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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:16 pm | |
| This entire Treyvon Martin case since the beginning has been a concerted effort to drive wedges in between the races in this country. Where the fuck was this a month ago? This whole thing is disgusting. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:24 pm | |
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| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:32 pm | |
| Whatever the circumstances of the case are doesn't change the fact evidence has been withheld from the public domain which would have diffused much of the anger, that the media has distorted and edited the tapes, that they've exploited both races to the point of violent anger.
What facts change this? You're missing the point. It isn't about some dumb punk thug or some asshole busy body neighborhood watch, its about the government and media driving wedges and fabricating anger. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:34 pm | |
| BOOM goes the dynamite... Well played. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:40 pm | |
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| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:46 pm | |
| There are only 4 facts that matter in regards to the stalking, which is the premises for the subsequent charges.
1. Martin was in a public place observing the law (verified by Zimmerman) 2. Zimmerman was following Martin and caused him to flee (verified by Zimmerman) 3. Zimmerman continued to follow Martin even after he fled (verified by Zimmerman) 4. Martin had reasonable cause to fear for his safety (Evidenced by Martin's conversation with girlfriend and supported by the fact that Zimmerman had a firearm and was following Martin)
At that point Zimmerman was guilty of harassment or stalking.
The result of that criminal action whether direct or indirect was that Trayvon Martin ended up dead. This could mean that Zimmerman is guilty of criminally negligent homicide.
It does not matter what the past of the 2 people were, and even with the release of evidence on Martin which presents him as a less than stellar individual, Zimmerman's history still points to more violence than Martin's. It wouldn't matter if Trayvon Martin had just been released from a juvenile detention center where he had been incarcerated for violent gang related activity. Zimmerman would have had no way of knowing that since he didn't know anything about the person he was following, and Martin was not doing anything illegal at the time.
Whether or not media outlets or organizations are pushing an agenda doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman acted in an aggressive and illegal manner, and the eventual result of those illegal actions was the death of a minor. | |
| | | Ninja Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone with the last name Rua or Emelianenko and Uncle Creepy Posts : 3831 Join date : 2009-07-15
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:56 pm | |
| I knew it was out of control when they started calling Zimmerman a *White*-Hispanic Ameica. What a joke. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:59 pm | |
| Your AV is too wide and fucking with my sig. Fix it before I have to. | |
| | | Ninja Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone with the last name Rua or Emelianenko and Uncle Creepy Posts : 3831 Join date : 2009-07-15
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:01 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- Your AV is too wide and fucking with my sig. Fix it before I have to.
I hope you mean GNP. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:04 pm | |
| - Ninja wrote:
- OU wrote:
- Your AV is too wide and fucking with my sig. Fix it before I have to.
I hope you mean GNP. Naw I'm talking about Wolf's AV being about 4x wider then everyone else's in this thread. Which effects the layout of the entire thread. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:21 pm | |
| No one is guilty.
Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch guy in a gated community. He saw a suspicious teenager. The kid fled. He had reason to assume he was fleeing for a reason. Misunderstanding. Then I believe the witnesses corroborate the idea that Martin attacked Zimmerman because he feared for his safety, Zimmerman fired back after his LIFE WAS IN DANGER. And we have a dead kid.
Since then this tragic misunderstanding has been used to divide a nation.
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| | | SOKO Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Dragon, Kenflo, Hendo, Guida, Ace, Wand, Cain, Carwin, Foreman, Evander, Oscar Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 43 Location : atlanta
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:34 pm | |
| zimmerman was told by the cops to stop following. He didnt listen and thats a wrap. Thats my main issue.....whatever really happened god knows. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:10 pm | |
| That is true, but it isn't legal binding instructions either. Joe Horn was also told not to go outside and smoke those two robbers in texas and he sure as fuck did and got away with it. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:15 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- That is true, but it isn't legal binding instructions either. Joe Horn was also told not to go outside and smoke those two robbers in texas and he sure as fuck did and got away with it.
If they were minors it could have been different. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:18 pm | |
| Those men had previous convictions and 1 of them was even going by an alias. Known criminals, one of them was even going by an alias. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:31 pm | |
| No way for horn to know that. Zimmerman confronted a suspicious guy who ran off, then got attacked, and shot him. cut and dry case here and would have been from the beginning if this whole thing wasn't being used as a tool to polarize whites and blacks. Its some seriously devious shit going on. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:41 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- No way for horn to know that. Zimmerman confronted a suspicious guy who ran off, then got attacked, and shot him. cut and dry case here and would have been from the beginning if this whole thing wasn't being used as a tool to polarize whites and blacks. Its some seriously devious shit going on.
Doesn't matter too much IMO what they knew at the time. I'm talking about people's reaction looking back at it. Horn killed 2 convicted criminals that were in their 30s. If they ended up being a pair of 17 year olds that were still in High School, could have been a different situation. If you remember correctly there were groups that tried to protest against Horn. He just had his own group of supporters on his side. But if they were minors, it could have easily changed how that thing played out. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| Your AV is too long. 2nd warning. | |
| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:55 pm | |
| I agree with GDP, Zimmerman should have backed off when it was clear he was getting the fuck out of there. To my knowledge there was no reason to actually want to capture Martin the goal was to get him out of the neighborhood, so if he's clearly leaving Zimmerman should have backed off and by not he created the situation. Somebody is following me with a gun while im attempting to make my way out..i might respond the same way.
However, i do agree the media coverage has been completely shameful. I think NBC already got busted for editing tapes to suit their agenda of making Zimmerman look like a monster and Martin an unsuspecting little lamb. Also, it's mighty convenient that this becomes the huge story in the midde of the republican primaries with the intent of causing a guilt trip over racism against black right when the african american president is up for re election. I remember watching MSNBC during one of the caucases but all they talked about was this, making sure to blame it on republicans and racism even though we don't know if even racism played a part. Somehow a young black male getting shot without an arrest FINALLY makes the news and becomes the biggest story in the world, so long as it's not it a slum or not another black person doing the shooting. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:00 pm | |
| Whos av is too long? I know you aint talking to me OU. Listen to this guy | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:22 pm | |
| The media wanted a story and stirred up a race war in FL. This was complete BS from the start. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:44 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Whos av is too long? I know you aint talking to me OU. Listen to this guy
It was too long, it bothered me. You aren't around enough to matter anyways. It effects me more then it effects you. So I did what needed to be done. Next time don't have an AV that is 3x as long as everyone elses and causing the text box to shift to the right. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:25 am | |
| Im just gonna put it back. Suck my dick dude. I donno who the fuck you think you are. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: It has all been a scam Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:28 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Im just gonna put it back. Suck my dick dude. I donno who the fuck you think you are.
your worst nightmare. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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