Is Anderson the first...

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

Anyone ever saying that Silva was ducking anyone is being idiotic. Dude has fought and beat anyone and everyone that the UFC has put in front of him, but he's ducking guys? Sorry, but that is just a dumb argument.

OU wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Whatever happens Anderson Silva is in no way shape or form scared of Chael Sonnen.

I'm not even going to get into that aspect. Whether Anderson wants the fight or not is irrelevant. He will be fighting Chael next and that is the bottom line. It doesn't matter if Spider is drug to the ring kicking and screaming, he will be fighting Chael. It's impossible to consider it "ducking".

"it" ducking, no
"was" ducking, yes!

next please! lol

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

You act like my boss here. Just treat us like we are dumb and can't see thru all the smoke.


Anderson Silva wants no part of Chael Sonnen. He doesn't want to fight him again because he knows Chael will beat him. truth!

Where did I dispute that? But you can't classify this as ducking, it just doesn't qualify. Neither Anderson or Chael have fought or will fight anyone else since this thread was made. They will be fighting eachother. There was no duck.

Yeah but you cant dig this up and say we were wrong because Silva was ducking Chael at that time.


I have it on good authority that he is scurred! mmaeyes said so

That doesn't even make sense. He was ducking Chael how? By expressing his feelings on Chael as a contender? He was fucking injured, it's not like the fight could take place in the near future. It's not like he asked for someone else. Sounds to me like Spider accepted the fight. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't making any sense here.

Even more moronic then the statements on Fedor. So a couple weeks ago because the fight wasn't announced he was "ducking" Chael? But now all the sudden 2 weeks later, his feelings have not changed one bit, he is no longer ducking? Again this in no way qualifies as ducking. It qualifies as Chael fans and/or Spider haters being over dramatic.

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

You act like my boss here. Just treat us like we are dumb and can't see thru all the smoke.


Anderson Silva wants no part of Chael Sonnen. He doesn't want to fight him again because he knows Chael will beat him. truth!

Where did I dispute that? But you can't classify this as ducking, it just doesn't qualify. Neither Anderson or Chael have fought or will fight anyone else since this thread was made. They will be fighting eachother. There was no duck.

Yeah but you cant dig this up and say we were wrong because Silva was ducking Chael at that time.


I have it on good authority that he is scurred! mmaeyes said so

That doesn't even make sense. He was ducking Chael how? By expressing his feelings on Chael as a contender? He was fucking injured, it's not like the fight could take place in the near future. It's not like he asked for someone else. Sounds to me like Spider accepted the fight. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't making any sense here.

At the same time I can read this and say you aren't making any sense either. He expressed he didn't want to fight Chael. Nobody meant while he had an injury either. He was asked if he was down to make Chael his NEXT fight and said everything possible to not fight Chael. Anderson still hasn't said he would anyways. Dana said he is fighting him whether he wants to or not. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't makeing any sense here.

OU wrote:

Even more moronic then the statements on Fedor. So a couple weeks ago because the fight wasn't announced he was "ducking" Chael? But now all the sudden 2 weeks later, his feelings have not changed one bit, he is no longer ducking? Again this in no way qualifies as ducking. It qualifies as Chael fans and/or Spider haters being over dramatic.

All the moronic stuff I said about Fedor was or turned out to be true. that's a fact!

I need to get ready for work. I will come back and spank you kids more in few hours.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

You act like my boss here. Just treat us like we are dumb and can't see thru all the smoke.


Anderson Silva wants no part of Chael Sonnen. He doesn't want to fight him again because he knows Chael will beat him. truth!

Where did I dispute that? But you can't classify this as ducking, it just doesn't qualify. Neither Anderson or Chael have fought or will fight anyone else since this thread was made. They will be fighting eachother. There was no duck.

Yeah but you cant dig this up and say we were wrong because Silva was ducking Chael at that time.


I have it on good authority that he is scurred! mmaeyes said so

That doesn't even make sense. He was ducking Chael how? By expressing his feelings on Chael as a contender? He was fucking injured, it's not like the fight could take place in the near future. It's not like he asked for someone else. Sounds to me like Spider accepted the fight. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't making any sense here.

At the same time I can read this and say you aren't making any sense either. He expressed he didn't want to fight Chael. Nobody meant while he had an injury either. He was asked if he was down to make Chael his NEXT fight and said everything possible to not fight Chael. Anderson still hasn't said he would anyways. Dana said he is fighting him whether he wants to or not. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't makeing any sense here.

