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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:15 pm
Welcome to six posts ago, better known as yesterday. :\
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:17 pm
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Welcome to six posts ago, better known as yesterday. :\
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:18 pm
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:03 am
awesome event. cantwell should be cut by now,sad story...could care less bout gomi n kid, neither will be in the elite stateside...pettis should win as soon as joe gasses as usual...hioki should make this a ground fight if he wants to win, dont think he will get as lucky as he did against roop...got okami but tim is legit....shields should win against another jap hype but wouldnt be surprised if his last loss got to him...kongo should win as well for he is the better fighter but hunt can always land that one ko punch...finally i got page by dec for we know he probably wont ko any top guy anytime soon and as much as i dislike frankie, guy has the best footwork n speed n the division n got him taking the dec in this fight....great event
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:54 pm
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:59 pm
OU wrote:
You jackin again?
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:06 pm
Mine is bigger therefore, the glory in mine.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:11 pm
Mine may be small. But it's still productive.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:17 pm
A stacked card to me is a card that has a bunch of fights that matter in the divisions they are in, that matter in the context of the sport's history, contain a bunch of world ranked fighters facing off against eachother, fighters on the uptick, and fights the fans have been clamoring for.
Main card
Lightweight Championship bout: United States Frankie Edgar (c) vs. United States Ben Henderson[1] Light Heavyweight bout: United States Quinton Jackson vs. United States Ryan Bader[1] Heavyweight bout: France Cheick Kongo vs. New Zealand Mark Hunt[1] Welterweight bout: Japan Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. United States Jake Shields[1] Middleweight bout: Japan Yushin Okami vs. United States Tim Boetsch[1] Featherweight bout: Japan Hatsu Hioki vs. Poland Bart Palaszewski[1] Lightweight bout: United States Anthony Pettis vs. United States Joe Lauzon[1]
[edit] Preliminary card (FX)
Lightweight bout: Japan Takanori Gomi vs. Japan Eiji Mitsuoka[1] Bantamweight bout: Japan Norifumi Yamamoto vs. England Vaughan Lee[1] Middleweight bout: Japan Riki Fukuda vs. United States Steve Cantwell[1] Bantamweight bout: Japan Takeya Mizugaki vs. United States Chris Cariaso[1]
[edit] Preliminary card (Facebook)
Featherweight bout: China Zhang Tiequan vs. Japan Issei Tamura[1]
Most of these fights don't really fit this criteria. We have some legends on the card like Shields, Rampage, Gomi, but almost everyone is trending down career wise on this card. This card is no more, or no less stacked than the average UFC card. All UFC cards are "stacked" if this one is, to me anyway. There are no legacy fights, no big contender bouts. I see a lot of good fighters and fights that are acceptable for the UFC, but not much sticks out as special.
Where am I wrong?
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:24 pm
It seems like you went wrong when you sold out on being a hcore. Where am I wrong?
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:39 pm
As a hardcore fan, I don't accept any and everything given to me as OMFG MMA classics!!! This card is not special in anyway other than its significance to the Japanese MMA scene. Similarly to my tastes as a hardcore metal fan. I don't accept any old band as awesome because they have blast beats, raspy vocals or riffs as OMG FUCKIN AWESOME!
This card is like any old card the UFC puts together when they move into a new market. No more stacked than the UFC loading up a Scandinavian card with random Magnusons and Svens in favorable match ups against journeymen.
What makes this card stacked vs other cards?
