UFC 155 discussion

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Ali wrote:

Well probably get a rematch next despite Cain dominating Dos Santos.

If not Reem, then Werdum is probably next. Matchup wise both interesting fights for Cain.

I wonder if Cormier vs. JDS is on tap assuming Dion Staring does not hijack the train.

Doesn't Werdum have a tuf to film and a match with Old Nog ?

I want comier to fight Cain and Jds to fight overseen. Won't happen but that should be the fights IMO.

Ali wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Ali wrote:

Well probably get a rematch next despite Cain dominating Dos Santos.

If not Reem, then Werdum is probably next. Matchup wise both interesting fights for Cain.

I wonder if Cormier vs. JDS is on tap assuming Dion Staring does not hijack the train.

Doesn't Werdum have a tuf to film and a match with Old Nog ?

Yeah, which is why it's probably Uber should he beat Silva. That fight in in Feb. They can have that fight on tap for Spring or early summer.

Werdum and Nog arent expected to fight until June.

The real question is...where does the Duff Man figure into this after his first round smashing of Phil De Fries?

KingsOwn19 wrote:

The real question is...where does the Duff Man figure into this after his first round smashing of Phil De Fries?

Todd's win over De Fries just proves that Overeem's victory was a fluke.

well fucking A that wasnt even close
ran to the bar and watch, ,pretty surprised how gassed JDS was.

Dana says he heard Cigano broke his jaw in the 2nd round.

Sounds like Dana's leaning towards Cain vs. Overeem next.

lol apparently Jeremy Piven got squirted with Lauzon's blood.

Ali wrote:

lol apparently Jeremy Piven got squirted with Lauzon's blood.

That would piss me off so much.

I don't mind keeping exciting fighters. As long as they're put on the pre-lims.

Ali wrote:

I don't mind keeping exciting fighters.

The only thing exciting about a Garcia fight is when they are announcing the decision and we really don't know if the guy who whooped Garcia is going to get screwed or not.

Garcia has not really won a fight since he beat Jens Pulver. The guy is pretty much on a 10 fight losing streak. He's a joke.

According to Brazilian reporter Cigano's jaw is fine.

I don't get why everyone is praising Philipoopoo he only won because of an injured hand and an eye poke, he shouldn't crack the top ten.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Ali wrote:

I don't mind keeping exciting fighters.

The only thing exciting about a Garcia fight is when they are announcing the decision and we really don't know if the guy who whooped Garcia is going to get screwed or not.

Garcia has not really won a fight since he beat Jens Pulver. The guy is pretty much on a 10 fight losing streak. He's a joke.

plus 1000000000000000000

can't stand garcia...

thats not photo shopped.... and thats scary

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Well, we knew this would happen to dos Santos eventually.

the guy has a jurassic one trick style and his run was fairly amazing in this era. .

This is a bit short sided IMO. If JDS would have hit cain with that 2 against the cage in rd 1 I think it would have been the opposite outcome. Not to take anything from cain he slayed and is a wrecking ball. JDS still has the TDD and boxing to ko anyone in HW. I think cormier would try and do the same to JDS but who else in the hw div could? Cain and Cormier could implement the gameplan but if jds catches cain he is looking like he did in rd 4 and 5 in the first round or 2.

killerofchicken wrote:

I bet when you saw that picture Killer you started thinking about Cain's toenails

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2012/12/ufc-155-salaries-dos-santos-new-champ-velasquez-top-1-261-million-payroll
The full list of paydays from the 12-bout card include:

Champ Cain Velasquez: $200,000 (includes $100,000 win bonus)
def. Junior Dos Santos: $400,000

Jim Miller: $82,000 (includes $41,000 win bonus)
def. Joe Lauzon: $27,000

Constantinos Philippou: $36,000 (includes $18,000 win bonus)
def. Tim Boetsch: $37,000

Yushin Okami: $84,000 (includes $42,000 win bonus)
def. Alan Belcher: $37,000

Derek Brunson: $30,000 (includes $17,000 win bonus)
def. Chris Leben: $51,000

Eddie Wineland: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
def. Brad Pickett: $17,000

Erik Perez: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Bryon Bloodworth $6,000

Jamie Varner: $24,000 (includes $12,000 win bonus)
def. Melvin Guillard: $42,000

Myles Jury: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
def. Michael Johnson $14,000

Todd Duffee: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus)
def. Phil De Fries: $14,000

Max Holloway: $24,000 (includes $12,000 win bonus)
def. Leonard Garcia: $20,000

John Moraga: $22,000 (includes $11,000 win bonus)
def. Chris Cariaso: $12,000

Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special discretionary bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. They also do not include portions of the pay-per-view revenue that some top-level fighters receive.

For example, as previously reported, UFC officials handed out additional $65,000 UFC 145 bonuses to Duffee ("KO of the Night"), Moraga ("Submission of the Night"), and Miller and Lauzon ("Fight of the Night").

In other words, the above figures are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event.

So after digesting all the crow this morning I want to say how Miller vs Joe saved this card for me. That was an excellent fight and the main card was pretty bad up to that point. My eyes were more red and swollen then JDS's was by the time that last fight was over. But damn my boy has heart for days. I was reading a little bit this morning and saw something I agreed with. Cain took everything from JDS that night except his heart. No matter how many times Cain put him down he got back up. I respect both fighters tremendously following that fight. I know Cain had to reach down deep to keep the pressure on JDS late in that fight. It has been a long time since he had to dig down that deep in a fight, probably since the Kongo fight. I thought Cain also showed alot of heart in this fight and proved how bad he wanted it. Extremely impressed by what I saw in those last 2 fights. True warriors on display.