It is beyond moronic to consider somone to duck someone when that person is the very same person that will be staring across from him in the cage in his NEXT fight. Anderson or Chael would have to have a fight in between for you to even begin that argument about ducking. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how Spider feels about a fight he is going to be in. If you want to say Spider is scared, go right on ahead and do that. But you can't declare that he ducked him, that isn't open for interpretation, that is very black and white. These two men will be fighting eachother the very next time they step into the cage. Simple as that BBC. The emotions or thoughts of each fighter is irrelevant.

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

You act like my boss here. Just treat us like we are dumb and can't see thru all the smoke.


Anderson Silva wants no part of Chael Sonnen. He doesn't want to fight him again because he knows Chael will beat him. truth!

Where did I dispute that? But you can't classify this as ducking, it just doesn't qualify. Neither Anderson or Chael have fought or will fight anyone else since this thread was made. They will be fighting eachother. There was no duck.

Yeah but you cant dig this up and say we were wrong because Silva was ducking Chael at that time.


I have it on good authority that he is scurred! mmaeyes said so

That doesn't even make sense. He was ducking Chael how? By expressing his feelings on Chael as a contender? He was fucking injured, it's not like the fight could take place in the near future. It's not like he asked for someone else. Sounds to me like Spider accepted the fight. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't making any sense here.

At the same time I can read this and say you aren't making any sense either. He expressed he didn't want to fight Chael. Nobody meant while he had an injury either. He was asked if he was down to make Chael his NEXT fight and said everything possible to not fight Chael. Anderson still hasn't said he would anyways. Dana said he is fighting him whether he wants to or not. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't makeing any sense here.

It is beyond moronic to consider somone to duck someone when that person is the very same person that will be staring across from him in the cage in his NEXT fight. Anderson or Chael would have to have a fight in between for you to even begin that argument about ducking. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how Spider feels about a fight he is going to be in. If you want to say Spider is scared, go right on ahead and do that. But you can't declare that he ducked him, that isn't open for interpretation, that is very black and white. These two men will be fighting eachother the very next time they step into the cage. Simple as that BBC. The emotions or thoughts of each fighter is irrelevant.

Anderson does/did not want to fight chael. He can make up all the excuses he wants. You digging up a post from ninja from almost 2 weeks ago doesn't mean anything is what I am getting at. Ask yourslef this....Would Anderson rather fight Bisping over Sonnen and why would he? You don't want to admit that Silva did not want to fight Chael and WAS ducking him. WAS DUCKING HIM. Did I say WAS?

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

You act like my boss here. Just treat us like we are dumb and can't see thru all the smoke.


Anderson Silva wants no part of Chael Sonnen. He doesn't want to fight him again because he knows Chael will beat him. truth!

Where did I dispute that? But you can't classify this as ducking, it just doesn't qualify. Neither Anderson or Chael have fought or will fight anyone else since this thread was made. They will be fighting eachother. There was no duck.

Yeah but you cant dig this up and say we were wrong because Silva was ducking Chael at that time.


I have it on good authority that he is scurred! mmaeyes said so

That doesn't even make sense. He was ducking Chael how? By expressing his feelings on Chael as a contender? He was fucking injured, it's not like the fight could take place in the near future. It's not like he asked for someone else. Sounds to me like Spider accepted the fight. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't making any sense here.

At the same time I can read this and say you aren't making any sense either. He expressed he didn't want to fight Chael. Nobody meant while he had an injury either. He was asked if he was down to make Chael his NEXT fight and said everything possible to not fight Chael. Anderson still hasn't said he would anyways. Dana said he is fighting him whether he wants to or not. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't makeing any sense here.

It is beyond moronic to consider somone to duck someone when that person is the very same person that will be staring across from him in the cage in his NEXT fight. Anderson or Chael would have to have a fight in between for you to even begin that argument about ducking. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how Spider feels about a fight he is going to be in. If you want to say Spider is scared, go right on ahead and do that. But you can't declare that he ducked him, that isn't open for interpretation, that is very black and white. These two men will be fighting eachother the very next time they step into the cage. Simple as that BBC. The emotions or thoughts of each fighter is irrelevant.

Anderson does/did not want to fight chael. He can make up all the excuses he wants. You digging up a post from ninja from almost 2 weeks ago doesn't mean anything is what I am getting at. Ask yourslef this....Would Anderson rather fight Bisping over Sonnen and why would he? You don't want to admit that Silva did not want to fight Chael and WAS ducking him. WAS DUCKING HIM. Did I say WAS?

What you are failing to comprehend is not wanting a fight and not taking the fight are two very different things. You can't duck a fighter if he is your next fight. It's really that simple BBC. Call him scared all you want since that is your opinion and open for debate. But you can't throw out the phrase duck because it just does not apply here. Ninja was wrong for posting it 2 weeks ago and this news is just confirmation of how silly and inaccurate the statement was.

