Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley = Robbery

I can't believe they robbed Manny.

Even though it's not fair they can kiss the 50/50 goodbye, there is no way Floyd will ever agree to that now, he'll demand 60/40.

even the judge who scored it for manny turned in a disgraceful scorecard, i scored it a 120-108 shutout.

bradleys money shot all night was the headbutt to pacquiaos left hand.

Absolutely sick to think a sport where a guy wins AT LEAST 10 rounds can lose a fight and a potential 30-35 million dollar payday because of it.

bobbitt15 wrote:

After 16 long years this is sport is officially dead to me after tonight

Fuck boxing

Bad decisions happen in MMA too you know.

In hindsight manny gave away the last 3 rounds and the first round was Bradley's 2nd was close

This was not a shutout upon 2nd watch

Ali wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

After 16 long years this is sport is officially dead to me after tonight

Fuck boxing

Bad decisions happen in MMA too you know.

But MMA is shorter and has so much more going on. No way a 12 round MMA fight is ever judged that poorly.

Birdofthad wrote:

In hindsight manny gave away the last 3 rounds and the first round was Bradley's 2nd was close

This was not a shutout upon 2nd watch

It wasnt a shutout upon 1st watch either...but it was still a dominant clear cut win for Manny.

I had one round pretty clearly going for Bradley, maybe 2 others being very close. Manny coasted the last 3 rounds but him coasting does not really mean Bradley did more. He didnt. Even when Pac was coasting he was still landing more punches and the harder punches.

In the end, Manny outlanded him my nearly 100 punches..and we all saw the power difference. I can watch this fight 100 times and only watch what Bradley was doing and still come to the conclusion that he is not on Pac's level.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Ali wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

After 16 long years this is sport is officially dead to me after tonight

Fuck boxing

Bad decisions happen in MMA too you know.

But MMA is shorter and has so much more going on. No way a 12 round MMA fight is ever judged that poorly.

you think a 3 minute, 12 round mma fight wouldn't be wacky?

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

In hindsight manny gave away the last 3 rounds and the first round was Bradley's 2nd was close

This was not a shutout upon 2nd watch

It wasnt a shutout upon 1st watch either...but it was still a dominant clear cut win for Manny.

I had one round pretty clearly going for Bradley, maybe 2 others being very close. Manny coasted the last 3 rounds but him coasting does not really mean Bradley did more. He didnt. Even when Pac was coasting he was still landing more punches and the harder punches.

In the end, Manny outlanded him my nearly 100 punches..and we all saw the power difference. I can watch this fight 100 times and only watch what Bradley was doing and still come to the conclusion that he is not on Pac's level.

agree, I had it like 9 rounds to 3 last night, had it 7 to 5 , 115-113 for Pac on 2nd watch.
I can kinda maybe get a 6-6 draw or 7-5 Bradley, maybe possibly. but not on 2 cards.

One thing is for certain though, Pac won, but he is definitely showing signs of slowing down. Mayweather starts slow (generally) and closes strong, Pacquiao is exact opposite as of late (Mosley, Marquez and Bradley)

I thought Manny looked great last night for the most part. He definitely didnt go after it enough for the finish but he looked very good. I felt he dominated and could hardly recall an instance where he was on the defensive. I think both Floyd and Manny are slowing down. However, they are clearly still the two best guys.

If i were Pac, i would make way for Amir Khan and not give Bradley the rub and pay day of an undeserving rematch. I would look to rematch Marquez again or take on somebody else while waiting for Floyd to get out of the can. Floyd Sr said earlier that Manny got cheated and Pac-Floyd is still the money matchup, maybe even more so since this thing is pretty much universally accepted as theft and Bradley is pretty much seen as the guy in the wheelchair that somehow won a decision against one of the two best fighters in the world. I think Floyd might see it the same way. Not to rip Bradley since it's not his fault, but he didnt earn this. He can go on and defend his "title" as a non draw paper champion if i were Pac.

Floyd better be careful in upcoming bouts after this, though Floyd has the luxury of being under his own promotion, so he would probably never have to worry about winning atleast 9 rounds and losing a decision. I'm starting to buy the Arum screwed Manny for an extra fight before he leaves hype. This whole things stinks like shit.

Birdofthad wrote:

In hindsight manny gave away the last 3 rounds and the first round was Bradley's 2nd was close

This was not a shutout upon 2nd watch

I had it 8-4 for Pac. Though, I could see 7-5 for Pac. That said, there were some close rounds in the middle of the fight where conventional wisdom says that the more effective puncher gets the round, so thats why I had Pac winning all the middle rounds. I gave Bradley the first and the last three, but like Bird said, the second round could have gone to Bradley too. Bad decision, but we've all seen worse.

I'm going to watch the fight again from a Russian broadcast so Lampley doesn't sway my view of the fight lol.

OU wrote:

Ali wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

and RANDALL BAILEY WON HAHAHA

BAILEY IS LIKE 45 AND THE OLD TIMER WHO HITS HARD AS SHIT but I mean, he was getting clowned by Chop Chop Corley back in like 2004 and he KOd Mike Jones in 11th after getting owned for every round

AHHHHHH RANDALL BAILEY!!!!

I bet Mike regrets picking those 8oz gloves now.

Hahah awesome.

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"I had Manny ahead, but that's fine," Kizer told the newspaper. "All I can say is I think every judge should strive to get better.

"Every fighter who loses a close fight like that wants to look at the judges."

I hate Kieth Kizer.

Ali wrote:

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"I had Manny ahead, but that's fine," Kizer told the newspaper. "All I can say is I think every judge should strive to get better.

"Every fighter who loses a close fight like that wants to look at the judges."

I hate Kieth Kizer.

Yeah this might be 1 of the worst quotes ever!!!!

Bob Arum is so full of shit.

So i just rewatched the fight and the first time i scored it 8-4 for Pac and this time I had it 7-5 for Pac, with the second round being the only round I changed. I scored rounds 1,2,10,11, and 12 for Bradley and had Pac winning rounds 3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9. The reason I think so many are outraged is that the rounds Bradley won, he won by a hair, whereas the rounds Pac won, were clearly his rounds. Also, imo, Pac won almost every middle round, so it seemed like complete domination. I also had round 9 being pretty close, but rounds 3-8 were so clearly Pac, that I can't understand how any judge scored less then 6 rounds for Pac. Also, I thought Pac shut down in rounds 10,11, and 12, which is why my scorecard was close. Bad decision, but not the worst I've seen.

One of the things going around is Bradley said right after the fight, before the results were announced "I tried to beat him and I just couldn't".

The punch stats add to what i was saying. Because Pac's rounds were so clearly his, it made the fight seem much worse then it was, in terms of scoring each round. Cant see how Pac didnt get atleast 6 rounds on two cards.

Anyone else agree PAC is clearly slipping though even though he won that fight

Birdofthad wrote:

Anyone else agree PAC is clearly slipping though even though he won that fight

Yes, Pac's lost a couple steps.

Doesn't surprise me though Pac's been fighting since he was a teenager and small fighters rarely have longevity, especially ones that are involved in battles.

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"I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson," Duane Ford said, according to the newspaper. "I thought a lot of the rounds were close. Pacquiao missed a lot of punches and I thought he was throwing wildly."