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 Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian

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Better career, Kenny vs Koscheck
Kenny Florian
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Josh Koscheck
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PostSubject: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 10:55 am

Never been Champions, but have nice top 10 wins. Who you got?
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 10:59 am

1-1 early on, just thought it was in interesting question/debate.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 11:08 am

i voted florian though my immediate thought after doing so was 'actually, it's probably koscheck'.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 11:26 am

Just realized looking at both. Kenny has no wins over any former UFC Champions. Koscheck's only win over a former Champion was a way past his prime Hughes as an injury replacement. Hard to give much weight to that. Infact Kenny only has 1 win over anyone that has even fought for the UFC title, that win is Joe Stevenson. Kenny is 1-5 vs anyone that has fought for a UFC title.

On the flip side Kos is 3-3 vs people who have fought for the UFC title. But that is kind of misleading since Diego fought for the title at LW and Kos beat him at WW. Also like mentioned he beat an old Hughes as an injury replacement and Trigg was about 4.5 years removed from his title shot by the time Kos defeated him and also no where near his prime.

Just some some numbers I crunched out of bordem.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:02 pm

Looking at who had the better wins IMO and everything else, I went Kos. Even if I like Kenny much, much more.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:09 pm

It's close but I go Kos. Already 21 UFC fights in the same amount of time as Florian who made it to 17. Kos has 3 more wins and one more loss in that additional activity. Kos has had the better career thus far and will continue his career several more years.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:31 pm

Florian. He finishes fights! He has furthered his mma career with a microphone, so it wad an easy pick for me. Did i just cheat?
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bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
Florian. He finishes fights! He has furthered his mma career with a microphone, so it wad an easy pick for me. Did i just cheat?
Interesting enough, Kos and Kenny have both been finished(not dec) twice in their careers. Kos has 10(9 in UFC) finishes to his name and Kenny has 12(10 in the UFC).
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:46 pm

Diego Sanchez, below these guys or on par?
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:32 pm

1. Kenny Florian
2. Josh Koscheck
3. Diego Sanchez
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:45 pm

freakzilla wrote:
1. Kenny Florian
2. Josh Koscheck
3. Diego Sanchez
Sorry but personally I think Diego might be over Kenny. I always thought he would still win any rematch if they fought again, WW or LW.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:47 pm

OU wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
1. Kenny Florian
2. Josh Koscheck
3. Diego Sanchez
Sorry but personally I think Diego might be over Kenny. I always thought he would still win any rematch if they fought again, WW or LW.

Head to head I'd take Sanchez but I thought the question was who had the better career.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:50 pm

At this point I think Kenny has had the better career than Sanchez.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Some #s


Kenny
11-6
4 weight classes
Best Wins: Joe Lauzon, Clay Guida, Takanori Gomi (past his prime), Diego Nunes
Losses: TUF Finale not in his true weight class, 3 title fights, & #1 contender fight
Awards: 1 FotN, 1 SofN
Known for finishing fights, hellbows, and losing title fights

Kos
15-6
2 weight classes
Best Wins: Diego Sanchez, Chris Lytle, Paul Daley, Matt Hughes (end of his career)
Losses: 2 vs GSP (1 being a title fight) and 4 others.
Awards: 2 FotN, 2 KofN, 1 SofN
Known for being a prick, plus wrestler, and good power.

Before looking at the # my gut told me Kos, but in all actuality I might have to go with Florian. He's 10-3 at his correct weight (155) with losses to BJ, Gray, & Sean. He didn't get dominated in any of them either. I am torn!!!! Both are above Deigo in my mind. I'm going to go ahead and vote Kos for longevity and fighting more frequently.
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1. Kenny Florian
2. Josh Koscheck
3. Diego Sanchez
Sorry but personally I think Diego might be over Kenny. I always thought he would still win any rematch if they fought again, WW or LW.

Head to head I'd take Sanchez but I thought the question was who had the better career.
Yeah head to head isn't really a factor, just saying. I just think Diego was the better fighter. He has the better wins IMO, however I don't think he actually won some of those so I'm not counting the Kamp and Diaz fights. But even without those his wins hold up to Kenny's IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian   Who has had the better career, Koscheck vs Florian EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:55 pm

OU wrote:
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1. Kenny Florian
2. Josh Koscheck
3. Diego Sanchez
Sorry but personally I think Diego might be over Kenny. I always thought he would still win any rematch if they fought again, WW or LW.

Head to head I'd take Sanchez but I thought the question was who had the better career.
Yeah head to head isn't really a factor, just saying. I just think Diego was the better fighter. He has the better wins IMO, however I don't think he actually won some of those so I'm not counting the Kamp and Diaz fights. But even without those his wins hold up to Kenny's IMO.

It's very close. I wouldn't argue either way.
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