17, 2009 (exact date is not known)

Zuhaib al Zahib
A commander in the Lashkar al Zil, al Qaeda's Shadow Army.
Date killed: December 17, 2009

Saleh al Somali
The leader of al Qaeda's external network.
Date killed: December 8, 2009

Abu Musa al Masri
A senior al Qaeda explosive expert and trainer.
Date killed: October 21, 2009

Najmuddin Jalolov
The leader of the Islamic Jihad Group, a breakaway faction of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.
Najmuddin was closely allied with al Qaeda.
Date killed: September 14, 2009

Maulvi Ismail Khan
A military commander in the Haqqani Network.
Date killed: September 8, 2009

Mustafa al Jaziri
A senior military commander for al Qaeda who sits on al Qaeda's military shura.
Date killed: September 7, 2009

Tahir Yuldashev
The leader of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.
Date killed: August 27, 2009

Baitullah Mehsud
The overall leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan.
Date killed: August 5, 2009

Kifayatullah Anikhel
A Taliban commander under Baitullah Mehsud.
Date killed: July 7, 2009

Mufti Noor Wali
A suicide bomber trainer for the Taliban and al Qaeda.
Date killed: July 3, 2009

Khwaz Ali Mehsud
A senior deputy to Baitullah Mehsud.
Date killed: June 23, 2009

Abdullah Hamas al Filistini
A senior al Qaeda trainer.
Date killed: April 1, 2009

Osama al Kini (aka Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam)
Al Qaeda's operations chief for Pakistan who was wanted for the 1998 bombings against the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Date killed: January 1, 2009

Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan
A senior aide to Osama al Kini who was wanted for the 1998 bombings against the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Date killed: January 1, 2009

Killed in 2008:

Abu Zubair al Masri
Served as an explosives expert for al Qaeda as well as a leader.
Date killed: November 21, 2008

Abdullah Azzam al Saudi
Served as liaison between al Qaeda and the Taliban operating in Pakistan's northwest. Azzam facilitated al Qaeda's external operations network. He also served as a recruiter and trainer for al Qaeda.
Date killed: November 19, 2008

Abu Jihad al Masri
The leader of the Egyptian Islamic Group and the chief of al Qaeda's intelligence branch, and directed al Qaeda's intelligence shura. He directed al Qaeda's external operations in Egypt.
Date killed: October 31, 2008

Khalid Habib
The commander of the Lashkar al Zil or the Shadow Army, al Qaeda's paramilitary forces in Pakistan's northwest and Afghanistan.
Date killed: October 16, 2008

Abu al Hasan al Rimi
A senior al Qaeda operative.
Date killed: October 2008 - exact date unknown

Abu Ubaidah al Tunisi
An al Qaeda military commander who fought against the Russians in Afghanistan.
Date killed: September 17, 2008

Abu Musa
An al Qaeda operative from Saudi Arabia.
Date killed: September 8, 2008

Abu Qasim
An al Qaeda operative from Egypt.
Date killed: September 8, 2008

Abu Hamza
An explosives expert from Saudi Arabia who served as al Qaeda's commander in Peshawar.
Date killed: September 8, 2008

Abu Haris
A senior al Qaeda military commander from Syria who led more than 250 Arab and Afghan fighters under the guise of the Jaish al Mahdi in Helmand province. He became al Qaeda's operations chief in the tribal areas in 2008.
Date killed: September 8, 2008

Abu Wafa al Saudi
An al Qaeda commander and logistician.
Date killed: September 4, 2008

Abdul Rehman
A local Taliban commander in the Wana region in South Waziristan.
Date killed: August 13, 2008

Abu Khabab al Masri
The chief of al Qaeda's weapons of mass destruction program and a master bomb maker.
Date killed: July 28, 2008

Abu Mohammad Ibrahim bin Abi al Faraj al Masri
A religious leader, close to Abu Khabab al Masri.
Date killed: July 28, 2008

Abdul Wahhab al Masri
A senior aide to Abu Khabab al Masri.
Date killed: July 28, 2008

Abu Islam al Masri
Aide to Abu Khabab al Masri.
Date killed: July 28, 2008

Abu Sulayman Jazairi
The chief of al Qaeda's external network. Jazairi was a senior trainer, an explosives expert, and an operational commander tasked with planning attacks on the West.
Date killed: May 14, 2008

Dr. Arshad Waheed (aka Sheikh Moaz)
A mid-level al Qaeda leader.
Date killed: March 16, 2008

Abu Laith al Libi
Senior military commander in Afghanistan and the leader of the reformed Brigade 055 in al Qaeda's paramilitary Shadow Army.
Date killed: January 29, 2008


Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/pakistan-strikes-hvts.php#ixzz2IMMQfDTi

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PostSubject: Re: High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013   High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013 EmptyWed Jan 23, 2013 3:20 am

really nothing ?

