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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptySun Nov 06, 2011 3:10 pm

wtf, why couldn't have just done this for 137 ?
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptySun Nov 06, 2011 7:44 pm

I like Condit in the fight.

Yeah, Dana is probably regretting not taking Kos up on his offer for 137. I guessing Dana thought that if Diaz were to win, it would not be such an ass beating so Condit's reservations were safe as long as he protected him..but if Condit had defeated Kos at the same event, it would be easier to make an arguement for Condit deserving a shot over Diaz..which he does not.

He should have let the fight happen. Since Condit had been preparing for GSP he would have been more than ready for Koscheck and fuck protecting contenders.

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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptySun Nov 06, 2011 11:13 pm

I like Kos in this fight. I think he will get some takedowns and win on points.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptySun Nov 06, 2011 11:38 pm

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I like Kos in this fight. I think he will get some takedowns and win on points.


Yup. It is a shame because guys like Condit and Diaz are better MMA fighters but they don't have the strength or wrestling skills to get up all the time when a guy like Kos or Fitch hump them the whole fight. Kos will atleast try to stand befoer going for the LnP.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 3:40 am

does this fight make sense?

i wonder if this brings a GSP/anderson silva fight closer to reality? if koscheck wins (which he may very well do) then GSP has nobody left to fight at welterweight, nobody wants to see GSP/koscheck again.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 9:51 am

Kos doesn't deserve it.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 10:02 am

cheekynffc wrote:
does this fight make sense?

i wonder if this brings a GSP/anderson silva fight closer to reality? if koscheck wins (which he may very well do) then GSP has nobody left to fight at welterweight, nobody wants to see GSP/koscheck again.

I think it's more likely we see GSP/Kos 3 than we ever see GSP/Anderson. But as I've said before I'm a pro-rematch guy I'm not one of these fans who act like cause one fighter beat other fighter twice it means that the loser of those fights could never progress to get better than the fighter he lost to. JMO
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 10:05 am

OU wrote:
Kos doesn't deserve it.


Why not? I mean if Fitch could fight it should be him but since he's still hurt Kos is next in line. Is this just you hating or do you actually think that? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 10:30 am

MMAEYES wrote:
OU wrote:
Kos doesn't deserve it.


Why not? I mean if Fitch could fight it should be him but since he's still hurt Kos is next in line. Is this just you hating or do you actually think that? lol
Why is Koscheck still in the front of the line when he has only won 1 fight since losing his title shot(his 2nd shot at GSP) and that 1 win was over the aging Matt Hughes? He should be fighting someone like Sheilds right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 10:35 am

I don't think losing a title shot puts you back that far down that line, yeah the Hughes win isn't special but he held that higher rank going into that fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 10:37 am

MMAEYES wrote:
I don't think losing a title shot puts you back that far down that line, yeah the Hughes win isn't special but he held that higher rank going into that fight.
Even though Jake lost to Ellenberger I still think him and Kos are on the same level at this point. That fight makes much more sense to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 10:44 am

MMAEYES wrote:
cheekynffc wrote:
does this fight make sense?

i wonder if this brings a GSP/anderson silva fight closer to reality? if koscheck wins (which he may very well do) then GSP has nobody left to fight at welterweight, nobody wants to see GSP/koscheck again.

I think it's more likely we see GSP/Kos 3 than we ever see GSP/Anderson. But as I've said before I'm a pro-rematch guy I'm not one of these fans who act like cause one fighter beat other fighter twice it means that the loser of those fights could never progress to get better than the fighter he lost to. JMO

i agree but i don't think GSP v koscheck III would be one of those fights that could turn out different to the first two.

i think this is a very difficut test for condit and on it's own merits a very good fight, but what are they going to do with GSP if he beats diaz and koscheck beats condit?
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:18 pm

Makes sense, though I would of liked to see it at 137 as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 2:45 pm

If Kos wins who leapfrogs to the front of the line for GSP ?
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 2:46 pm

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If Kos wins who leapfrogs to the front of the line for GSP ?
Jon Dangerfield.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 2:52 pm

OU wrote:
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If Kos wins who leapfrogs to the front of the line for GSP ?
Jon Dangerfield.

I doubt Fitch gets another shot, not when he drew with Penn.

Probably Ellenberger, after his destruction of Shields would be hard to ignore him.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 2:58 pm

Ali wrote:
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If Kos wins who leapfrogs to the front of the line for GSP ?
Jon Dangerfield.

I doubt Fitch gets another shot, not when he drew with Penn.

Probably Ellenberger, after his destruction of Shields would be hard to ignore him.
No one in the history of the UFC has had to to more to get a title rematch then Jon Fitch. I swear it's like some people still think Alves is closer to a title shot then Fitch. Jon Fitch hasn't lost a fight in the UFC since 2008 and hasn't loss to someone other then GSP since 2002.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 3:00 pm

OU wrote:
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If Kos wins who leapfrogs to the front of the line for GSP ?
Jon Dangerfield.

I doubt Fitch gets another shot, not when he drew with Penn.

Probably Ellenberger, after his destruction of Shields would be hard to ignore him.
No one in the history of the UFC has had to to more to get a title rematch then Jon Fitch. I swear it's like some people still think Alves is closer to a title shot then Fitch. Jon Fitch hasn't lost a fight in the UFC since 2008 and hasn't loss to someone other then GSP since 2002.

Unfortunately for Fitch he rubs Dana the wrong way.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Ali wrote:
OU wrote:
Ali wrote:
OU wrote:
Ali wrote:
If Kos wins who leapfrogs to the front of the line for GSP ?
Jon Dangerfield.

I doubt Fitch gets another shot, not when he drew with Penn.

Probably Ellenberger, after his destruction of Shields would be hard to ignore him.
No one in the history of the UFC has had to to more to get a title rematch then Jon Fitch. I swear it's like some people still think Alves is closer to a title shot then Fitch. Jon Fitch hasn't lost a fight in the UFC since 2008 and hasn't loss to someone other then GSP since 2002.

Unfortunately for Fitch he rubs Dana the wrong way.
Unfortunately for Fitch the out of the cage persona outweighs the in the cage performance.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 3:57 pm

If Kos beats Condit I wouldn't have a problem with Fitch fighting GSP. I want it to happen so the Fitch fans can see their boy get beat and STFU and quit bringing it up. I do agree it was a dumb move by the UFC to match up Condit with Kos. Let Condit fight Ellenberger and the winner gets GSP. If Condit beats Kos everyone will want to see him fight GSP. A guy that can scrap like CC and a win over a strong wrestler like Kos would make for a huge title fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 4:58 pm

Fitch will likely have a hard time fitching Hendricks. Hopefully he loses
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 6:34 pm

a very dangerous fight but one i think Condit wins, i hope at least... i'd hate to hear Kos vs GSP II rumors... argh Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 9:41 am

killerofchicken wrote:
a very dangerous fight but one i think Condit wins, i hope at least... i'd hate to hear Kos vs GSP II rumors... argh Evil or Very Mad
Well it would be Kos vs GSP 3, Kos has already lost twice to GSP.
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PostSubject: Re: Condit vs Koscheck at 143   Condit vs Koscheck at 143 EmptyTue Nov 08, 2011 11:12 am

OU wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
a very dangerous fight but one i think Condit wins, i hope at least... i'd hate to hear Kos vs GSP II rumors... argh Evil or Very Mad
Well it would be Kos vs GSP 3, Kos has already lost twice to GSP.
whoops, totally forgot about that... i'd be willing to bet your left nut that if kos wins danas gonna push for Kos vs Fitch as the next contender fight...
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