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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: LHW Top 20 Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:41 am | |
| Or however many you can think of. | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:07 am | |
| 1. Jon Jones 2. Dan Henderson 3. Rashad Evans 4. Lyoto Machida 5. Alexander Gustafsson 6. Shogun Rua 7. Phil Davis 8. Forrest Griffin 9. Ryan Bader 10. Lil Nog
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:30 am | |
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| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:03 am | |
| 1. John Jones 2. Every 1 else | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:58 pm | |
| It was 6 am give a me a break.
Anyway why can't we just have the old thread where we posted all our rankings instead of these individual ones ? |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:41 pm | |
| 1 Jon Jones 2 Dan Henderson 3 Mauricio Rua 4 Rashad Evans 5 Lyoto Machida 6 Alexander Gustaffson 7 Phil Davis 8 Rafeal Cavalcante 9 Mo Lawal 10 Gegard Mousasi 11 Ryan Bader 12 Quintion Jackson 13 Forrest Griffin 14 Rogerio Noguiera 15 Glover Teixeira 16 Ryan Jimmo 17 Stanislav Nedkov 18 Attila Vegh 19 James Te Huna 20 Thiago Silva
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| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:41 pm | |
| - Ali wrote:
- Anyway why can't we just have the old thread where we posted all our rankings instead of these individual ones ?
Because there was too much redundancy. Lately I've been asking after each title fight in a division. A division typically has 1 to 3 defenses per year so after a title fight seemed like a good time to ask who are the best of the division so that way a good handful of important fights would of theoretically taken place so there is more opportunity for change. But, depending on the responsiveness of MMA fans on this website, this might be the last time I ask for rankings. | |
| | | Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:48 pm | |
| 1 Jon Jones 2 Dan Henderson 3 Rashad Evans 4 Lyoto Machida 5 Alexander Gustaffson 6 Mauricio Rua 7 Phil Davis 8 Gegard Mousasi 9 Ryan Bader 10 Quinton Jackson 11 Rafeal Cavalcante 12 Forrest Griffon 13 Glover Texeira 14 Rogerio Noguiera 15 Thiago Silva 16 Ryan Jimmo 17 Stanislav Nedkov 18 Vitor Belfort 19 James Te Huna 20 Vinny Magalhes | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:56 pm | |
| Hmm, does anyone know what Belforts future plans are, did mention anything postfight? | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:00 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Hmm, does anyone know what Belforts future plans are, did mention anything postfight?
Vitor said he was open to fighting at either weight, said cutting to 205lbs was alot easier but he'll fight whoever the UFC ask him to. That's what Vitor said at the post fight conference.
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| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:00 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Hmm, does anyone know what Belforts future plans are, did mention anything postfight?
I'm under the assumption he is going back to MW. He was scheduled to fight at MW before taking this fight. I'm assuming he is still fairly close to getting another MW title shot. I haven't seen or heard anything that would suggest he is staying at LHW. In fact I remember hearing that despite being pretty big he is still going to be at MW, just don't remember where. | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:03 pm | |
| Might have to include him in on this list then if his weight is p4p. | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:08 pm | |
| He doesn't really warrant a place for being competitive against Jones and beating Rumble at a catchweight, rankings are about beating fighters in that division. |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:12 pm | |
| Argument noted. Finding: INVALID | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:14 pm | |
| Then you're just making it into a popularity contest. |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:16 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Argument noted. Finding: INVALID
Agreed. Happens all the time. Florian, Mouse, Joe, Faber and plenty others got love at rankings without fighting or just fighting once in different divisions. Hell Vitor technically didn't even fight at MW in the UFC before fighting Spider. | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:17 pm | |
| - Ali wrote:
- Then you're just making it into a popularity contest.
I think we can make educated guesses on where they would/should be ranked at different weight classes. | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:19 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- Ali wrote:
- Then you're just making it into a popularity contest.
I think we can make educated guesses on where they would/should be ranked at different weight classes. That's not how you're suppose to rank with weight classes, to be ranked in the top 10 or 20 you need to defeat a fighter who's ranked in that weight class or at least have a body of fights in that division. |
| | | Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:20 pm | |
| I put Vitor on there because he came closer to winning than anyone else Jones has ever fought(barring Hammill). | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:23 pm | |
| - Ludo wrote:
- I put Vitor on there because he came closer to winning than anyone else Jones has ever fought(barring Hammill).
I may not agree with it but I can accept it. Ranking for the notoriety is what I don't like. |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:26 pm | |
| Vitor Belfort just fought Jon Jones, a 205 pound fighter, in his last fight. Also, in Vitors entire career, only four fights have happened that were not heavier than the middleweight division, the last being a year ago, two fights ago. So tell me how he doesn't warrant consideration at 205 again. | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:27 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Vitor Belfort just fought Jon Jones, a 205 pound fighter, in his last fight. Also, in Vitors entire career, only four fights have happened that were not heavier than the middleweight division, the last being a year ago, two fights ago. So tell me how he doesn't warrant consideration at 205 again.
Beating Ace and Rumble at catchweights should have no implications on the LHW rankings, they weren't even over 200lbs. |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:30 pm | |
| They are more so LHW fights then they are MW fights in my opinion, any thing over 185 is a light heavyweight fight essentially. A fight at 10 pounds over the MW mark has more implications at 205 then 185 | |
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| Subject: Re: LHW Top 20 Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:32 pm | |
| - Ali wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- Vitor Belfort just fought Jon Jones, a 205 pound fighter, in his last fight. Also, in Vitors entire career, only four fights have happened that were not heavier than the middleweight division, the last being a year ago, two fights ago. So tell me how he doesn't warrant consideration at 205 again.
Beating Ace and Rumble at catchweights should have no implications on the LHW rankings, they weren't even over 200lbs. Both men have fought at LHW since that fight. GDP is right, technically LHW is 186(187non title)-205(206 non title) | |
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