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PostSubject: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 4:37 pm

Don't know what else to take from Dana saying he has "No idea" if Hendricks-Kamp winner will get a title shot. I guess he will have to wait and see if the winner can cut a good enough WWE style promo.

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"I have no idea," he said. "I have no idea. We have to see how this thing plays out.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 4:38 pm

Maybe Junie Browning can come in and get that shot.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 7:40 pm

It's because of Nick Diaz. If the Koscheck fight does not happen i can see Nick getting a shot in his first fight back from suspension.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 7:44 pm

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It's because of Nick Diaz. If the Koscheck fight does not happen i can see Nick getting a shot in his first fight back from suspension.

And it will be against Anderson Silva.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 7:46 pm

Yep...and the loser of Ben Henderson-Nate Diaz will challenge the winner of GSP-Condit for the WW title.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyThu Nov 08, 2012 1:15 am

It's because of Silva, he's going to be cage side for the GSP vs. Condit fight and they plan to do a face off if GSP wins.

If Condit wins he'll face the winner of Kamp vs. Hendricks, especially if it's Kamp.

GSP has the right to a rematch but the way things are building up a rematch would just bring the division to a halt.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyTue Dec 11, 2012 2:36 pm

Dana confirmed this when he put Diaz ahead of Hendricks.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyTue Dec 11, 2012 2:39 pm

To be honest I am not really that bothered about it, I've wanted to see GSP vs. Diaz for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyTue Dec 11, 2012 2:43 pm

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To be honest I am not really that bothered about it, I've wanted to see GSP vs. Diaz for a while.
I have wanted that fight as well. But not like this. This isn't right. Johnny was given the chance to prove he deserves it in the cage while Nick was stuck on the sideline. Hendricks made it very, very clear he was ready for his shot. He did that in the cage. His statements were made with his actions in the cage.
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyTue Dec 11, 2012 2:44 pm

Some people care about a thing called integrity.

Having now two UFC titles being defended against guys coming off of losses is troubling.

Ali do your values want to see Diaz earn a fight with GSP or simply be handed one over fighters who have been doing their talking between bells?
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Some people care about a thing called integrity.

Having now two UFC titles being defended against guys coming off of losses is troubling.

Ali do your values want to see Diaz earn a fight with GSP or simply be handed one over fighters who have been doing their talking between bells?

I just want to see fights that interest/excite me and this does, sorry.
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The blame falls on GSP, just like Hendricks said
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PostSubject: Re: I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage   I guess title shots are no longer earned in the cage EmptyTue Dec 11, 2012 2:55 pm

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Some people care about a thing called integrity.

Having now two UFC titles being defended against guys coming off of losses is troubling.

Ali do your values want to see Diaz earn a fight with GSP or simply be handed one over fighters who have been doing their talking between bells?
It's not just that. Cause I would have been upset if Reem would have got his shot after being caught cheating. But thankfully, they are doing with him what they should have done with Diaz. If they really wanted Diaz vs GSP then give Diaz a favorable matchup like they are Reem. They could have went Diaz vs Kampmann. A very favorable matchup for Nick and if can't win that then he has no business getting a shot anyways.
Besides the losses, with Nick he is jumping someone who has clearly earned his shot. It's not like it's up in the air who could/should be next. It's clear, Hendricks earn his title shot.
I don't even need to explain the Chael situation. Hasn't won a LHW fight in years and there are double digit number of fighters more deserving. He has never even been ranked at LHW before.
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The blame falls on GSP, just like Hendricks said
GSP doesn't make the fights. He can request it, but Dana is the one that has the final say. He could tell GSP he is fighting Hendricks and GSP would do it. Blame falls on the one who makes the fight.
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The blame falls on GSP, just like Hendricks said
GSP doesn't make the fights. He can request it, but Dana is the one that has the final say. He could tell GSP he is fighting Hendricks and GSP would do it. Blame falls on the one who makes the fight.

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If GSP was a man he would do the right thing. Blame Georges
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If GSP was a man he would do the right thing. Blame Georges

Damn that GSP....How dare he want the more lucrative fight!
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If GSP was a man he would do the right thing. Blame Georges

Damn that GSP....How dare he want the more lucrative fight!
To be fair, I do give him some blame. He is looking past a worthy challenger because he doesn't like how Nick talks about him. He deserves his share of blame. But ultimately Dana could have just said no, Nick needs 1 win before we can even talk about that fight.
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If GSP was a man he would do the right thing. Blame Georges

Damn that GSP....How dare he want the more lucrative fight!

He has every right to want to fight the guy who would possibly help him make more money.

We have every right to be unsatisfied that greed is pushing the deserving fighter aside.
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GDPofDRC wrote:
Some people care about a thing called integrity.

Having now two UFC titles being defended against guys coming off of losses is troubling.

Ali do your values want to see Diaz earn a fight with GSP or simply be handed one over fighters who have been doing their talking between bells?

I just want to see fights that interest/excite me and this does, sorry.

never mind.
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It just seems like now in the UFC, if you can talk a good game, you might be able to get a light heavyweight title shot. And if you get suspended for a year, come right back after losing a fight, you get to fight Georges St. Pierre for the title. So, maybe I'll just take a couple of months off, do some things I shouldn't do, and maybe I'll get to fight for the title.
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If GSP was a man he would do the right thing. Blame Georges

Damn that GSP....How dare he want the more lucrative fight!

He has every right to want to fight the guy who would possibly help him make more money.

We have every right to be unsatisfied that greed is pushing the deserving fighter aside.

cheers

he is a fighter, does he want to get a brick in the side of the head? not really and if no one appreciates him outboxing hendricks for 5 rds why take the punishment when he can ride nick like a Tijuana hooker for 5 rds and get more money
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It just seems like now in the UFC, if you can talk a good game, you might be able to get a light heavyweight title shot. And if you get suspended for a year, come right back after losing a fight, you get to fight Georges St. Pierre for the title. So, maybe I'll just take a couple of months off, do some things I shouldn't do, and maybe I'll get to fight for the title.
-Koscheck

Good stuff from a guy who has a name based on being a dickhead
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It just seems like now in the UFC, if you can talk a good game, you might be able to get a light heavyweight title shot. And if you get suspended for a year, come right back after losing a fight, you get to fight Georges St. Pierre for the title. So, maybe I'll just take a couple of months off, do some things I shouldn't do, and maybe I'll get to fight for the title.
-Koscheck

Good stuff from a guy who has a name based on being a dickhead
I hate the man but he speaks the truth.
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And he's profited from it
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