I think Anderson has the bigger problem with Sonnen being given the opportunity against him. Actually beating him again, he doesn't have a problem with that, but just that Sonnen gets what he wants most, the attention, having his ego fed and name spoke because he's fighting Anderson, he probably is annoyed by that. It's a good thing for Sonnen but we've seen what a garbage character individual Sonnen is about this and it's obvious Anderson doesn't like him, when a man makes petty and personal insults about yourself, your race, your culture, your family, you don't want to see that person granted good things because of you.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I think Anderson has the bigger problem with Sonnen being given the opportunity against him. Actually beating him again, he doesn't have a problem with that, but just that Sonnen gets what he wants most, the attention, having his ego fed and name spoke because he's fighting Anderson, he probably is annoyed by that. It's a good thing for Sonnen but we've seen what a garbage character individual Sonnen is about this and it's obvious Anderson doesn't like him, when a man makes petty and personal insults about yourself, your race, your culture, your family, you don't want to see that person granted good things because of you.

well put.

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

This thread seems really unfair and premature now that Sonnen vs Spider has been announced. Just shows that there is a clear difference between not feeling your opponent is worthy and flat out declining the fight. Dana said Spider's camp doesn't feel Sonnen currently deserves the shot, but Spider will be fighting Sonnen. Doesn't really qualify as ducking.

You act like my boss here. Just treat us like we are dumb and can't see thru all the smoke.


Anderson Silva wants no part of Chael Sonnen. He doesn't want to fight him again because he knows Chael will beat him. truth!

Where did I dispute that? But you can't classify this as ducking, it just doesn't qualify. Neither Anderson or Chael have fought or will fight anyone else since this thread was made. They will be fighting eachother. There was no duck.

Yeah but you cant dig this up and say we were wrong because Silva was ducking Chael at that time.


I have it on good authority that he is scurred! mmaeyes said so

That doesn't even make sense. He was ducking Chael how? By expressing his feelings on Chael as a contender? He was fucking injured, it's not like the fight could take place in the near future. It's not like he asked for someone else. Sounds to me like Spider accepted the fight. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't making any sense here.

At the same time I can read this and say you aren't making any sense either. He expressed he didn't want to fight Chael. Nobody meant while he had an injury either. He was asked if he was down to make Chael his NEXT fight and said everything possible to not fight Chael. Anderson still hasn't said he would anyways. Dana said he is fighting him whether he wants to or not. I hate Anderson Silva but you aren't makeing any sense here.

It is beyond moronic to consider somone to duck someone when that person is the very same person that will be staring across from him in the cage in his NEXT fight. Anderson or Chael would have to have a fight in between for you to even begin that argument about ducking. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how Spider feels about a fight he is going to be in. If you want to say Spider is scared, go right on ahead and do that. But you can't declare that he ducked him, that isn't open for interpretation, that is very black and white. These two men will be fighting eachother the very next time they step into the cage. Simple as that BBC. The emotions or thoughts of each fighter is irrelevant.

Anderson does/did not want to fight chael. He can make up all the excuses he wants. You digging up a post from ninja from almost 2 weeks ago doesn't mean anything is what I am getting at. Ask yourslef this....Would Anderson rather fight Bisping over Sonnen and why would he? You don't want to admit that Silva did not want to fight Chael and WAS ducking him. WAS DUCKING HIM. Did I say WAS?

What you are failing to comprehend is not wanting a fight and not taking the fight are two very different things. You can't duck a fighter if he is your next fight. It's really that simple BBC. Call him scared all you want since that is your opinion and open for debate. But you can't throw out the phrase duck because it just does not apply here. Ninja was wrong for posting it 2 weeks ago and this news is just confirmation of how silly and inaccurate the statement was.

I understand perfectly what you are saying and I still stand firm with him ducking Chael a few weeks ago. By "ducking" I mean trying to weasel out of fighting Chael by all that he and his camp said. I know that they are gonna fight and he cannot duck Chael since DW said it, and they are gonna fight. I know I can't say he is ducking chael since they are fighting. Do I need to say that again?

I can still say that Anderson preferred to fight anyone but Chael. Silva knows Chael is the biggest challenge for his title and threat to his legacy.

Just because Dana forced Anderson to fight Chael that doesn't mean Anderson wasn't ducking him in the first place....how is this a hard concept to grasp?

Ninja wrote:

Just because Dana forced Anderson to fight Chael that doesn't mean Anderson wasn't ducking him in the first place....how is this a hard concept to grasp?

I guess if you really want to stretch it and be a total hater(I hate Spider more then you nanny nanny boo boo) you could make the statement that Anderson attempted to duck Chael Sonnen. But it's just not possible to claim that a duck took place in this situation. That is a fact.

