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PostSubject: TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee....   TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee.... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 10:38 pm

But given that every fight but one is at 145 or 155, this could end up being the most action packed card of all time. Just sayin.



Main Card:

Jake Ellenberger (171) vs. Martin Kampmann (170)
Michael Chiesa (156) vs. Al Iaquinta (155)
Jonathan Brookins (146) vs. Charles Oliveira (144)
Max Holloway (145) vs. Pat Schilling (145)
Justin Lawrence (155) vs. John Cofer (155)

Preliminary Card:
Daron Cruickshank (155) vs. Chris Tickle (154)
Myles Jury (155) vs. Chris Saunders (156)
Cristiano Marcello (156) vs. Sam Sicilia (155)
Jeremy Larsen (155) vs. Joe Proctor (156)
John Albert (136) vs. Erik Perez (134)
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PostSubject: Re: TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee....   TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee.... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 10:45 pm

But really this card will be very different for most fighters. The finalists just fought last week and they along with everyone else will of had a camp that is strictly made up of what ever they did for the show. Will their home team come corner them on a weeks notice or will Faber and Cruz's team corner certain fighters?
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PostSubject: Re: TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee....   TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee.... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 11:28 pm

Anyone wanna sig bet on Jonathan Brookins (146) vs. Charles Oliveira (144)? I got Charles!
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Not gonna find many takers with a scrub like Brookins.
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PostSubject: Re: TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee....   TUF Live Fianle: Not a Guarantee.... EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 7:40 am

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Not gonna find many takers with a scrub like Brookins.

I know this is your TUF hater schtick, but its a pretty close fight in the betting world.

Charles Oliveira -130
Jonathan Brookins EV


A little shocked how close the main event is. I figured Ellenberger would be a much bigger favorite.

Jake Ellenberger -160
Martin Kampmann +130

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Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann. I like both fighters, but I want Jake to win since he is closer to title contention.
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I think Ellenberger should win. Kampmann got a dramatic win last time out but generally because he was getting styled on for a large portion of that fight and came back to finish. He also should of won against Diaz but the fact it was close enough to lead to that decision isn't good. I think Ellenberger will be too much for him.
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Farmer1906 wrote:
KingsOwn19 wrote:
Not gonna find many takers with a scrub like Brookins.

I know this is your TUF hater schtick, but its a pretty close fight in the betting world.

Charles Oliveira -130
Jonathan Brookins EV


A little shocked how close the main event is. I figured Ellenberger would be a much bigger favorite.

Jake Ellenberger -160
Martin Kampmann +130


They learned their lesson when they gave Ellenberger a BJ Penn level edge in the odds against Sanchez and it turned out that Ellenberger really wasnt a whole lot better than Diego..and i think he would have lost if the fight was 5 rounds like i thought it would be when i picked Diego to win. Kampmann is considered better than Diego by most. I think the line is pretty good there.
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So do I, but not for the Oilivera fight, Brookins is a bigger underdog imo.
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jewzilla wrote:
Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann. I like both fighters, but I want Jake to win since he is closer to title contention.

I think Jake is going to win too, but I got a funny feeling about Kampmann. Wanna sig bet? 1 week.
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Farmer1906 wrote:
jewzilla wrote:
Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann. I like both fighters, but I want Jake to win since he is closer to title contention.

I think Jake is going to win too, but I got a funny feeling about Kampmann. Wanna sig bet? 1 week.

Lets do it.

I got Jake you got Martin?
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jewzilla wrote:
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jewzilla wrote:
Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann. I like both fighters, but I want Jake to win since he is closer to title contention.

I think Jake is going to win too, but I got a funny feeling about Kampmann. Wanna sig bet? 1 week.

Lets do it.

I got Jake you got Martin?

Martin since you said "Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann".
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Farmer1906 wrote:
jewzilla wrote:
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jewzilla wrote:
Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann. I like both fighters, but I want Jake to win since he is closer to title contention.

I think Jake is going to win too, but I got a funny feeling about Kampmann. Wanna sig bet? 1 week.

Lets do it.

I got Jake you got Martin?

Martin since you said "Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann".

Just making sure. When I say spank I mean "win". Dont know why I was negged for that. Sorry for being a fan.
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jewzilla wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
jewzilla wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
jewzilla wrote:
Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann. I like both fighters, but I want Jake to win since he is closer to title contention.

I think Jake is going to win too, but I got a funny feeling about Kampmann. Wanna sig bet? 1 week.

Lets do it.

I got Jake you got Martin?

Martin since you said "Ellenberger is going to spank Kmann".

Just making sure. When I say spank I mean "win". Dont know why I was negged for that. Sorry for being a fan.

Don't worry about negging. It doesn't really mean anything.
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Are we still saying Ellenberger isn't "alot better" than Diego? We always knew Diego was a strong top position grappler who doesn't gas out. But to act like the fight was anything near close in the first two rounds and most of the third is ridiculous. Diego landed 18 strikes in the first ten minutes of the fight. He literally was 18 of 75 through two rounds.
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All finishes so far. Looks like I might be right. Most action packed MMA card in all of historly.
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WTF kind of stoppage was that?!?!?
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WTF kind of stoppage was that?!?!?

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Just an FYI John Albert will get his win bonus after the ridiculous stoppage by Winslow. Always cleaning up after bad reffin.

Winslow needs to be fired!
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Farmer1906 wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
WTF kind of stoppage was that?!?!?

Dana White ‏@danawhite
Just an FYI John Albert will get his win bonus after the ridiculous stoppage by Winslow. Always cleaning up after bad reffin.

Winslow needs to be fired!


True. Im for equal opporunity in some cases, and this is not one of them. She has zero business in the cage, and its not cause she is a woman, rather than she is bad at what she does.
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Lawrence gets way too much hype. Its like CB Dollaway all over again, but at least CB made the finals.


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Well lawrence landed the big one, but I still don't believe the hype.



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Just got home, just started watching the recording of this.
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And now the real fights start. Oliveria and Brookins have a very good 1st. 1-0 Bronx.
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Wow Justin Lawrence.
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Tapout and Oliveria gets the W. He's going to be a contender at FW. 2-0 in the weight class with 2 subs. He needs a bigger name like a Nunes or maybe Kooch after he gets wrecked.
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