SF: Honda vs. Kaufman discussion

you know its bad when you make Tate's performance vs ROusey look good.

Tate actually didnt do bad vs. Honda. Really, just the armbars. She landed some shots and briefly found herself in very good positions on the ground. She got Honda's back. Tate is better than Kaufman though IMO. There was a time when Kaufman was slightly better than Tate, but those days are over. Tate has more game.

Kaufman comes out looking better though, because her arm isnt mangled. Tate was not going to tap to Ronda.

No mention of Herb stopping the Amagov vs Berry fight early.

agree, I feel like the sport might be in the process of evolving past Kaufmans stand and bang-wrestle style.

I like WMMA because it reminds me of early MMA/NHB where mastering one discipline or style was all you needed, Rousey is dominating with a pretty one dimensional attack. Fun to see happen, Kaufman just really looked like shit tonight, no other way to put it. ROusey was coming for that arm the second the fight started and Kaufman looked like a deer spotting head lights.

I didn't see that part but the crowd was letting Herb have it. Did anyone else see that pole hill billy referee with the long beard and running all over the place like a cartoon character.

agree as well, Tate wasn't tapping until it was mangled, Kaufman tapped the instant Ronda got leverage and grinded the hips

Primetyme199 wrote:

No mention of Herb stopping the Amagov vs Berry fight early.

i missed that fight, but heard it was a pretty premature stoppage.

Yeah, we talked about it the last time Rousey fought. WMMA is definitely where men's MMA was in the mid to late 90's.

Ronda is pretty much Royce Gracie for WMMA right now.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Yeah, we talked about it the last time Rousey fought. WMMA is definitely where men's MMA was in the mid to late 90's.

Ronda is pretty much Royce Gracie for WMMA right now.

ya I think its about 1995 era honestly. COuple of good fighters with skill set and thats about it, she is definitely the WMMA Gracie.
Would be funny if she got to 11-0 with 11 subs

Primetyme199 wrote:

hahahahha the best was when he ran over twice and acted like he was going to stop the fight

Tate just said at press conference that she wants a couple more fights before a ROnda rematch

That ref with the beard does kotc a lot.

Wish I had set this to record, missed th whole event but it was worth it tho...

Birdofthad wrote:

Primetyme199 wrote:

hahahahha the best was when he ran over twice and acted like he was going to stop the fight

KingsOwn19 wrote:

That was quick.

I'm guessing they just need to find another olympic judokan of the same size.

Didn't an American win bronze again this year? Watched somebody that was real aggressive in her attacks. Don't know her weight though.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Yeah, we talked about it the last time Rousey fought. WMMA is definitely where men's MMA was in the mid to late 90's.

Ronda is pretty much Royce Gracie for WMMA right now.

Little different in that Royce brought a style that guys had zero familiarity with. These girls that are fighting Ronda are all trained in submissions, they are pretty fluent. But none are the athlete that Ronda is, and none have been competing in a combat sport since they were little kids.

I got Ronda over Cyborg pretty easily.

captain organic wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

That was quick.

I'm guessing they just need to find another olympic judokan of the same size.

Didn't an American win bronze again this year? Watched somebody that was real aggressive in her attacks. Don't know her weight though.

she won gold, Kayla Harrison

Birdofthad wrote:

captain organic wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

That was quick.

I'm guessing they just need to find another olympic judokan of the same size.

Didn't an American win bronze again this year? Watched somebody that was real aggressive in her attacks. Don't know her weight though.

she won gold, Kayla Harrison

Just looked her up. She's humoungo. Would have to lose a bunch of weight to get to 135.

Though she is not the one I was talking about. Marti Malloy won bronze at 57 kg. Though that's a little light for Rousey.

captain organic wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

captain organic wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

That was quick.

I'm guessing they just need to find another olympic judokan of the same size.

Didn't an American win bronze again this year? Watched somebody that was real aggressive in her attacks. Don't know her weight though.

she won gold, Kayla Harrison

Just looked her up. She's humoungo. Would have to lose a bunch of weight to get to 135.

Though she is not the one I was talking about. Marti Malloy won bronze at 57 kg. Though that's a little light for Rousey.

Yeah I did the math, that bitch is way too big.
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