| Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? | |
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Rematch? | No, epic battle but time to move on | | 38% | [ 5 ] | Yes, the title is tied up for now so why not? | | 62% | [ 8 ] |
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OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:05 am | |
| To rematch or not to rematch? That is the question. | |
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Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:08 am | |
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Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:11 am | |
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Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:18 am | |
| I'm not against it. I would prefer they moved on just because of Dan's age. But at the same time I don't see a bigger fight out there for him at the moment unless he waits around awhile. I wouldn't be opposed to Dan jumping over Chael to fight Spider but that just isn't going to happen. So with both titles tied up I would favor Hendo vs Shogun II over Hendo vs Rashad. | |
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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:49 am | |
| i think rashad will dance outside of the overhand and get a td or 3 and win | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:06 pm | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:11 pm | |
| yeah let's do the rematch, or have shogun fight 'page on the japan card | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:11 pm | |
| but reality is, both of these guys are gonna need a long time to heal up. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:26 pm | |
| - Quote :
- “It was certainly a big fight. I don’t know how the judges scored the last round, they could or they should have given a 10-8 for me. But that doesn’t take anything away from Dan Henderson. He’s a legend and that’s the type of fight where you create a legacy. But I want a rematch, I think it would be a great battle and the fans want to see it.”
SHOGUN! looks like shogun is ready for a rematch! | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:07 pm | |
| Naa. Not immediately. Do Hendo vs Shad or Rampage again. Or a fight at 185. | |
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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:14 pm | |
| hendo vs page has alot more pop to me than hendo vs rashad | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:21 pm | |
| I think the fight should go to rematch instantly really. This was a draw fight and everyone, even the guile-less judges who scored the fight, know that. This isn't a rip off like Machida/Rua 1, this is a real draw, I think instant rematch is owed. The fighters owe it to themselves, the UFC owes it to the fans, to finish this right. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:21 pm | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- Naa. Not immediately. Do Hendo vs Shad or Rampage again. Or a fight at 185.
Hendo is not cutting down to 185 unless its against Silva. I think a rematch would be the best possible fight to make, if its half as good as the last one itll be worth it | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:26 pm | |
| Mike Chiappetta MMA - Quote :
- On MMA Junkie Radio, Stitch Duran said Shogun didn't want to go out for Rd 4, had to be convinced. Makes #UFC139 Rds 4 & 5 even more epic.
HOLY SHIT! and to still come out and dominate the final 2 rounds is crazy!Mike Chiappetta MMA - Quote :
- Sorry, I heard that wrong. It was Hendo who didnt want to go out for Rd 4, not Shogun. Trying to work & listen is tricky. Apologies!
asshole! lol
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Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:34 pm | |
| Hendo vs Rampage II does sound nice as well. The first battle was a good one and I think the rematch would be even better. I would be happy with either fight really Shogun 2 or Rampage 2. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:41 pm | |
| Yes simply because upon rewatching it was a clear 47-47 to me | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:45 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Yes simply because upon rewatching it was a clear 47-47 to me
same here, i gave Shogun a clear 10-8 at the end, and while Hendo did a lot of damage in the first 3 i think Shogun did enough to keep it from being a 10-8. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:52 pm | |
| I say no. Reason being, no chance a rematch is anywhere near as good. Let the legend of this fight live for awhile. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:04 pm | |
| yea im not opposed to an instant rematch really if Hendo isn't going to get a bigger fight. | |
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| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:05 pm | |
| Yeah but I'd be fine with Hendo vs. Bones. |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:08 pm | |
| i still don't think round 5 was a 10-8. You cant say Hendo wasn't defending at all because he did get to half guard a couple times its not like Rua was in mount the entire round. Hendo made him work for it and Shogun was too gassed to threaten at all despite having numerous submission opportunities in that round. And his punches had nothing on them Hendo was never in real danger. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:10 pm | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- i still don't think round 5 was a 10-8. You cant say Hendo wasn't defending at all because he did get to half guard a couple times its not like Rua was in mount the entire round. Hendo made him work for it and Shogun was too gassed to threaten at all despite having numerous submission opportunities in that round. And his punches had nothing on them Hendo was never in real danger.
its not that he wasn't defending, it's that he wasn't doing anything else! he outstruck him 5 to 1! if that wasn't a 10-8 then i dont know what is! | |
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jimbojones1950 Green Belt
Posts : 414 Join date : 2010-06-25
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:22 pm | |
| I really think that if you are going to score round 5 10-8, then round 3 has to be a 10-8 for Hendo. I have a hard time rationalizing that a round of positional dominance, with no threat of a finish is worth more then what we saw in round 3 where the fight was almost stopped. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:27 pm | |
| - jimbojones1950 wrote:
- I really think that if you are going to score round 5 10-8, then round 3 has to be a 10-8 for Hendo. I have a hard time rationalizing that a round of positional dominance, with no threat of a finish is worth more then what we saw in round 3 where the fight was almost stopped.
in round 3 hendo got dropped, taken down and shogun went for a sub. you can't give that a 10-8 can you? | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Are you in favor of a Hendo-Shogun rematch? Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:30 pm | |
| Hendo was dominant and deadly for less than half of round three, Shogun won the second half of round three, it was a 10-9 round.
Round 5 was 99% Shogun, Hendo offered nothing, it was the most dominant round of the fight. Easy 10-8.
You can justify 10-9 easily for the third because even though Shogun was rocked bad he still came back with offense in the last three minutes of that round. I couldn't really justify 10-9 for the fifth, Hendo offered nothing against Shogun dominating in strikes and grappling throughout. | |
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