Ninja wrote:

Just because Dana forced Anderson to fight Chael that doesn't mean Anderson wasn't ducking him in the first place....how is this a hard concept to grasp?

That's what I've been thinking.

OU wrote:

Ninja wrote:

Just because Dana forced Anderson to fight Chael that doesn't mean Anderson wasn't ducking him in the first place....how is this a hard concept to grasp?

I guess if you really want to stretch it and be a total hater(I hate Spider more then you nanny nanny boo boo) you could make the statement that Anderson attempted to duck Chael Sonnen. But it's just not possible to claim that a duck took place in this situation. That is a fact.

If mayweather were to fight Pacman in May would that magical erase all the times he ducked Manny and avoided the fight? Absolutely not. It's even worse in Anderson's situation because he is being forced to fight Chael.

Ninja wrote:

OU wrote:

Ninja wrote:

Just because Dana forced Anderson to fight Chael that doesn't mean Anderson wasn't ducking him in the first place....how is this a hard concept to grasp?

I guess if you really want to stretch it and be a total hater(I hate Spider more then you nanny nanny boo boo) you could make the statement that Anderson attempted to duck Chael Sonnen. But it's just not possible to claim that a duck took place in this situation. That is a fact.

If mayweather were to fight Pacman in May would that magical erase all the times he ducked Manny and avoided the fight? Absolutely not. It's even worse in Anderson's situation because he is being forced to fight Chael.

I love how you brought up that comparison. How many times has Pac or PBF fought since they called eachother out? How many different fighters have they faced? How long after calling him out and the actual fight is this hypothetical scenario? Because in this situation neither man would have fought a single time since Sonnen called out Anderson and the fight is already made 1 month after Sonnen called him out. Just 2 weeks after you made this ridiculous claim of ducking this fight is on. Again it's beyond stretching the meaning of the phrase.

It's not even a debatable topic, it's extremely cut and dry. The fight is made which makes it impossible for someone to even suggest any ducking. You can't duck the person you are scheduled to fight next. It just does not make sense.

again, i don't know the reason why Anderson constantly says he does not want to fight such and such an opponent, cause there is no doubt he def says this alot.

But being as how he has fought, and beat every single fighter he was in line to fight since coming to the UFC, and being as how he is now set to fight Chael yet again, the ducking claim needs to be thrown into the trash can.

Can't believe people are still clinging to it.

Well I can beleive beast clings to it, dudes from Kentucky. But Ninja?

OU wrote:

It's not even a debatable topic, it's extremely cut and dry. The fight is made which makes it impossible for someone to even suggest any ducking. You can't duck the person you are scheduled to fight next. It just does not make sense.

Are you seriously going this route OU? Silva showed us all that he did not want to fight Chael and never said he was. DW said it on Rome yesterday. He is making Silva fight even though Silva and company said they didn't want a fight with Chael because ______.
So he has ducked or was ducking Silva. Now that he is being made to fight Silva he cannot duck him any longer. He did try to weasel out of a fight with Chael after getting beat on for almost 5 rounds. I wouldn't want to fight a guy that did that to me even if I subbed him in the last 2 minutes. I would do it if my boss made me, but I would not want to by any means. That means I would be trying to duck that fighter.

OU wrote:

It's not even a debatable topic, it's extremely cut and dry. The fight is made which makes it impossible for someone to even suggest any ducking. You can't duck the person you are scheduled to fight next. It just does not make sense.

My prick boss the other day wanted me to go get him a cup of coffee and absolutely didn't want to do it. I told him no. He said if you don't do it now your ass if fired, so I went and got the prick the coffee. Was I ducking my boss from getting the coffee? Certainly.

Ninja wrote:

OU wrote:

Ninja wrote:

Just because Dana forced Anderson to fight Chael that doesn't mean Anderson wasn't ducking him in the first place....how is this a hard concept to grasp?

I guess if you really want to stretch it and be a total hater(I hate Spider more then you nanny nanny boo boo) you could make the statement that Anderson attempted to duck Chael Sonnen. But it's just not possible to claim that a duck took place in this situation. That is a fact.

If mayweather were to fight Pacman in May would that magical erase all the times he ducked Manny and avoided the fight? Absolutely not. It's even worse in Anderson's situation because he is being forced to fight Chael.

Floyd ain't ducking Manny, they both are diva's with ridiculous egos.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/12/5/2612994/ufc-dan-henderson-anderson-silva-rematch-michael-bisping
@danhendo
Dan Henderson@Nik_junior All the "injuries" that keep Anderson from a rematch w/ me or Chael will heal real fast if they offer Bisping to him.

haha, probably right... but then again, can you blame him?