It would be like calling the first NFL game played in Moscow a "game of the ages" even if that year both teams were 5-6, had a couple future HoFrs on the decline, and a few current probowlers.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:49 am
Compared to most cards this has more fights that I'm looking forward to WATCHING. This card is stacked in terms of VIEWING pleasure. For fans looking to SEE great fights, this is a great card. Stacked with entertaining matchups. Kongo vs Hunt may not be relevant to the division but it's a fight that FANS see and say "Hell yeah I want to see that". Jake vs Akiyama is the Sexy debut at WW and Jake trying to stay relevant in the division. Two skilled fighters that need a win here badly. Joe coming off probably the biggest win of his career and facing the always exciting Pettis. Okami vs Boetsch is a fight of relevance for the MW division. These are two of the top MW in the UFC. Hoki vs Bart is possibly a #1 contender matchup, at the very least a title eliminator matchup. You have 2 former WEC Champions, the #2 FW in the World who happens to hold multiples titles fighting an extremely game and always dangerous veteran, you have a top 5 LHW making his return to Japan and the main event features a top 5 p4p fighter. So what more can you ask for? You have top level fighters, you have a ton of exciting matchups and just everything you are looking for in a card. This is must SEE. For anyone that enjoys WATCHING fights, this is a great card.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:07 pm
yea i donno dude if anything the UFC is giving the Japanese a card full of wood to me. Yushin should be fighting a top ten guy but he gets redneck Judo? This card is no more and probably less stacked than a typical UFC card.
Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:31 pm
Main card Lightweight Championship bout: Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Ben Henderson[1] - Title fight no need to hype. Edgar is a badass. Light Heavyweight bout: Quinton Jackson vs. Ryan Bader[1] - Former Champ/top 5 LHW vs top 15 LHW and still a strong prospect. Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Mark Hunt[1] - Avg Heavies that will knock each other out. Welterweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Jake Shields[1] - Overrated/decent fighter v a top 5 WW Middleweight bout: Yushin Okami vs. Tim Boetsch[1] - Top 10 MW v entertaining LHW fighter who may be a top 15 type at MW Featherweight bout: Hatsu Hioki vs. Bart Palaszewski[1] - #1 contender fight? Lightweight bout: Anthony Pettis vs. Joe Lauzon[1] - 2 top 15 LWs. Should move the other semi close to a title shot [edit]Preliminary card (FX) Lightweight bout: Takanori Gomi vs. Eiji Mitsuoka[1] - lengend v a jap fighter Bantamweight bout: Norifumi Yamamoto vs. Vaughan Lee[1] - semi legend v ???.... note I'm 9 fights into the card before I find a true unknown. This card is pretty stacked! Middleweight bout: Riki Fukuda vs. Steve Cantwell[1] Bantamweight bout: Takeya Mizugaki vs. Chris Cariaso[1] [edit]Preliminary card (Facebook) Featherweight bout: Zhang Tiequan vs. Issei Tamura[1]
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:44 pm
then every ufc card is stacked buddy.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:33 pm
Because every card features a top 4 pound for pound fighter who holds the belt in the most talent rich division in the sport, two guys who are the last challenger for a title against dominant champions, a number one contender fight for another dominant champion. Wait... What?
Truth be told this is probably the most overall stacked card since UFC129, excluding maybe 134.
Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:43 am
Wolfgangsta wrote:
then every ufc card is stacked buddy.
This card just has a ton of depth. Sure there have been more stacked cards, but there is a reason the UFC is showing more fights.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:32 am
Any chance they might dust off the old Pride music ?
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:45 pm
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Because every card features a top 4 pound for pound fighter who holds the belt in the most talent rich division in the sport, two guys who are the last challenger for a title against dominant champions, a number one contender fight for another dominant champion. Wait... What?
yawn. Yushin and Shields are not fighting legitimate ranked opponents. And if Bart can win one non-weight fight against the collapsing career of Tyson Griffin and be a true number 1 contender....i dont even. Other than the main event There are no fights between two opponents who are both ranked in the same weight class according to this sites rankings. This is not a particularly stacked card. its an ok card, a good card, a decent card, an above average card, a card loaded with a ton of Japanese nationals.
Are some of the fighters on this card really good though? This is a UFC event right?
