UFC 146.......

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Hot damn

Junior Dos Santos vs. Alistair Overeem
Cain Velasquez vs. Frank Mir
Antonio Silva vs. Roy Nelson
Dan Hardy vs. Duane Ludwig
Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Shane Del Rosario
C.B Dollaway vs. Jason Miller

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:13 am

Has there ever been a time in the weight class era where #1 vs #2 and #3 vs #4 fought on the same card?

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How is Mir number 4? Werdum should be ranked ahead of him.

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freakzilla wrote:: How is Mir number 4? Werdum should be ranked ahead of him.

Because he's Lord Fransico Mir IV

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:57 am

Ok so arguably #4.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings
Mir is #4 here

http://www.mmaweekly.com/heavyweight-division-265-pound-limit-mma-top-10
Mir is #5 here

http://espn.go.com/mma/rankings/_/class/heavyweight
#4 here

http://www.fightmagazine.com/mma-rankings/
#5 here

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/02/mma-top-10-heavyweights-alistair-overeem-moves-to-no-2
#4 here

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We don't see much stacked cards like this anymore.

Pride Shockwave 2004

Ikuhisa Minowa defeats Stefan Leko by submission (Heel Hook) at 0:27 of Round 1.

Mu Bae Choi defeats Paulo Cesar Silva by submission due to an arm triangle choke at 5:47 of Round 1.

Ryan Gracie defeats Yoji Anjo by submission due to an armbar at 8:33 of Round 1.

Ryo Chonan defeats Anderson Silva by submission due to a flying scissor heel hook at 3:08 of Round 3.

Makoto Takimoto defeats Henry Miller by decision.

Rulon Gardner (wrestling) defeats Hidehiko Yoshida (judo) by unanimous decision.

Mirko Filipovic (3HW) defeats Kevin Randleman via guillitine choke.

Dan Henderson (5LHW) defeats Yuki Kondo (10LHW) by split decision.

Takanori Gomi (3LW) defeats Jens Pulver (4LW) by knockout at 6:21 of Round 1.

Mark Hunt defeats Wanderlei Silva (1LHW) by split decision.

Fedor Emelianenko (1HW) defeats Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (2HW) by decision.

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OU wrote:: Ok so arguably #4.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings
Mir is #4 here

http://www.mmaweekly.com/heavyweight-division-265-pound-limit-mma-top-10
Mir is #5 here

http://espn.go.com/mma/rankings/_/class/heavyweight
#4 here

http://www.fightmagazine.com/mma-rankings/
#5 here

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/02/mma-top-10-heavyweights-alistair-overeem-moves-to-no-2
#4 here

You forgot the most important rankings-

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t14966-official-ninja-s-place-top-10-divisional-rankings-9-9-11

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:20 am

Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

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OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

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freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

Carwin did destroy Mir.

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:28 am

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

He is still coming off back to back losses and who knows when/if he will fight again. Doubt Mir ends up behind him in the rankings.

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Ali wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

Carwin did destroy Mir.

That's why I said he still would.

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OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

He is still coming off back to back losses and who knows when/if he will fight again. Doubt Mir ends up behind him in the rankings.

The losses were to JDS and Brock. A fighter Mir got destroyed by and another who would destroy him.

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:45 am

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

He is still coming off back to back losses and who knows when/if he will fight again. Doubt Mir ends up behind him in the rankings.

The losses were to JDS and Brock. A fighter Mir got destroyed by and another who would destroy him.

I'm not debating what I think should happen. I'm telling you what will happen.

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OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

He is still coming off back to back losses and who knows when/if he will fight again. Doubt Mir ends up behind him in the rankings.

The losses were to JDS and Brock. A fighter Mir got destroyed by and another who would destroy him.

I'm not debating what I think should happen. I'm telling you what will happen.

Do you currently have Carwin or Mir higher?

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:15 pm

I would rank Mir over Carwin right now. Not knowing when or if Carwin will return hurts.

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OU wrote:: I would rank Mir over Carwin right now. Not knowing when or if Carwin will return hurts.

That's fair enough. I wouldn't argue either way.

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:26 pm

Carwin hasn't won a fight in 2 years and is constantly hurt. I'm close to dropping him out of my top ten altogether

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:07 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:: Carwin hasn't won a fight in 2 years and is constantly hurt. I'm close to dropping him out of my top ten altogether

Yep me too.

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bobbitt15 wrote:: Carwin hasn't won a fight in 2 years and is constantly hurt. I'm close to dropping him out of my top ten altogether

Has it really been that long ? man time flies.

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:35 pm

Ali wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:: Carwin hasn't won a fight in 2 years and is constantly hurt. I'm close to dropping him out of my top ten altogether

Has it really been that long ? man time flies.

It was one week after Jones vs Vera and JDS vs GG. Now that seems like a long time ago.

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OU wrote:

Ali wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:: Carwin hasn't won a fight in 2 years and is constantly hurt. I'm close to dropping him out of my top ten altogether

Has it really been that long ? man time flies.

It was one week after Jones vs Vera and JDS vs GG. Now that seems like a long time ago.

That's depressing.

Subject: Re: UFC 146....... Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:10 pm

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:: Those are outdated and you can assume that Mir will be #5 in the new rankings.

Mir/Carwin is still a toss up because Carwin would still destroy Mir.

He is still coming off back to back losses and who knows when/if he will fight again. Doubt Mir ends up behind him in the rankings.

The losses were to JDS and Brock. A fighter Mir got destroyed by and another who would destroy him.

I'm not debating what I think should happen. I'm telling you what will happen.

Do you currently have Carwin or Mir higher?

is carwin even coming back? lets not forget that he's an old ass geezer