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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:46 pm | |
| http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/09/25/quinton-rampage-jackson-on-ufc-135-performance-i-choked/Page talks about his loss to Jon Jones this past saturday, what' the deal with his walkout music? On his walkout music- Page just wanted to remind everybody that he is a winner no matter what cause he got out of the ghetto. "No matter who I fight win or lose(know what I'm saying lol) I'm already a winner cause I dodged that bullet, I've dodged bullets litterally I'm just glad to be where I am". On his gameplan- "the gameplan was to use my head movement to get close to him" "We had a great gameplan I just choked" Page says "I was worried about the wrong things, worried about getting poked in the eye I just wasn't myself out there." On why he choked- "I don't know I think it was his reach it bothered me alittle" On respect for Jon Jones "I respect him cause he beat me at my best" | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:51 pm | |
| I honestly think Jones had Rampage scared of him, whether you agree with that or not he was def far more cautious than he should've been. | |
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cascade_run Purple Belt
Posts : 1076 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:20 pm | |
| I don't know if he choked, but it is not like the reach was just something that showed up all of a sudden, and a hand in your face, knock it away, move lateral and side to side, instead of straight in, I think he had one game plan and that is just not going to work against someone like Jones | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:47 pm | |
| I think it's the same with Anderson and Jones, if you sit back and wait to see what they do your fucked. Their opponents have alot better of a chance if they stay in their face and bring the fight to them. Although Anderson has proved that he can KO a dude while going backwards.
However you want to say it, Page just wasn't aggressive enough, didn't let his hands go and that's why he looked like crap.
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:15 pm | |
| I said before the fight and I will say it now, Page knew he couldn't win and had a fear of this fight with Jones. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:47 pm | |
| - bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- I said before the fight and I will say it now, Page knew he couldn't win and had a fear of this fight with Jones.
I disagree. he thought he could beat the kid and quickly realized it was harder than he thought. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:57 pm | |
| Fear has nothing to do with any of this. Implying so is pretty ridiculous, like saying Diaz doesn't duck tough fights or something. Nobody was scared of a thing out there on Saturday. Bones was just better, closest fight he has been in since Bonnar, and longest. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:28 pm | |
| I don't think he was afraid at all. I think when he started to realize he couldn't close the distance on Jones by being the aggressor, and started hanging back hoping to close on the counter or slip and press. I was really impressed with Rampage's ability to keep Jones from manhandling him in the clinch. Yeah Jones muscled him into the fence every time but he couldn't get the trip or the throw. Unfortunately for Jackson the striking attack of Jones was just too much to process for him. Who knows if he could have had success if he just went out guns blazing, but whats clear is there is no simple way to beat Jon Jones right now.
There is no simple blueprint gameplan that is going to take him out of there like what GSP did to Koscheck. What it's going to take is either a better, or equal wrestler who has at least a similar amount of athleticism but competant enough striking to not get ruined standing. Right now the only fighters in the division I can see who have those qualifications are Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans, and King Mo . Jones' next two fights should be interesting. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:28 pm | |
| I guess I shouldn't have used the word fear or scared. Maybe I should've just said Page knew he couldn't beat him before, during, and after the fight. That wasn't the Rampage that we have been watching all of these years though, and confidence wasn't there like it was in the 2nd fight with Chuck and the 3rd fight with Wandy. If it makes him/us feel better to say that he choked, then so be it. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:32 pm | |
| The confidence wasn't there like in those fights between Chuck and Wandy aren't hard to punch in the face. Bones is | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:34 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- The confidence wasn't there like in those fights between Chuck and Wandy aren't hard to punch in the face. Bones is
Exactly, Thanks! If you're not confident then what are you anyways? | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:00 pm | |
| I believe he was very confident going in and about 2 minutes into the 1st round he realized damn this dude is hard to hit! | |
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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:02 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- I believe he was very confident going in and about 2 minutes into the 1st round he realized damn this dude is hard to hit!
especially if you dont throw punches. rampage showed great movement especially in close , he avoided most of jones arsonal but never got off. I told people before the fight page had to slip and throw to get inside preferabally get off first. Not only did he not he reacted to jones which is bad IMO unless you throw off of every strike jones throws. those knee kicks while effective could have been answered with a 1,2 to get within reach. Jones really was concerned about rampages power and it showed. I think rampage needs new evolving fighters to train with. Possibly a sports shrink aswell | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:35 am | |
| - bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- I guess I shouldn't have used the word fear or scared.