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:32 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Quote :
Because every card features a top 4 pound for pound fighter who holds the belt in the most talent rich division in the sport, two guys who are the last challenger for a title against dominant champions, a number one contender fight for another dominant champion. Wait... What?
yawn. Yushin and Shields are not fighting legitimate ranked opponents. And if Bart can win one non-weight fight against the collapsing career of Tyson Griffin and be a true number 1 contender....i dont even. Other than the main event There are no fights between two opponents who are both ranked in the same weight class according to this sites rankings. This is not a particularly stacked card. its an ok card, a good card, a decent card, an above average card, a card loaded with a ton of Japanese nationals.
Are some of the fighters on this card really good though? This is a UFC event right?
Hipsters, the worst kind of people.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:39 pm
Your Jonesean quest to devour the soul of wolf and then absorb his essences is blinding you and thus making your replies nonsensical. But I appreciate you trying to change up from the other three replies you shower me with lately since your anti hero worship began.
I am a hipster for not thinking a card that has more than one(1) fight between two ranked opponents is not particularly stacked? We know almost everyone on the UFC roster. The metric for me is higher than for you. Some people like Katy Parry, Budlight etc, I like Tool and Sam Adams. Its whatever.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:54 pm
Well seeing as Boetsch has looked particularly good at Middleweight in his last two fights and poses a VERY interesting matchup for Okami, and all the other middleweight contenders are tied up in currently announced matchups. Vitor with Wanderlei, Sonnen just fought and is getting the next shot, Maia just fought, Bisping just fought, Munoz is hurt, Palhares just fought too. So Who is Yushin supposed to fight that would be more potentially exciting who hasn't just fought, isn't hurt, and isn't getting the next title shot?
If it's just top 10 ranked fighters fighting other ranked top 10 fighters your not going to find any cards particularly stacked since UFC34-52. When rosters expand you get more events and less "divisionally relevant" fights but that doesn't lend to the idea that this card is somehow less stacked. Maybe to casual fans this card isn't stacked but not even Freak could deny that this card is almost guaranteed to bring the Violence.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:03 pm
Ludo wrote:
Well seeing as Boetsch has looked particularly good at Middleweight in his last two fights and poses a VERY interesting matchup for Okami, and all the other middleweight contenders are tied up in currently announced matchups. Vitor with Wanderlei, Sonnen just fought and is getting the next shot, Maia just fought, Bisping just fought, Munoz is hurt, Palhares just fought too. So Who is Yushin supposed to fight that would be more potentially exciting who hasn't just fought, isn't hurt, and isn't getting the next title shot?
If it's just top 10 ranked fighters fighting other ranked top 10 fighters your not going to find any cards particularly stacked since UFC34-52. When rosters expand you get more events and less "divisionally relevant" fights but that doesn't lend to the idea that this card is somehow less stacked. Maybe to casual fans this card isn't stacked but not even Freak could deny that this card is almost guaranteed to bring the Violence.
What defines "stacked" then? Because short of late notice signings of guys making their debuts off regional circuits with little exposure, we know everyone on every card.
I will say its easily the best card since 139, which imo was a truly stacked card. But since that fat hoe who didnt put out made me leave before the final three fights, the best three fights to conclude a card ever, we dont talk about 139 ever again to wolf. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:09 pm
What defines stacked is a card housing a mix between ranked fighters and guys who scrap night in and night out. Thats what we have here. It might not have the star power 129 did. But Frankie Edgar vs Ben Henderson, Yushin Okami vs Tim Boetsch, Super Somoan vs Chocolate Crepe, Pettis vs Lauzon, Shields vs Akiyama should all be good/great fights. Stylistically these matchups are excellent. Can Shields take Akiyama down when nobody else has? Can Lauzon pull more magic out of his ass? Who's the stronger grappler between Boetsch and Okami? Mark Hunt is always fun to watch. Top 4 pound for pound Frankie Edgar vs Dark Athleticism. Come on.
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Subject: Re: UFC 144 is stacked buddy Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:13 pm
I love this card man, dont get me wrong. Were arguing semantics here.
Fine. This is a level one stacked card. There can be five levels, or three levels, or whatever. I just think cards can be way better than this.
Anyway, I can still win the debate hands down. This card is not "Stacked". UFC 73 was. :p