Ed Soares in hot water?

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:43 pm

Im kind of with Kings, not sure what this guy has done for people to want him gone from the game.

though it's not surprising that a fight manager who constantly finds ways to get his name in the headlines will draw ire.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:46 pm

I think it is a lot easier to come off douche'y as a manager of any talent in general. Not a position that makes anyone other than who you represent like you a lot of the time.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:47 pm

If Mike Roberts was quote worthy or handled a lot of successful fighters, people would say the same of him probably.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:47 pm

http://www.mmanews.com/forums/general-mma-forum/41503-ed-soares-sketchy-post-fight-pc-translation-word-word.html

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:49 pm

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=news.detail&gid=230171

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:50 pm

I knew I have seen it before. His translations have been questioned quite a bit.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:51 pm

The message stays consistent though in those. He forgets things or puts them in different order and simplifies at times, but really, with a thesaurus one could have a fun synonym exercise breaking down quotes into very different looking messages that say virtually the same thing.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:53 pm

GDPofDRC wrote:: The message stays consistent though in those. He forgets things or puts them in different order at times, but really, with a thesaurus one could have a fun synonym exercise breaking down quotes into very different looking messages that say virtually the same thing.

I'm sure Ed has given more PC versions of what the fighters have said on more then one occasion. I don't think that is a reach in assuming that. I just hate how the manger is the translator, it just leaves those questions in my mind.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:57 pm

It's not uncommon. Eduardo Alonso does alright.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:24 pm

OU wrote:: I knew I have seen it before. His translations have been questioned quite a bit.

Ed Soares being a liar, or misquoting Silva is old hat. We were talking about it a few years ago.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:33 pm

I don't care if he translates well or not. I want to see Silva Vs Sonnen II. If soares is trying to protect his client, he is doing a bad job. If Silva is ducking Sonnen, everyone will figure that out. If Silva-Sonnen II happens and Sonnen wins? He is still going on the Mt. Rushmore of MMA long with Royce, Randy, and GSP...

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:52 pm

Andrew the Raider King wrote:: I don't care if he translates well or not. I want to see Silva Vs Sonnen II. If soares is trying to protect his client, he is doing a bad job. If Silva is ducking Sonnen, everyone will figure that out. If Silva-Sonnen II happens and Sonnen wins? He is still going on the Mt. Rushmore of MMA long with Royce, Randy, and GSP...

I won't argue with any of this.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:36 pm

Ed needs to go. GTFO Ali!

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:30 pm

OU wrote:: http://www.mmanews.com/forums/general-mma-forum/41503-ed-soares-sketchy-post-fight-pc-translation-word-word.html

I read the first handful and Im really not seeing anything out of line here. And soares says it right in the 3rd exchange, this is alot to remember, he's admitting that the translations are not perfect, and even if it were a professional translator, long answers, and most of these are, would not result in a perfect translation.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:17 pm

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:: I don't care if he translates well or not. I want to see Silva Vs Sonnen II. If soares is trying to protect his client, he is doing a bad job. If Silva is ducking Sonnen, everyone will figure that out. If Silva-Sonnen II happens and Sonnen wins? He is still going on the Mt. Rushmore of MMA long with Royce, Randy, and GSP...

I won't argue with any of this.

I will.

Randy isn't Mt Rushmore of MMA Worthy.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:35 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:: I don't care if he translates well or not. I want to see Silva Vs Sonnen II. If soares is trying to protect his client, he is doing a bad job. If Silva is ducking Sonnen, everyone will figure that out. If Silva-Sonnen II happens and Sonnen wins? He is still going on the Mt. Rushmore of MMA long with Royce, Randy, and GSP...

I won't argue with any of this.

I will.

Randy isn't Mt Rushmore of MMA Worthy.

I didn't want to be the guy that pointed that out. Some folks just love Randy. Dude lost 1/3 of his fights. I don't care how many Tim Sylvia's he beat. I wouldn't put him on my Mt Rushmore right now.

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:37 pm

Isnt it Ed Soares duty to Anderson Silva to make him look good?

So if Anderson said something offensive or silly in portuguese, then Ed Soares is doing right for his client by sugarcoating it or making sure the shit that would gather poor PR does not come out. That is if you buy that he even does give false translations, this is the only instance i can see it making any sense for him to do so..and in that instance..who the hell cares?

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:30 am

KingsOwn19 wrote:: Isnt it Ed Soares duty to Anderson Silva to make him look good?

So if Anderson said something offensive or silly in portuguese, then Ed Soares is doing right for his client by sugarcoating it or making sure the shit that would gather poor PR does not come out. That is if you buy that he even does give false translations, this is the only instance i can see it making any sense for him to do so..and in that instance..who the hell cares?

It just annoys me. They get a filter on their comments that other fighters don't. Fighters often times don't say the right thing after a fight. But if there comments were filtered through the manager first, different story.

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bobbitt15 wrote:: Soares is going to manage Sonnen heading into the rematch. Just like Paul Bearer leaving Undertaker for Kane

Subject: Re: Ed Soares in hot water? Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:18 pm

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/11/16/2567015/anderson-silva-still-upset-with-ed-soares-no-date-for-sonnen-fight
From MMA Nation:

"It's a problem," Silva told MMA Nation on Sunday at Phoenix
International Raceway, where he was an honorary official for the NASCAR
Sprint Cup Series race. "It's a big problem. I don't like the picture, I
don't like the position my manager (was in). Big problem. I don't like
it."

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