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That isn't enough!
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PostSubject: Re: High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013   High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013 EmptyFri Jan 25, 2013 6:34 pm

we kill Zawahiri and Mullah Omar and its over imo, Saif Adel is probably dead or sitting in Iran, but those are the 3 important fucks left to kill from the 9-11 days

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so no comment on all the HVT killed by our drone program, just came to post a movie ?

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Bird you love death far too much for me to ever reach you so i thought posting an educational video showing the flaws in your logic would do something. Clearly i was wrong. Listing a bunch of dead muslims proves that killing innocent people is admirable.
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PostSubject: Re: High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013   High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013 EmptyTue Jan 29, 2013 2:10 pm

This is a list of names of innocent children killed by America’s drones

But behind each name there is the face of a child with a family history in a village in a far away country, with a mom and a dad, with brothers and sisters and friends.

Among the list, are infants of 1, 2, 3 and 4 years old.

In some cases brothers and sisters of an entire family are killed.

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Four sisters of the Ali Mohammed Nasser family in Yemen were killed. Afrah was 9 years old when she and her three younger sisters Zayda (7 years old) , Hoda (5 years old) and Sheika (4 years old) were struck by an American drone.

Ibrahim, a 13 year old boy of the Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye family in Yemen was struck by a US drone, together with his younger brother Asmaa (9 years old) and two younger sisters, Salma (4 years old) and Fatima (3 years old)

These children are innocent. They are not different from our own children.


Their lives were taken away at a very young age as part of a military agenda, which claims to be combating “international terrorism”

These drone attacks are extremely precise. We are not dealing with “collateral damage”.

Drone operators have the ability of viewing from a computer screen their targets well in advance of a strike.

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A family home is referred to as a “structure” or a “building” rather than a house. When they target a home with family members, they kill children. And they know that in advance of the drone strike:


“Bryant saw a flash on the screen: the explosion. Parts of the building collapsed. The child had disappeared. Bryant had a sick feeling in his stomach.

“Did we just kill a kid?” he asked the man sitting next to him.

“Yeah, I guess that was a kid,” the pilot replied.

“Was that a kid?” they wrote into a chat window on the monitor.” ( The Woes of an American Drone Operator, Spiegel.de, December 14, 2012)

These children were killed on the orders of the US President and Commander in Chief Barack H. Obama.

The commander in chief sets the military agenda and authorizes these killings to proceed.

The killings were quite deliberate. They are categorized as “crimes against humanity” under international law.

The List of Names was compiled by The Bureau of Investigative Journalism



CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2013

Total US strikes: 362
Obama strikes: 310
Total reported killed: 2,629-3,461
Civilians reported killed: 475-891
Children reported killed: 176
Total reported injured: 1,267-1,431



US Covert Action in Yemen 2002–2013

Total confirmed US operations (all): 54-64
Total confirmed US drone strikes: 42-52
Possible extra US operations: 135-157
Possible extra US drone strikes: 77-93
Total reported killed (all): 374-1,112
Total civilians killed (all): 72-177
Children killed (all): 27-37



US Covert Action in Somalia 2007–2013

Total US strikes: 10-23
Total US drone strikes: 3-9
Total reported killed: 58-170
Civilians reported killed: 11-57
Children reported killed: 1-3





Partial List of Children Killed

PAKISTAN

Name | Age | Gender

Noor Aziz | 8 | male
Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
Noor Syed | 8 | male
Wajid Noor | 9 | male
Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
Ayeesha | 3 | female
Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
Shoaib | 8 | male
Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
Maezol Khan | 8 | female
Nasir Khan | male
Naeem Khan | male
Naeemullah | male
Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
Ziauddin | 16 | male
Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
Ilyas | 13 | male
Sohail | 7 | male
Asadullah | 9 | male
khalilullah | 9 | male
Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
Khalid | 12 | male
Saifullah | 9 | male
Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
Nawab | 17 | male
Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
Abdullah | 18 | male
Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
Shahbuddin | 15 | male
Yahya Khan | 16 |male
Rahatullah |17 | male
Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
Shahjehan | 15 | male
Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
Numair | 14 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Taseel Khan | 18 | male
Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
Alam Nabi | 11 | male
Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
Rahmatullah | 14 | male
Abdus Samad | 17 | male
Siraj | 16 | male
Saeedullah | 17 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Salman | 12 | male
Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
Iftikhar | 17 | male
Inayatullah | 15 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Adnan | 16 | male
Najibullah | 13 | male
Naeemullah | 17 | male
Hizbullah | 10 | male
Kitab Gul | 12 | male
Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
Zabihullah | 16 | male
Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
Shabir | 15 | male
Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
Shafiullah | 16 | male
Nimatullah | 14 | male
Shakirullah | 16 | male
Talha | 8 | male

