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PostSubject: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 7:50 pm

Alexander Gustafsson
Thiago Silva
Brian Stann
Alessio Sakara
Siyar Bahadurzada
Paulo Thiago
Diego Nunes
Dennis Siver

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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 8:01 pm

Alexander Gustafsson vs. Lyoto Machida
Thiago Silva vs. Rampage or Lil Nog
Brian Stann vs. Yushin Okami
Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Rick Story
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 8:03 pm

Alexander Gustafsson: Ryan Bader or Shogun
Thiago Silva: Stephan Bonnar
Brian Stann: Chris Weidman
Alessio Sakara: Retirement
Siyar Bahadurzada: Martin Kampmann
Paulo Thiago: Thiago Alves
Diego Nunes: Chad Mendes
Dennis Siver: Mark Hominick
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 8:26 pm

Machida is 1-4 in his last 5 fights coming off a loss. I don't want to see him against Gus at all.


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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 8:42 pm

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Machida is 1-4 in his last 5 fights coming off a loss. I don't want to see him again Gus at all.

That didn't stop them trying to make Hendo vs. Machida. Despite his recent form Machida is still an elite LHW.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 9:00 pm

Losing to an up and coming fighter after such a skid would pretty much guaranteed to get him cut from the UFC. I'd like to see him in a less risky fight until he stops sliding.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 9:20 pm

Gus- Bader or Lil Nog
Thiago Silva- Rampage, Janitor, loser of Igor Pokrajac/Fabio Maldonado.
Brian Stann- Okami, Ed Herman, Ronny Markes
Dennis Siver- Iuri Alcantara/Koch

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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 9:27 pm

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Machida is 1-4 in his last 5 fights coming off a loss. I don't want to see him again Gus at all.

That didn't stop them trying to make Hendo vs. Machida. Despite his recent form Machida is still an elite LHW.

I think machida is losing his elite status. Hes living off that rashad win. Outside of that he's beaten thiago old man couture and Tito.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 11:49 pm

Wasn't Thiago V Rampage supposed to happen before Silva got popped, that would be a war.

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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySat Apr 14, 2012 11:56 pm

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Wasn't Thiago V Rampage supposed to happen before Silva got popped, that would be a war.



I agree. Rampage vs Thiago would equal fireworks.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 12:33 am

Rampage can't war anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 10:43 am

Farmer1906 wrote:
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Machida is 1-4 in his last 5 fights coming off a loss. I don't want to see him again Gus at all.

That didn't stop them trying to make Hendo vs. Machida. Despite his recent form Machida is still an elite LHW.

I think machida is losing his elite status. Hes living off that rashad win. Outside of that he's beaten thiago old man couture and Tito.

Machida's only definitive loses came at the hands of Bones and Rua, those are nothing to be ashamed of. And Machida is the only person who's even come close to winning a round against Jon.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 10:57 am

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Machida is 1-4 in his last 5 fights coming off a loss. I don't want to see him again Gus at all.

That didn't stop them trying to make Hendo vs. Machida. Despite his recent form Machida is still an elite LHW.

I think machida is losing his elite status. Hes living off that rashad win. Outside of that he's beaten thiago old man couture and Tito.

Machida's only definitive loses came at the hands of Bones and Rua, those are nothing to be ashamed of. And Machida is the only person who's even come close to winning a round against Jon.

When you say oh he only had 2 real losses and then should be another 2 in a 5 fight window then it looks pretty bad.

Oh and Bonnar won a round vs Jones.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 12:03 pm

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Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 12:13 pm

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Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.

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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 1:49 pm

Bonnar won a round against Jones after being thrown around like a ragdoll and beaten into a living death with such severity that Jones gassed out(likely to do with the suplex slams). Bonnar just happens to be ultra durable otherwise Bones probably would have finished him that fight(Bonnar has been stopped only twice, both due to cuts rather than being unable to defend himself/knocked out/submitted).
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 1:54 pm

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Bonnar won a round against Jones after being thrown around like a ragdoll and beaten into a living death with such severity that Jones gassed out(likely to do with the suplex slams). Bonnar just happens to be ultra durable otherwise Bones probably would have finished him that fight(Bonnar has been stopped only twice, both due to cuts rather than being unable to defend himself/knocked out/submitted).

Don't disagree, but my statement is still true.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:33 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
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Bonnar won a round against Jones after being thrown around like a ragdoll and beaten into a living death with such severity that Jones gassed out(likely to do with the suplex slams). Bonnar just happens to be ultra durable otherwise Bones probably would have finished him that fight(Bonnar has been stopped only twice, both due to cuts rather than being unable to defend himself/knocked out/submitted).

Don't disagree, but my statement is still true.

Your statement is true in the same sense that saying Matt Hamill is the only man to have beaten Jon Jones in MMA.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:41 pm

Ludo wrote:
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Bonnar won a round against Jones after being thrown around like a ragdoll and beaten into a living death with such severity that Jones gassed out(likely to do with the suplex slams). Bonnar just happens to be ultra durable otherwise Bones probably would have finished him that fight(Bonnar has been stopped only twice, both due to cuts rather than being unable to defend himself/knocked out/submitted).

Don't disagree, but my statement is still true.

Your statement is true in the same sense that saying Matt Hamill is the only man to have beaten Jon Jones in MMA.

No Stephan Bonnar actually won the round. He outperformed Bones for a 5 min period. 2 out of 3 judges said so. That is what Ali was referring to with Machida doing/ almost doing. This has no relevance or symmetry to the Hamill/Jones fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:43 pm

timthebim wrote:
Ludo wrote:
Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.

Rampage vs. Thiago Silva, Stephan Bonnar, Lil Nog, Shogun and Forrest Griffin.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:45 pm

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Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.

Rampage vs. Thiago Silva, Stephan Bonnar, Lil Nog, Shogun and Forrest Griffin.

We already saw what happens versus Griffin. A good fight, but Page wasn't "waring".
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:48 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
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Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.

Rampage vs. Thiago Silva, Stephan Bonnar, Lil Nog, Shogun and Forrest Griffin.

We already saw what happens versus Griffin. A good fight, but Page wasn't "waring".

Forrest has declined since then.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:51 pm

Ali wrote:
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timthebim wrote:
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Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.

Rampage vs. Thiago Silva, Stephan Bonnar, Lil Nog, Shogun and Forrest Griffin.

We already saw what happens versus Griffin. A good fight, but Page wasn't "waring".

Forrest has declined since then.

So has Page.
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 2:55 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
Ali wrote:
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Ali wrote:
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Rampage can't war anymore.


Against the right guy I think he could.

Rampage vs. Thiago Silva, Stephan Bonnar, Lil Nog, Shogun and Forrest Griffin.

We already saw what happens versus Griffin. A good fight, but Page wasn't "waring".

Forrest has declined since then.

So has Page.

Two faded stars = WAR
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PostSubject: Re: Fights to make next ?   Fights to make next ? EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 10:42 pm

Silva won't be moving laterally and you know Rampage will come straight forward, that is the fight to make, both coming off losses, make Bonnar V Gus as well, since the LHW title is tied up until at least August with Henderson getting the winner on the 21st
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