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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:28 am | |
| Although the UFC’s seven-year deal with Fox is still in its infancy, the effects of the deal are beginning to trickle through the MMA world. The MMA Corner has learned from sources close to the situation that the latest impact is that guns and ammunition sponsors, such as The Gun Store and Ammotogo.com, have been banned from events that take place on the Fox family of networks. It will go into effect on Jan. 23. Fighters competing at events that air on Fox, FX or Fuel TV will have to find other sponsors for their bouts. The first such event takes place this Friday, Jan. 20, in Nashville, Tenn., marking the inaugural event on the FX network. Even at UFC 142, in the preliminary bouts, guns and ammunition sponsors were noticeably absent from both fighter banners and shorts. At this point in time the ban does not appear to affect pay-per-view main card fighters, but any fighters taking part in Fox-broadcast preliminary card fights will be impacted as they shift from Facebook to Fuel TV in 2012. http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/379742/Report-UFC-Gun-sponsors-banned-on-FOX-broadcasts/-- While FOX can do what it likes and feels is best, but this is a load of shit IMO. They show shows like The Walking Dead and 24 on FX and Fox. Why the hell can't you have a sponsor that sells guns? | |
| | | cheekynffc Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : froch, hatton, benn, duran, hagler, ponce de leon Posts : 1501 Join date : 2011-07-17
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:58 pm | |
| gun advertisements are a deliberate attempt to encourage people to buy guns.
i know that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns but you're not seriously telling me there's nothing wrong with that are you? | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:24 pm | |
| I fully support the second amendment but I see where Fox is coming from. | |
| | | cascade_run Purple Belt
Posts : 1076 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:30 pm | |
| It's all about image, I'm sure there is many things that will change with they way the UFC shows go, once Fox actually gets a grasp of what they have and how do market it, what sponsors there can be, post fight interviews, announcers, I have not seen one ad for the UFC on Fox 2, except for during Football games,I guess they only want to show violence during violence in their minds. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:19 pm | |
| - cheekynffc wrote:
- gun advertisements are a deliberate attempt to encourage people to buy guns.
i know that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns but you're not seriously telling me there's nothing wrong with that are you? There is nothing wrong with buying guns, owning guns, and gun sellers advertising. It just needs to done responsibly. | |
| | | oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:41 pm | |
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| | | JerseyStyle Orange Belt
Posts : 267 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:50 am | |
| I have a house full of guns. Not one of my guns have ever hurt or killed someone. I have lost a few friends to Bud Light...... | |
| | | MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:28 am | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- weak
THIS. But I'm not surprised | |
| | | Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:33 am | |
| - cheekynffc wrote:
- gun advertisements are a deliberate attempt to encourage people to buy guns.
i know that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns but you're not seriously telling me there's nothing wrong with that are you? What the fuck do you know about my rights Cheeky? My right to arms and that of all Americans keeps my government in check and the bad guys out of my house. You know why we don't get invaded by countries with bigger armies? Because they would get decimated from grandmas, dads, daughters, etc. I like to shoot and so does my only child. You want to put your faith in someone else to protect you when the shit hits the fan? Go ahead dead man, I can protect myself. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:39 pm | |
| I'm sorry, I thought this was America??? | |
| | | cheekynffc Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:01 pm | |
| - Andrew the Raider King wrote:
- cheekynffc wrote:
- gun advertisements are a deliberate attempt to encourage people to buy guns.
i know that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns but you're not seriously telling me there's nothing wrong with that are you? What the fuck do you know about my rights Cheeky? My right to arms and that of all Americans keeps my government in check and the bad guys out of my house. You know why we don't get invaded by countries with bigger armies? Because they would get decimated from grandmas, dads, daughters, etc. I like to shoot and so does my only child. You want to put your faith in someone else to protect you when the shit hits the fan? Go ahead dead man, I can protect myself. i didn't say anything about your rights. i did suggest that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns though and you're only serving to strengthen my argument here. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:06 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- I'm sorry, I thought this was America???
It is, that is why FOX has the right to pick and choose what they promote on their channels. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:09 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- I'm sorry, I thought this was America???
It is, that is why FOX has the right to pick and choose what they promote on their channels. Can they find sponsor replacements? Will The Gun Store be compensated for their loyalty? I guess the UFC is too cool for their old friends? Remember where you came from. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:10 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- I'm sorry, I thought this was America???
It is, that is why FOX has the right to pick and choose what they promote on their channels. Can they find sponsor replacements? Will The Gun Store be compensated for their loyalty? I guess the UFC is too cool for their old friends? Remember where you came from. UFC don't give a shit about no Gun Store. Someone else will pay them to fill the spot. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:18 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- I'm sorry, I thought this was America???