YEMEN

Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
Nasser Salim | 19


And let's not forget over 1 million dead Iraqi Children from that war
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1 million dead children in the iraq war?
jesus dude, you cant be that stupid.

how many inocent civilians do these terrorists kill by hiding and blending into their populations before attempting to kill as many of them as they can?

would you prefer us go back to carpet bombing and fire bombing raids like we did in Dresden and Tokyo

Oggy we are going to go kill these fuckers whether you like it or not, bitching about drone strikes which, yes have killed civilians but no where near the rate of AQ-Taliban-Haqqani attacks rates, nor anywhere close to killing as many civilians as our former bombing policies.


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Are you serious? Do you know how many civilians died from the sanctions alone in Iraq? Do you know how many people died from exposure to radiation from depleted uranium shells? How many people blackwater just shot down for no reason other than a sick sporting ritual? From the 1st Gulf war to the lie of WMD's the U.S. military has been responsible for a lot of innocent people dying. If you cant feel anything but joy for that than you are a cold fucking person.
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Oggy, don't waste your time on the retarded.
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PostSubject: Re: High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013   High Ranking Taliban and AQ killed by Drones 2008-2013 EmptyThu Jan 31, 2013 3:22 pm

oggy420 wrote:
Are you serious? Do you know how many civilians died from the sanctions alone in Iraq? Do you know how many people died from exposure to radiation from depleted uranium shells? How many people blackwater just shot down for no reason other than a sick sporting ritual? From the 1st Gulf war to the lie of WMD's the U.S. military has been responsible for a lot of innocent people dying. If you cant feel anything but joy for that than you are a cold fucking person.

yes I do know, the numbers have been put at closer to 100,000 civilians killed in the Iraq war not 1 million children

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go fuck yourself freak

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http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/afghanistan-iraq-wars-killed-132000-civilians-report-says/

At least 132,000 civilians have died from 10 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new study by Brown university. And that’s a conservative estimate.

No one can say with certainty how many civilians have died in these wars. But researchers at Brown’s Watson Institute for International Studies found that between 12,000 and 14,000 of them perished in Afghanistan — the most recent of which came from Tuesday’s audacious insurgent attack on Kabul’s most famous hotel. Another 120,000 died in Iraq. An estimated 35,000 more lost their lives in Pakistan, where the United States is fighting a shadow war against terror groups and militants. (Although the report says it can’t “disaggregate civilian from combatant death” there, which is kind of a big deal.)

But even by the Institute’s own admission, the death toll is far higher.

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sorry you two fucks cant do a simple google search

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The archive does not put that argument to rest by giving a precise count. As a 2008 report to Congress on the topic makes clear, the figures serve as “guideposts,’ not hard totals. But it does seem to suggest numbers that are roughly in line with those compiled by several sources, including Iraq Body Count, an organization that tracked civilian deaths using press reports, a method the Bush administration repeatedly derided as unreliable and producing inflated numbers. In all, the five-year archive lists more than 100,000 dead from 2004 to 2009, though some deaths are reported more than once, and some reports have inconsistent casualty figures. A 2008 Congressional report warned that record keeping in the war had been so problematic that such statistics should be looked at only as “guideposts.”

In a statement on Friday, Iraq Body Count, which did a preliminary analysis of the archive, estimated that it listed 15,000 deaths that had not been previously disclosed anywhere.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/world/middleeast/23casualties.html?_r=0

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Journalists killed - 150, 98 by murder and 52 by acts of war

Journalists killed by US Forces - 14

Iraqi Police and Soldiers Killed - 10,125, as of July 31, 2011

Iraqi Civilians Killed, Estimated - On October 22, 2010, ABC News reported "a secret U.S. government tally that puts the Iraqi (civilian) death toll over 100,000," information that was included in more than 400,000 military documents released by Wikileaks.com.

A UN issued report dated Sept 20, 2006 stating that Iraqi civilian casualties have been significantly under-reported. Casualties are reported at 50,000 to over 100,000, but may be much higher. Some informed estimates place Iraqi civilian casualities at over 600,000.

