MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Hey! Come on! you need to learn when to pull back or I will be the only person you are fighting with. I don't take it as personally as they do, but I am older and have a thicker skin than they do too.

Who dat call my name? I have been running the gauntlet with Wolf for two years now. My skin is teflon. I like to think I have matured seeing how I hadn't even tried "internets" until 2008.

BBC did not have teflon skin in 2008.

I think he meant foreskin Wolf.

My new top 10-

01. GSP
02. Anderson Silva
03. Fedor Emelianenko
04. Mauricio Rua
05. Frankie Edgar
06. Lyoto Machida
07. Jose Aldo
08. BJ Penn
09. Jon Fitch
10. Rashad Evans

Here is mine! BTW Ali, I know you are a fan, but Fedor did just fucking lose...quickly.

01. GSP
02. Anderson Silva
03. Mauricio Rua
04. Jose Aldo
05. Brock Lesnar
06. Frankie Edgar
07. Chael Sonnen
08. Lyota Machida
09. Cain Velasquez
10. Jon Fitch

I'm not really a Fedor fan, but I don't agree with dropping him because of a quick submission loss.

#1 Anderson Silva
#2 GSP
#3 Fedor
#4 Shogun Rua
#5 Jose Aldo
#6 Lyoto Machida
#7 Jon Fitch
#8 Jake Shields
#9 Frankie Edgar
#10 Rashad Evans

Yeah but do you really think he is the number one HW and if he isn't why isn't the number one HW over him? See what I mean?

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Yeah but do you really think he is the number one HW and if he isn't why isn't the number one HW over him? See what I mean?

Because Brock Lesnar isn't pound for pound worthy in my opinion. Fedor is a superior all round fighter compared to Brock.

8-29-2010 means start listing your rankings again.

GSP
Shogun
Anderson
Fedor
Aldo
Edgar
Cruz
Shields
Fitch
Machida

looks like I can finally drop BJ and classify him in the same spot a Faber and Torres. Time will tell if I must do the same to Fedor or if he falls into the GSP category.

It was a tough choice between Penn and Machida considering they both lost twice in a row to the same guys. I think Machida has the better present upside from a competitive perspective though. I rank BJ very high but his future seems more questionable right now.

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ooks like I can finally drop BJ and classify him in the same spot a Faber and Torres. Time will tell if I must do the same to Fedor or if he falls into the GSP category.

As a relative "never-was" in an emerging division, replaced by second gen fighters? Not the same. He's in the same class as Chuck Liddell. Splitting hairs here.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

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ooks like I can finally drop BJ and classify him in the same spot a Faber and Torres. Time will tell if I must do the same to Fedor or if he falls into the GSP category.

As a relative "never-was" in an emerging division, replaced by second gen fighters? Not the same. He's in the same class as Chuck Liddell. Splitting hairs here.

Come on now I think you know what I mean. All I ment by it was I don't like to drop dominate Champions until they lose more then once. I thought Faber and Torres were still the best in the world but just have off nights. Time proved I was wrong. Just like Frankie proved I was wrong about BJ. But on the other hand GSP proved me to be right, he was the best WW in the world just like I thought the was. I feel the same about Fedor, I still feel he is the best and I think time will prove me right.

In fairness to BJ, this fight only happened because BJ got fucked in the ass the last time right?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

In fairness to BJ, this fight only happened because BJ got fucked in the ass the last time right?

Yeah, I believe that's the technical way to put it.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Yeah but do you really think he is the number one HW and if he isn't why isn't the number one HW over him? See what I mean?

Because if Fedor weighed 265 pounds Brock wouldn't last 1 round with Fedor and i'm a huge Brock fan.

Here are our official rankings. There weren't enough Featherweight or Bantamweight votes to even put those on here. Hopefully we get some more participation now that we will do this on a regular basis with a quick tally

Heavyweight
1. Brock Lesnar
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Fedor Emelianenko
4. Cain Velasquez
5. Junior Dos Santos
6. Shane Carwin
7. Alistair Overeem
8. Frank Mir
9. Antonio Silva
10. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria

HM: Roy Nelson, Josh Barnett, Brett Rogers

Light Heavyweight
1. Mauricio Rua
2. Lyoto Machida
3. Rashad Evans
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6. Jon Jones
7. Forrest Griffin
8. Rich Franklin
9. Rafael Feijao Cavalcante
10. Randy Couture

HM: Ryan Bader, Thiago Silva, Muhammad Lawal, Gegard Mousasi

Middleweight
1. Anderson Silva
2. Chael Sonnen
3. Vitor Belfort
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Yushin Okami
6. Ronaldo Souza
7. Demian Maia
8. Jorge Santiago
9. Wanderlei Silva
10. Alan Belcher/Chris Leben

HM: Dan Henderson, Hector Lombard, Michael Bisping, Jason Miller

Welterweight
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Thiago Alves
5. Jake Shields
6. Nick Diaz
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Dan Hardy
9. Matt Hughes
10. Paul Daley

HM: Paulo Thiago, Carlos Condit, John Hathaway

Lightweight
1. Frankie Edgar
2. Gray Maynard
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. BJ Penn
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Kenny Florian
7. Shinya Aoki
8. George Sotiropoulos
9. Evan Dunham
10. Takanori Gomi

HM: Jim Miller, Ben Henderson, Sean Sherk

I don't understand Nick Diaz/Jake Shields

People still rank Alves top 5 after all the inactivity and uninspired performance against Fitch?

Had same amount of "points" when I tallied shit up so I just stuck them at 5 and then skipped a spot. Shields had the highest ranking between the 2 so I guess I could just put him ahead of Diaz if we wanted to do that

I like that. Shields #5 and Diaz #6

We need a do over! WW rankings are shit! Everything else looks in place. I don't see ho anyone but GSP can be ahead of Jake Shields? Our WW rankings are a complete joke!!!!

Well hopefully next time we get a little more participation

Jake Shields has been off at 185. It's understandable why he is lower at 170. I see no major issues.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

I don't understand Nick Diaz/Jake Shields

People still rank Alves top 5 after all the inactivity and uninspired performance against Fitch?

He only lost to the #1 and #2 in the division consecutively. He was top 5 before hand so I see no real reason to drop him at this point from the top 5.

Good work Bobbitt.

I have noticed people are less willing to do rankings also. Not just the p4p thing on Ninjas place either. I do, or more rather did do, a divisional and p4p rankings on another board for about half a year and each time less and less people contributed. There was always a high level of criticism from non-participants though, chikenshits lol. I stopped doing it. At first about 12 people did each one, 1 along with myself did the last before I ended it in May. I like doing them, it is a pretty useless exercise but still worthwhile for me.