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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:53 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:54 am | |
| I absolutely hate the Jazz as a Rocket fan but they suck and aren't getting better any time soon so I'm going to enjoy it a little more when LA's super team can't even make the playoffs. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:55 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:56 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. Clippers have a 100000000000000000000000000000000x better bench and Clippers have better overall talent. It's not just top 3 vs top 3 and some of those are very close. Cause after that Clippers edge is just massive. They have more talent and it's not debatable. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:56 am | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:58 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. Clippers have a 100000000000000000000000000000000x better bench and Clippers have better overall talent. It's not just top 3 vs top 3 and some of those are very close. Cause after that Clippers edge is just massive. They have more talent and it's not debatable. Give Phil Jackson all next season with the Lakers and they would beat the Clippers in a 7 game series no doubt. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:59 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:00 am | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:03 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. Clippers have a 100000000000000000000000000000000x better bench and Clippers have better overall talent. It's not just top 3 vs top 3 and some of those are very close. Cause after that Clippers edge is just massive. They have more talent and it's not debatable. Give Phil Jackson all next season with the Lakers and they would beat the Clippers in a 7 game series no doubt. LOL that's just delusional. You can just look at a comparison of talent and know that's a massive stretch. "No doubt", that's insane levels of confidence for no apparent reason. Get real. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:04 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference. You're not that dumb to see that the Clippers actually have the better talent on their roster. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:06 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference. You're not that dumb to see that the Clippers actually have the better talent on their roster. Yes they have better depth but in this league stars win and the Lakers have the better stars. |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:07 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference. You're not that dumb to see that the Clippers actually have the better talent on their roster. Yes they have better depth but in this league stars win and the Lakers have the better stars. Yeah but Clippers still have some stars and that depth really gives them the edge over Lakers IMO. Next year Clippers could very well win the West and IMO it shouldn't surprise anyone. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:09 am | |
| When I see Griffin and Jordan play good in the playoffs then I'll have a higher opinion of them but right now they've done nothing. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:13 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- When I see Griffin and Jordan play good in the playoffs then I'll have a higher opinion of them but right now they've done nothing.
Come on man they are young. They haven't had the chances to do well in the playoffs. If they choke this year then I'll understand your point more. But it's not like they underperformed before, they just played better teams. But this year they are one of the better teams for the first time. This is the first year you can really have expectations of them making some noise. Blake Griffin is only 24 and missed his entire 1st season due to injury. Give him time. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:26 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- When I see Griffin and Jordan play good in the playoffs then I'll have a higher opinion of them but right now they've done nothing.
Come on man they are young. They haven't had the chances to do well in the playoffs. If they choke this year then I'll understand your point more. But it's not like they underperformed before, they just played better teams. But this year they are one of the better teams for the first time. This is the first year you can really have expectations of them making some noise. Blake Griffin is only 24 and missed his entire 1st season due to injury. Give him time. In the playoffs would you rather have Griffin and Jordan or Howard and Gasol? To me it's a no contest. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:34 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- When I see Griffin and Jordan play good in the playoffs then I'll have a higher opinion of them but right now they've done nothing.
Come on man they are young. They haven't had the chances to do well in the playoffs. If they choke this year then I'll understand your point more. But it's not like they underperformed before, they just played better teams. But this year they are one of the better teams for the first time. This is the first year you can really have expectations of them making some noise. Blake Griffin is only 24 and missed his entire 1st season due to injury. Give him time. In the playoffs would you rather have Griffin and Jordan or Howard and Gasol? To me it's a no contest. Right now, yeah. But right now if you look at both rosters which one would you take? I'll take the Clips. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:04 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference. Talent matters so much more than coaching at the NBA level. I'd put at a 90-10 split. You give Phil the suns and ill take the Heat. We play a 10 games and I'm beating Phil at least 8/10. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:06 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference.
Talent matters so much more than coaching at the NBA level. I'd put at a 90-10 split. You give Phil the suns and ill take the Heat. We play a 10 games and I'm beating Phil at least 8/10. I agree. Like if Phil was coaching the Rockets they still wouldn't be a top 4 seed. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:09 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference.
Talent matters so much more than coaching at the NBA level. I'd put at a 90-10 split. You give Phil the suns and ill take the Heat. We play a 10 games and I'm beating Phil at least 8/10. I agree. Like if Phil was coaching the Rockets they still wouldn't be a top 4 seed. True because they're about to be the youngest team in history to make the playoffs. Let the youngins develop a little more and add another stud then your boys north if the red river will be in trouble as clutch city returns to its championship ways. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:11 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- OU wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- If they had Phil Jackson as coach they would still be the team in LA.
Maybe, but I think it's far from a lock. Clippers just have better players. How? Kobe is better than Paul, Gasol better than Griffin and Howard much better than Jordan. If all that us true then it shouldn't matter who the coach is. Actually it should when the coach is making them play a way that doesn't bring out their strengths. He's making Dwight not rebound D up and make shots around the rim? He's forcing Kobe to not take turn around jumpers? Making Nash not drive and dish? You're not that dumb or much of a troll to actually believe the coach makes no difference.
Talent matters so much more than coaching at the NBA level. I'd put at a 90-10 split. You give Phil the suns and ill take the Heat. We play a 10 games and I'm beating Phil at least 8/10. I agree. Like if Phil was coaching the Rockets they still wouldn't be a top 4 seed. True because they're about to be the youngest team in history to make the playoffs. Let the youngins develop a little more and add another stud then your boys north if the red river will be in trouble as clutch city returns to its championship ways. Too bad you're youngsters aren't as good as our youngsters and while they improve, so will ours. So the gap will never narrow. But I'm sure you will run down some other teams. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:21 pm | |
| The Rockets wont be winning a title in the next 5 years unless they somehow get Howard. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:24 pm | |
| No one but whatever team LeBron is on will be winning titles.
If the Rockets add Aldridge or someone on that level and keep Asik, Parsons, and add PG depth then I think that'd be enough to beat anyone in the West. Not every time but put us in the top tier. | |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:29 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- No one but whatever team LeBron is on will be winning titles.
If the Rockets add Aldridge or someone on that level and keep Asik, Parsons, and add PG depth then I think that'd be enough to beat anyone in the West. Not every time but put us in the top tier. It wouldn't even make you a top 4 team. |
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:30 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- No one but whatever team LeBron is on will be winning titles.
If the Rockets add Aldridge or someone on that level and keep Asik, Parsons, and add PG depth then I think that'd be enough to beat anyone in the West. Not every time but put us in the top tier. Well we will be here waiting for you. Step ya game up. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: 2013 NBA Discussion Thread Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:39 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- No one but whatever team LeBron is on will be winning titles.
If the Rockets add Aldridge or someone on that level and keep Asik, Parsons, and add PG depth then I think that'd be enough to beat anyone in the West. Not every time but put us in the top tier. It wouldn't even make you a top 4 team. That would make us better than any team in LA. | |
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