Iraqi Insurgents Killed, Roughly Estimated - 55,000

Non-Iraqi Contractors and Civilian Workers Killed - 572 as of August 30, 2011

Non-Iraqi Kidnapped - 306, including 57 killed, 147 released, 4 escaped, 6 rescued and 89 status unknown.

Daily Insurgent Attacks, Feb 2004 - 14

Daily Insurgent Attacks, July 2005 - 70

Daily Insurgent Attacks, May 2007 - 163

Estimated Insurgency Strength, Nov 2003 - 15,000


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notice I am siting sources that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION SAID WERE INFLATING NUMBERS

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Around 162,000 people, almost 80 percent of them civilians, were killed in Iraq from the start of the 2003 U.S.-led invasion up to last year’s withdrawal of American forces, a British NGO said on Monday.

Iraq Body Count (IBC) warned that, contrary to apparent trends in figures released by the Iraqi government, the level of violence has changed little from mid-2009, though attacks are markedly down from when the country was in the throes of sectarian war in 2006 and 2007.

In all, the non-governmental organization said an estimated 162,000 people were killed in Iraq in the nearly nine years of conflict.

It said around 79 percent of the fatalities were civilians, while the remainder included U.S. soldiers, Iraqi security forces, and insurgents.

“The violence peaked in late 2006 but was sustained at high levels until the second half of 2008 -- nearly 90 percent of the deaths occurred by 2009,” IBC said in a statement.



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cat got your tongue?

whatsa next you gonna cite the report that included Muqtada Al Sadr brigades (killing innocent civilians? as americans killing civilians?

even with that they came to around 600,000 civilians and thats including a shiite shit bag who killed thousands on his own (including his death count as an american deth count) and that gets to 600,000

but ya oggy we killed a million children in the iraq war

pull your head out of your ass


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http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/01/30/us-iraq-deaths-survey-idUSL3048857920080130
(Reuters) - More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict in their country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to research conducted by one of Britain's leading polling groups.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/us-media-ignores-estimate_b_60396.html
(Huffington Post) - U.S. Media Ignores Estimate of 1 Million Iraqi Deaths

http://www.globalresearch.ca/iraq-s-shocking-human-toll-about-1-million-killed-4-5-million-displaced-1-2-million-widows-5-million-orphans/12150

Iraq’s Shocking Human Toll: About 1 Million Killed, 4.5 Million Displaced, 1-2 Million Widows, 5 Million Orphans

We are now able to estimate the number of Iraqis who have died in the war instigated by the Bush administration. Looking at the empirical evidence of Bush’s war legacy will put his claims of victory in perspective. Of course, even by his standards — “stability” — the jury is out. Most independent analysts would say it’s too soon to judge the political outcome. Nearly six years after the invasion, the country remains riven by sectarian politics and major unresolved issues, like the status of Kirkuk.

We have a better grasp of the human costs of the war. For example, the United Nations estimates that there are about 4.5 million displaced Iraqis — more than half of them refugees — or about one in every six citizens. Only 5 percent have chosen to return to their homes over the past year, a period of reduced violence from the high levels of 2005-07. The availability of healthcare, clean water, functioning schools, jobs and so forth remains elusive. According to Unicef, many provinces report that less than 40 percent of households have access to clean water. More than 40 percent of children in Basra, and more than 70 percent in Baghdad, cannot attend school.

The mortality caused by the war is also high. Several household surveys were conducted between 2004 and 2007. While there are differences among them, the range suggests a congruence of estimates. But none have been conducted for eighteen months, and the two most reliable surveys were completed in mid-2006. The higher of those found 650,000 “excess deaths” (mortality attributable to war); the other yielded 400,000. The war remained ferocious for twelve to fifteen months after those surveys were finished and then began to subside. Iraq Body Count, a London NGO that uses English-language press reports from Iraq to count civilian deaths, provides a means to update the 2006 estimates. While it is known to be an undercount, because press reports are incomplete and Baghdad-centric, IBC nonetheless provides useful trends, which are striking. Its estimates are nearing 100,000, more than double its June 2006 figure of 45,000. (It does not count nonviolent excess deaths — from health emergencies, for example — or insurgent deaths.) If this is an acceptable marker, a plausible estimate of total deaths can be calculated by doubling the totals of the 2006 household surveys, which used a much more reliable and sophisticated method for estimates that draws on long experience in epidemiology. So we have, at present, between 800,000 and 1.3 million “excess deaths” as we approach the six-year anniversary of this war.