Ditto | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:54 am | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- I guess I shouldn't have used the word fear or scared.
Ditto Ditto as in you used the words also, or ditto as in you're wrong like everyone else? | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:22 am | |
| Ditto in that I agree I shouldn't have used those words. I feel bad for calling any fighter scared, even tho I'm not really changing my position I should have used deferent words | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:35 am | |
| "Someone has to get in the ring and not be afraid of him ... His last few fights, you see guys get in the ring with Jon Jones and they know it, you can just see in their body language, [they're thinking] 'At some point in time he's going to do something ridiculous that I can't identify and something's going to hit me and I'm going to wake up later on. The guy can fight you anywhere, he can take you anywhere. But, he's also developed this reputation and this aura about him that's just really intimidating."- Pat Barry
I guess me and Beast aren't the only ones to claim Page looked intimidated. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:37 am | |
| I think Pat is saying he is scared of Bones, Page wasn't scared of shit. | |
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OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:38 am | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- I think Pat is saying he is scared of Bones, Page wasn't scared of shit.
Yeah scared is wrong. But he did seem to be intimidated by the reach. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:42 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- Yeah scared is wrong. But he did seem to be intimidated by the reach.
Intimidated=scared. It's the same thing really one just sounds worse. Out of respect I'll say intimidated | |
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OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:44 am | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- OU wrote:
- Yeah scared is wrong. But he did seem to be intimidated by the reach.
Intimidated=scared. It's the same thing really one just sounds worse. Out of respect I'll say intimidated Eh, similar but not the same. Being worried about something and afraid of something, is slightly different IMO. | |
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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:00 pm | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- "Someone has to get in the ring and not be afraid of him ... His last few fights, you see guys get in the ring with Jon Jones and they know it, you can just see in their body language, [they're thinking] 'At some point in time he's going to do something ridiculous that I can't identify and something's going to hit me and I'm going to wake up later on. The guy can fight you anywhere, he can take you anywhere. But, he's also developed this reputation and this aura about him that's just really intimidating."- Pat Barry
I guess me and Beast aren't the only ones to claim Page looked intimidated. yeah pat barry is also a bumblefuck | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:04 pm | |
| - Cu Bu wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- "Someone has to get in the ring and not be afraid of him ... His last few fights, you see guys get in the ring with Jon Jones and they know it, you can just see in their body language, [they're thinking] 'At some point in time he's going to do something ridiculous that I can't identify and something's going to hit me and I'm going to wake up later on. The guy can fight you anywhere, he can take you anywhere. But, he's also developed this reputation and this aura about him that's just really intimidating."- Pat Barry
I guess me and Beast aren't the only ones to claim Page looked intimidated. yeah pat barry is also a bumblefuck LOL yeah ever since I saw that tapout tv ad he did with the upsidedown glasses on it's been hard to take him seriously | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:37 pm | |
| Fanboyism is a word that should be created and used for this thread. I love Rampage and wanted him to KO Bones, but I will call it like I see it when it comes to any fighter or any fight. Keep it real fella's even if it hurts to say it. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Pages say's he choked Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:57 pm | |
| Intimidate- To make timid or fearful
Fanboyism- To not admit certain things due to fear of being proven wrong in any way, shape, or form.
bbc12- King of Kings, Asshole, Cung Le's jockstrap. | |
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