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Funny, in a living room with 12 mma fans, h core to casual with even one first timer, and not one single fuck was given.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptySun May 27, 2012 3:37 pm

As soon as I saw Brock chatting to Dana I had a bad feeling he'd be wanting a comeback.
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Good for Brock. Even if he isn't/never was the best HW around, he is still an exciting fighter and a big draw. Do this correctly. Give him a tune up fight against a solid HW. Stefan Struve, Roy Nelson, Bigfoot, Gonzaga, Lavar, Rothwell, Hunt etc. You could always do Mir vs Brock 3. None of those would be bad fights. Don't give him Cormier, Cain, JDS, Barnett or Carwin. Those are not the fights he needs.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptySun May 27, 2012 9:28 pm

I want Lesnar v Nelson. Probably hard to sell Nelson in a main event though.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptySun May 27, 2012 11:55 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
Good for Brock. Even if he isn't/never was the best HW around, he is still an exciting fighter and a big draw. Do this correctly. Give him a tune up fight against a solid HW. Stefan Struve, Roy Nelson, Bigfoot, Gonzaga, Lavar, Rothwell, Hunt etc. You could always do Mir vs Brock 3. None of those would be bad fights. Don't give him Cormier, Cain, JDS, Barnett or Carwin. Those are not the fights he needs.


Wolf you are right.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:17 am

Nelson vs Lesnar would be an awesome PPV. Nelson has a particular fanbase and while some people can't get over the belly, he has enough KO's by now I think to be an intriguing match up even for doubters. The fight would have a certain WWE flare to it. I wanna see it.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:33 am

Also, when did JDS leave farmer?
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:58 am

I think your right wolf, only way we get Brock back on this train is feed him some stiffs, kinda like Tyson post prison where he got Peter McNeeley (and 1.2 million ppv buys fuckingHILARIOUS), followed by Bruce Seldon and Frank Bruno.

in honesty it is clear Heath Herring was past his prime and no longer close to being a threat when Brock smashed him and it was huge in boosting Brocks confidence
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 1:05 am

Brock needs a mid level guy. There are no easy fights in the UFC amirite? That said, give the man an easy one. Fighting Mir, Carwin, Cain and Overeem is no easy task. He can have a tune up. His confidence, brand, skillset and career would be very much benefited by it.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 1:23 am

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Brock needs a mid level guy. There are no easy fights in the UFC amirite? That said, give the man an easy one. Fighting Mir, Carwin, Cain and Overeem is no easy task. He can have a tune up. His confidence, brand, skillset and career would be very much benefited by it.

the fact that Brock clearly doesn't have a chin is a huge problem when you are competing in the UFC heavyweight division. It means virtually anyone with good stand up can get you at any time. I think Brock gets smashed by most of the top 15, right now USA today has him ranked #22 and I think thats about right.

IMO he needs to work his way up the ladder but that won't happen. If the UFC was smart they would realize the best thing for their brand is Brock coming back and getting wins. They need to build him up with at least 2 reasonable fights (and by reasonable I mean no one in the top 5 of the division and probably like 10-15 material for his first fight and 8-15 for his second fight.

Biggest thing and smartest thing Dana can do is open his wallet for a 1 time deal with Fedor, work something out with Vince McMahon, get Fedor vs Brock, let Brock kill the old version of Fedor, take care of his WWE contract and come back to UFC in special bouts like Hulk Hogan. At the end of the day thats what Brock wants, he wants to fight and compete, but he doesn't want to jump through all the hoops. I know that will never happen but it would be smart.

In reality, if he comes back. Expect him vs Mir 3.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 2:20 am

Old Fedor kills Old Brock. Sorry. Don't care about the Silva fight. One right hand homie.
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Old Fedor kills Old Brock. Sorry. Don't care about the Silva fight. One right hand homie.

I think we would see Brock wrestle fuck Fedor and bust him up ala Big Foot.
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trust me I don't like saying that though
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Brock aint Bigfoot. Don't care that fight.
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i think he was only considering it if Mir got the strap.
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KingsOwn19 wrote:
i think he was only considering it if Mir got the strap.

That's what I was thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 3:31 am

I think its the only big time fight they can push (Mir coming off title challenge) vs Lesnar (former Champ) in their rubber match
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 3:39 am

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i think he was only considering it if Mir got the strap.
Then successfully defended against Cain? Brock wouldn't have gotten an immediate shot and I don't think he wants anymore of Cain.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 5:23 am

Brock wasn't gonna leapfrog 3 other dudes coming off two bad losses. The PPV dollars aren't there for the WWE I heard at the press conference. Lesnar knows he can still win some fights against solid UFC HW's. No reason to not fight.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:20 pm

Former UFC Heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar
was a very visible member of the audience at UFC 146. UFC president
Dana White told reporters at the post-fight press conference he would be
meeting with Lesnar face-to-face later that night and that "anything
(was) possible."

Well the cold water is already being poured on that parade. Dave Meltzer reported the following at the Wrestling Observer:


Brock Lesnar and Dana White met last night. We don't have any
details other than the meeting did not go well. If Lesnar being at UFC
is mentioned on Raw, then I'd guess it's WWE angle. If it's not, then
it's anyone's guess what the game being played is, other than there is a
game being played.

Sergio Hernandez offered some analysis of the cryptic Meltzer over at Cageside Seats:


It's unclear what (Meltzer) means by that. Perhaps the aforementioned
theory is true and Lesnar plus Vince McMahon is simply using the UFC.

Or maybe Dana White -- who has had meetings with McMahon in the past -- is helping an old friend with his new gig?

In a conversation on Twitter, my Cageside colleague Geno Mrosko said
if anything which occurred last night in Las Vegas is mentioned tomorrow
night on Raw, it will confirm everyone is playing their part in a
well-orchestrated ruse.

Brock Lesnar has apparently parlayed his high profile with casual
fans into yet another stint as the roadrunner to Dana White's coyote.
Not bad for a guy whose last two fights in the UFC were anything but
spectacular performances.

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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:23 pm

I tend to think ruse. Brock isn't coming back and he especially isn't going to come back to fight and most likely lose/be embarrassed by a mid level UFC HW. All posture and fluff for marketing to little kids and WWE fanboys here.
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Possibly, but Lesnar hasn't been performing well with PPV buyers I heard in the WWE. And he is a competitive guy. Who else wrestles in college, plays in the NFL and then joins the UFC at 30? He probably asked for money White wasn't interested in paying.

You know my stance on Lesnar, but there are a lot of winnable fights for him around.
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PostSubject: Re: The return of the greatest HW of all time!   The return of the greatest HW of all time! EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:55 pm

Scrap Big Nog vs. Kongo and make Brock vs. Big Nog.
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Brock vs Big Nog would be a fun fight.
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