It is, that is why FOX has the right to pick and choose what they promote on their channels. Can they find sponsor replacements? Will The Gun Store be compensated for their loyalty? I guess the UFC is too cool for their old friends? Remember where you came from. UFC don't give a shit about no Gun Store. Someone else will pay them to fill the spot. I blame Dana White. 100%. | |
| | | Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:28 pm | |
| - cheekynffc wrote:
- Andrew the Raider King wrote:
- cheekynffc wrote:
- gun advertisements are a deliberate attempt to encourage people to buy guns.
i know that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns but you're not seriously telling me there's nothing wrong with that are you? What the fuck do you know about my rights Cheeky? My right to arms and that of all Americans keeps my government in check and the bad guys out of my house. You know why we don't get invaded by countries with bigger armies? Because they would get decimated from grandmas, dads, daughters, etc. I like to shoot and so does my only child. You want to put your faith in someone else to protect you when the shit hits the fan? Go ahead dead man, I can protect myself. i didn't say anything about your rights.
i did suggest that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns though and you're only serving to strengthen my argument here. I also have an obseesion with my right to free speech, my right to representation and all things American. These things and our right to bear arms is what makes us the greatest nation on Earth... | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:38 pm | |
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| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:08 pm | |
| *UPDATE * - The MMA Corner has learned that the ban includes companies related to guns, knives, ammunition, and hunting. It will go into effect on Jan. 23. The ban has been extended to all UFC events, not just those broadcast on the Fox family of networks. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:08 pm | |
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| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:17 pm | |
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| | | cheekynffc Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:09 am | |
| - Andrew the Raider King wrote:
- cheekynffc wrote:
- Andrew the Raider King wrote:
- cheekynffc wrote:
- gun advertisements are a deliberate attempt to encourage people to buy guns.
i know that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns but you're not seriously telling me there's nothing wrong with that are you? What the fuck do you know about my rights Cheeky? My right to arms and that of all Americans keeps my government in check and the bad guys out of my house. You know why we don't get invaded by countries with bigger armies? Because they would get decimated from grandmas, dads, daughters, etc. I like to shoot and so does my only child. You want to put your faith in someone else to protect you when the shit hits the fan? Go ahead dead man, I can protect myself. i didn't say anything about your rights.
i did suggest that many americans have a perverse and unhealthy obsession with guns though and you're only serving to strengthen my argument here. I also have an obseesion with my right to free speech, my right to representation and all things American. These things and our right to bear arms is what makes us the greatest nation on Earth...
you're only the greatest nation on earth in your own minds, and if having the right to wave a gun about is what you think affords you that status you're a lost fucking cause and the last fucker that should ever have the right to handle one. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:08 pm | |
| America is lame, like most other places. We are just more flamboyant about our lameness. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:31 pm | |
| http://mmajunkie.com/news/27120/the-gun-stores-chris-irwin-disappointed-in-fox-driven-ufc-sponsorship-ban.mma"If you're not at the pinnacle of this league, if you're not Georges St-Pierre or the Diaz brothers or those guys up there, some of these guys don't make a lot of money," Irwin said. "This is really all they have. So the ones I can help out, I'm going to help out, especially the local ones here in Vegas that I know personally. But it really is the fighters that are suffering, and it's kind of unfortunate for them." That said, Irwin said he doesn't hold the UFC accountable for the decision. "I don't think for a second this has anything to do with the UFC office," Irwin said. "I've talked to Dana White before. He was incredibly cordial with me. I know a lot of people over there, and I'm just very well-received over there. We have a good working relationship, and I think this is just something where the UFC's hands are tied due to the network." | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Gun sponsors banned from FOX broadcasts Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:21 am | |
| http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/1/26/2735787/nate-quarry-ufc-weapons-ban-gives-perspective-the-gun-store - Quote :
- An MMA fighter has an agent that he pays, a team he fights for that he trains at, that he pays, if he's good and has the money he has a muay thai coach, a Jits coach, a strength and conditioning coach, a diet coach and someone to help him cut weight. And if he just made it to the big shows he MAY make 30k for the year. Minus 20% for management and training at least then a third for taxes and you're sitting at about 16k to live on for the entire year.Sponsors have always been a huge source of income for fighters. I can't tell you how many times a sponsor showed up at just the right time and gave me food money. Literally.
When I fought Pete Sell the second time I was sponsored by Toyo tires. For two fights I had their logo on my shorts. For what? A set of tires. That would be about $800. $400 for two fights on primetime that have been shown over and over. Why did I do it? Because I was driving around on my spare and one other tire was filled with fix a flat. The belts were showing on the other tires.
You want to see the best a fighter can be? Buy his gear. Support the brands that sponsor him and send the companies emails letting them know you're buying theirprotein because they're sponsoring someone. What's that you say? If you don't like it then quit? I do like it. In fact, I love it. That's why I lived in my buddies basement 2 nights a week to save on gas money. And I rode with other friends to practice to save on gas money. And I packed a lunch to practice. And I only wore clothes sponsors and other more successful fighters would give me. And I'd do it all over again. If you got into fighting to be rich, you chose the wrong sport. Do it for the love and if you get rich that's a nice bonus. But having those sponsors can sure make the ride easier.
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