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PostSubject: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 12:22 am

How the fuck does this happen? It blows my mind how unbelievably dumb people are.

Unemployment (true, not reported) is near 10%.

The debt is growing at an alarming rate with no signs if slowing down.

Obama didn't even bother to create a budget in his 4 years.

The energy plan is to invest in unproven and failing areas while ignoring oil and natural gas.

The economy is in the shitter and the plan to fix it is to print more money and give it to people and companies who have proven to fail more money to lose.

Don't even get me started on health care. Obama has pushed in a system that will weaken the medical field.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 12:50 am

Hard to beat incumbents...even shitty ones.

Well, unless Obama makes a drastic shift to the center the shit will get deeper. He might since the house is still red, he's a lame duck and he does not really have to worry about his base being happy. So i hold out hope for that and we can get some good bipartisan action but Obamacare isnt going anywhere unfortunately and thats a shit sandwich america is gonna have to eat for a long time.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 12:59 am

I think Obama goes the other direction. He has no more election to worry about. He doesnt gave to pander to "independants". He can be as liberal as he wants and spend whatever he pleases while continuing to avoid going through congress.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:19 am

I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised. The strongest of convictions shouldn't of prevented people from understanding what was going to happen today. This was never a close race.

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:23 am

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I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised. The strongest of convictions shouldn't of prevented people from understanding what was going to happen today. This was never a close race.

Of course it was. Polls were split down to the wire. Mittens is still winning the popular vote at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:41 am

Republicans ran a garbage candidate against him. Not surprising at all

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:44 am

bobbitt15 wrote:
Republicans ran a garbage candidate against him. Not surprising at all

Both times. I'm ready for Rubio/Cruz ticket in 2016.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:46 am

Farmer1906 wrote:
GDPofDRC wrote:
I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised. The strongest of convictions shouldn't of prevented people from understanding what was going to happen today. This was never a close race.

Of course it was. Polls were split down to the wire. Mittens is still winning the popular vote at this point.

I still stand by the claim, I understand why some people I know personally are surprised and it's not for any reason I have been persuaded is good or justifiable in their case.

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 9:14 am

I am not surprised in the least, I know this may seem like poor sportsmanship but really what good is the electoral vote in todays day and age? Our government has the ability to tally votes and winner can be the popular vote.( I watched breaking bad instead of election last night so do not know who won popular yet)

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 9:17 am

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I am not surprised in the least, I know this may seem like poor sportsmanship but really what good is the electoral vote in todays day and age? Our government has the ability to tally votes and winner can be the popular vote.( I watched breaking bad instead of election last night so do not know who won popular yet)

I actually like the electoral college. If we turn to popular vote then it becomes about winning the 10-15 largest cities. Most cities are democrats. The country oves even more to the left.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 9:53 am

goldman sachs won the election, closely followed by goldman sachs in second place.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 9:54 am

Farmer1906 wrote:
Cu Bu wrote:
I am not surprised in the least, I know this may seem like poor sportsmanship but really what good is the electoral vote in todays day and age? Our government has the ability to tally votes and winner can be the popular vote.( I watched breaking bad instead of election last night so do not know who won popular yet)

I actually like the electoral college. If we turn to popular vote then it becomes about winning the 10-15 largest cities. Most cities are democrats. The country oves even more to the left.

I don't understand this at all. Popular vote was very close yet electoral vote was pretty one sided. Yet going popular moves the country even more to the left?

I was kind of hoping Mittens would win popular so that there would be a major uproar and a move to overturn current system.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 9:57 am

cheekynffc wrote:
goldman sachs won the election, closely followed by goldman sachs in second place.

Can't help but be very cynical when considering the amount of $$$ put into these campaigns. The recent "corporations are people" ruling exasperates the situation, but it was hard to swallow even b4 that ruling.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 10:04 am

I voted for Mitt.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 10:04 am

Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 10:05 am

OU wrote:
I voted for Mitt.

Oklahoma did the right thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 10:05 am

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I voted for Mitt.

Oklahoma did the right thing.
We always do.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 10:12 am

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Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.

Pure speculation I presume.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 11:07 am

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Farmer1906 wrote:
Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.

Pure speculation I presume.

Well government jobs is one of the few sectors growing the past 4 years as far as jobs. Government employees did donate a nice chunk to Obama for reelection.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 11:33 am

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Farmer1906 wrote:
Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.

Pure speculation I presume.

Definitely.

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 11:38 am

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I couldn't find the thread about The Donald.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 12:47 pm

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Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.

Pure speculation I presume.

Well government jobs is one of the few sectors growing the past 4 years as far as jobs. Government employees did donate a nice chunk to Obama for reelection.

Private sector has added jobs. State and local govt's have shrunk considerably which has slowed the recovery. Federal Government jobs have risen but not significantly, and most of those are in defense.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:05 pm

captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.

Pure speculation I presume.

Well government jobs is one of the few sectors growing the past 4 years as far as jobs. Government employees did donate a nice chunk to Obama for reelection.

Private sector has added jobs. State and local govt's have shrunk considerably which has slowed the recovery. Federal Government jobs have risen but not significantly, and most of those are in defense.

From an article from June.

Private-sector jobs are still down by 4.6 million, or 4%, from January 2008.

Federal employment actually is 225,000 jobs above its January 2008 level, an 11.4% increase.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Wins   Obama Wins EmptyWed Nov 07, 2012 1:14 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
Think about this one. The federal government employees get money from the Obama administration then return the favor by donating it to Obama's reelection. It must be nice to print money for your reelection.

Its like alright everyone gets a 5% raise this year instead of a 3% raise but 1% needs to be donated to Obama for reelection. Hooray big gov.

Pure speculation I presume.

Well government jobs is one of the few sectors growing the past 4 years as far as jobs. Government employees did donate a nice chunk to Obama for reelection.

Private sector has added jobs. State and local govt's have shrunk considerably which has slowed the recovery. Federal Government jobs have risen but not significantly, and most of those are in defense.

From an article from June.

Private-sector jobs are still down by 4.6 million, or 4%, from January 2008.

Federal employment actually is 225,000 jobs above its January 2008 level, an 11.4% increase.


pretty sure it's about a 5% increase. http://www.opm.gov/feddata/historicaltables/totalgovernmentsince1962.asp

Over 4 years, is that a lot?

Jan 08 economy was still in free fall mode. Losing jobs monthy by the hundreds of thousands. Dishonest to compare then to now. Not as dishonest as comparing gas prices at that time to now, but dishonest nonetheless.


But since Jan 2010, private sector has been on a solid uptick. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001


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