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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:38 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- You can still argue Bosh with a couple of the guys on your top 15 but it really doesnt matter.
Ok, in your opinion which one can you argue he is better then? Cause I would argue that you could add KG to list of better then Bosh. Also Josh Smith could be argued as better. KG of 3 years ago maybe but not this KG now and Josh Smith isnt consistant enough in my opinion. I think u could argue Bosh is better than Gasol and Tony Parker( although they are very close u can argue it). | |
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:46 am | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- OU wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- You can still argue Bosh with a couple of the guys on your top 15 but it really doesnt matter.
Ok, in your opinion which one can you argue he is better then? Cause I would argue that you could add KG to list of better then Bosh. Also Josh Smith could be argued as better.
KG of 3 years ago maybe but not this KG now and Josh Smith isnt consistant enough in my opinion. I think u could argue Bosh is better than Gasol and Tony Parker( although they are very close u can argue it). Tony Parker was a legit MVP candidate this season. I think he scored 20 in 1 quarter vs OKC last series. I'm sorry but you are insane if you think Bosh is even close to Parker. You could argue Parker over Westbrook and Rondo, you could argue Parker as a top 5 player in the NBA the way he played this season. Did you see KG's numbers for these playoffs? Still pretty damn productive. Also Gasol is far more talented offensively then Bosh. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:51 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- OU wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- You can still argue Bosh with a couple of the guys on your top 15 but it really doesnt matter.
Ok, in your opinion which one can you argue he is better then? Cause I would argue that you could add KG to list of better then Bosh. Also Josh Smith could be argued as better.
KG of 3 years ago maybe but not this KG now and Josh Smith isnt consistant enough in my opinion. I think u could argue Bosh is better than Gasol and Tony Parker( although they are very close u can argue it). Tony Parker was a legit MVP candidate this season. I think he scored 20 in 1 quarter vs OKC last series. I'm sorry but you are insane if you think Bosh is even close to Parker. You could argue Parker over Westbrook and Rondo, you could argue Parker as a top 5 player in the NBA the way he played this season. Did you see KG's numbers for these playoffs? Still pretty damn productive. Also Gasol is far more talented offensively then Bosh. KG was productive yes but I think overall Bosh is better. As for Gasol Im with you he is good but I dont think he is far more talented than Bosh. Thats why i say Bosh is in the arguement in my opinion. If he isnt to you thats your opinion. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:51 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- OU wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- You can still argue Bosh with a couple of the guys on your top 15 but it really doesnt matter.
Ok, in your opinion which one can you argue he is better then? Cause I would argue that you could add KG to list of better then Bosh. Also Josh Smith could be argued as better.
KG of 3 years ago maybe but not this KG now and Josh Smith isnt consistant enough in my opinion. I think u could argue Bosh is better than Gasol and Tony Parker( although they are very close u can argue it). Tony Parker was a legit MVP candidate this season. I think he scored 20 in 1 quarter vs OKC last series. I'm sorry but you are insane if you think Bosh is even close to Parker. You could argue Parker over Westbrook and Rondo, you could argue Parker as a top 5 player in the NBA the way he played this season. Did you see KG's numbers for these playoffs? Still pretty damn productive. Also Gasol is far more talented offensively then Bosh. Maybe the Gasol of a few years ago, but not Gasol of last year. He has a career low in points and even dipped quite a bit in FG%. Bosh however has to to share the rock with LeBron and Wade so he doesn't get the touches he needs to put up major stats. I think the Heat would be in a much better place if they trade Wade for Tyson Chandler & Steve Novak. A pure 3 point specialists to knock down open shots created by Bron & Bosh & one of NBA's best true bigs. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:39 pm | |
| So me and Farmer kinda agree on this 1 although Im not sure I would trade D-Wade although I do think the Heat could definitely use a legit big man and another pure shooter. To be honest though I think Wade is slowing down alittle and it maybe a smart move to shop him alittle now and see who may bite. He has alot of wear and tear on his body and is starting to get little nagging injuries alot and you know what that leads too.....bigger more serious injuries. Damn so maybe I would trade wade lol. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:41 pm | |
| I just want to be clear. D-Wade is a complete badass, but he's not LeBron and his sty;e doesn't mesh well with LeBron. 2 years together and they don't play as a team. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:43 pm | |
| No I agree with you he is still a great player but with injuries and the fact they dont play well together ALL the time a move may make some sense. Or at least listen to some offers behind the scenes. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:33 am | |
| KG>Bosh. Then, now, 10 years form now. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:37 am | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- KG>Bosh. Then, now, 10 years form now.
I agree. Also no one in their right mind can look at the 20 players I listed and put Bosh ahead of 15 of them. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:44 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- KG>Bosh. Then, now, 10 years form now.
I agree. Also no one in their right mind can look at the 20 players I listed and put Bosh ahead of 15 of them. He only needs to be ahead of 5 of them. I said top 15 not top 5 my friend. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:45 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- KG>Bosh. Then, now, 10 years form now.
I agree except for right now. Bosh is just as good. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:48 pm | |
| I bet if Riley had the option to do so he would cut Bosh right this second for 36 year old KG to take his place. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- I bet if Riley had the option to do so he would cut Bosh right this second for 36 year old KG to take his place.
I dont believe that but KG would really help the Heat with the defense he plays. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:57 pm | |
| You get similar points and minutes per game output, but better rebounding, assists, steals, blocks, ft%, fg%, leadership and savvy, today. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Spurs or Thunder? Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:50 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- You get similar points and minutes per game output, but better rebounding, assists, steals, blocks, ft%, fg%, leadership and savvy, today.
I disagree. | |
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