This gruesome figure makes sense when reading of claims by Iraqi officials that there are 1-2 million war widows and 5 million orphans. This constitutes direct empirical evidence of total excess mortality and indirect, though confirming, evidence of the displaced and the bereaved and of general insecurity. The overall figures are stunning: 4.5 million displaced, 1-2 million widows, 5 million orphans, about 1 million dead — in one way or another, affecting nearly one in two Iraqis.

By any sensible measure, it would be difficult to describe this as a victory of any kind. It speaks volumes about the repair work we must do for Iraqis, and it should caution us against the savage wars we are prone to. Now that Bush is gone, perhaps the United States can honestly face the damage we have wrought and the responsibilities we must accept from it.

John Tirman is Executive Director of MIT’s Center for International Studies.



Ahh yet sadly we know Obama has continued the Bush legacy of agressive militarism and has shown the same lack of concern for civilian casualties. Complicating things we are now arming elements of Al-qaeda, the Taliban, and muslim brotherhood to overthrow regimes in many countries, leading to certain unstability in the furture and almost certain future military actions to be taken in response to current failures in policy and common sense.

Many people like to falsely give credit to Obama like he single handedly ended the Iraq war. After assuming office, President Obama abandoned the previous withdraw plan and followed a plan set up by President Bush in the Iraqis in late 2008. President Obama sought to keep troops past that timeline, but conflict over the status of forces agreement prevented troops from remaining past 2011. He then surged more troops in Afhanistan and began drone bombing several different countries.


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the fact that you argue in favor of the Iraq war is mind blowing. It shows that you will literally fall for any pro-war propaganda including the lies of WMD's and Anthrax even since it's been admitted they were lies and false intelligence reports. You show absolutley no understanding for the tragic loss of life that has gone on over in that country, but for people like you it's out of sight, out of mind. You don't even understand that they are people just like us, with familys and lives of their own that have been destroyed by our occupation. Treating them like they are beneath you is exactly why anti-american sentiment is at an all time high. Utter lack of respect for the rule of law and rules of war. The foreign policy you promote is so corrupt and immoral that record number of troops are killing themselves. Nearly 18 veterans a day commit suicide. The human costs of war far outweigh any false illusions of promoting peace and democracy. Henry Kissinger even wrote that military men are dumb useless animals to be used like pawns on a chess board. Apparently you agree with that bird. If you really care about the troops you would listen to what they have to say and not turn your back on them when they ask for help. That is what sending someone for multiple years to fight a useless war will do. It will break people down. We are seeing the tragic results right now yet you continue to promote this sick feeling to murder people who haven't even been convicted of doing anything wrong?I honestly dont understand how someone becomes that blinded by hate to the point where they have absolutely no sense of compassion for the suffering of other human beings.

Ohh here is something that will make you happy though im sure... Drone strikes in America

http://now.msn.com/drone-strikes-on-americans-justified-in-justice-department-memo


Justice Dept. memo OKs using drones on US citizens tied to al-Qaida
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(NBC NEWS) - A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.

The U.S. government believes it can kill its own citizens, without penalty, if those citizens are believed to be "senior operational leaders" of al-Qaida. That’s the gist of a confidential Justice Department memo obtained by NBC News that explains the legal logic behind drone attacks on al-Qaida suspects who are U.S. citizens. The memo claims it’s lawful to kill al-Qaida-linked Americans who pose an "imminent" threat of violent attacks on the U.S., if capture isn't feasible. But their definition of imminent is fuzzy, and seems to actually mean "would engage in attacks … were [they] able to do so." Obama’s war on terror seems to have a new motto: "We may not torture people, but we definitely torture the English language." [Source]


In other words the executive branch can decide to kill an american citizen on american soil without any intelligence suggesting you are involved in an attack, without any due process whatsoever, no jude, no jury, no legal representation. They just kill you and it is ok because it's the government. Yea, now thats what i call constitutional. This is exactly what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the bill of rights....






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so your first citation says more than 1 million iraqis have died since the US invasion

not 1 million children

also , you do realize that a civil war nearly broke out in 2006? SO blaming american soldiers for people killed in a shiite-sunni secterian conflict is also asinine.


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also no offense, but Iraq did not attack us on 9-11 and were not tied to Al Qaeda, Zarqawi did not join Al Qaeda till 2004 after we went to iraq.

to bring the iraq death toll (which should not and can not be attributed to our troops as you attempt) is asinine when discussing the drone program. the false Iraq war is an entirely different issue, but at least when your going to attempt to distort, you should have factual data, not cherry picked data that attempts to blame american soldiers for Muqtada Al Sadr's killing spree

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