Trolling: Who does it and why?

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:39 pm

Ali wrote:

OU wrote:: Kind of reminds me of this dumb cunt my boy was fucking around with.
Stupid bitch is talking about how she could never live in this town again(she was only down visiting) because everyone is always in her business. Well you stupid cunt, if you didn't tell the world on Facebook every thing you are doing, maybe that shit wouldn't happen.
Anyone that has a Facebook or any social media account is fair game. Troll away.

OU, the guy targeted teenagers who'd died in an accident, this wasn't a can't handle the heat in the kitchen scenario, twas just a sad cruel vindictive man.

So what? Who really cares what some random mother fucker on the internet says about anything? It all comes back to being a YOU problem because you can't ignore some dumbass who you don't even know. If your mom died and I went on Facebook and said "Good, that bitch deserved to die". I should then be arrested? I can't say "Can I fuck her one last time"? Come on now. That's gayness.

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GDPofDRC wrote:: Trolling: Who does it and why?

An internet "troll" has been jailed for mocking dead teenagers on various websites. Public figures, including Stephen Fry and Miranda Hart, have also been victims of trolling. So what is it and why do people do it?

The word comes from a Norse monster but the troll is a very modern menace. For some it's the internet equivalent of road rage, vandalising a grave, or kicking a man when he's down.

Trolling is a phenomenon that has swept across websites in recent years. Online forums, Facebook pages and newspaper comment forms are bombarded with insults, provocations or threats. Supporters argue it's about humour, mischief and freedom of speech. But for many the ferocity and personal nature of the abuse verges on hate speech.

In its most extreme form it is a criminal offence. On Tuesday Sean Duffy was jailed for 18 weeks after posting offensive messages and videos on tribute pages about young people who had died. One of those he targeted was 15-year-old Natasha MacBryde, who had been killed by a train. "I fell asleep on the track lolz" was one of the messages he left on a Facebook page set up by her family.

Duffy is the second person to be jailed for trolling in the UK. Last year Colm Coss was imprisoned for posting obscene messages on Facebook tribute sites, including that of Jade Goody.

Trolling appears to be part of an international phenomenon that includes cyberbullying. One of the first high-profile cases emerged in the US state of Missouri in 2006, when 13-year-old Megan Meier killed herself after being bullied online. The bully, Lori Drew, was a middle-aged neighbour who had set up a MySpace account to win - and later betray - her trust. Drew was acquitted of unauthorised computer use in 2009 due to concerns that a conviction would criminalise false online identities.

The First Amendment of the US Constitution protects free speech and makes it difficult to punish people who post offensive messages. But concern over internet vitriol is growing.

Facebook's former marketing director Randi Zuckerberg and Google head Eric Schmidt have both suggested anonymous posting should be phased out.

One of the difficulties is that trolling is a broad term, taking in everything from a cheeky provocation to violent threats. And why people do it continues to baffle the experts.

"Online people feel anonymous and disinhibited," says Prof Mark Griffiths, director of the International Gaming Research Unit at Nottingham Trent University. "They lower their emotional guard and in the heat of the moment may troll either reactively or proactively."

It is usually carried out by young adult males for amusement, boredom and revenge, he adds.

Arthur Cassidy, a social media psychologist, says young people's determination to create an online identity makes them vulnerable to trolling. Secrecy is jettisoned in favour of self-publicity on Facebook, opening the way for ridicule, jealousy and betrayal.

And the need to define themselves through their allegiance to certain celebrities creates a world in which the rich and famous become targets for personal abuse. As a result trolling is "virtually uncontrollable" until the government forces websites to clamp down, he says.

But it's not just young people. Scan any football, music or fan site and there are people of all ages taking part in the most vituperative attacks. But many of the theories that have been put forward as to why people do it don't stand up, says Tom Postnes, professor of social psychology at Groningen University in the Netherlands.

After researching "flaming" - the term for trolling in the early days of the internet - he rejects the idea that people "lose it" when online. If anything they become more attuned to social convention, albeit the specific conventions of the web. Provoking people appears to be the norm in some online communities, he says.

Most trolling is not criminal - it's about having a laugh, says Rob Manuel, co-founder of the website B3ta, which specialises in altering photographs for comic effect. "Trolling taps into people's desire to poke fun, make trouble and cause annoyance," he says.

He first became aware of the phenomenon in the 90s when a friend cross-posted on fan sites for Lord of the Rings and Star Wars, asking: "Who'd win in a fight - the Emperor or Gandalf?" Manuel says his friend sat back and laughed like some "mad scientist looking at insects in a jar" as hundreds of passionate posts followed.
'No guilt'

We're all capable of becoming a troll, says Jaron Lanier, a computer scientist in the US and author of You Are Not A Gadget. Lanier admits he has sometimes behaved badly online and believes the cloak of anonymity can encourage people to react in extreme ways.

"The temptation is there and we can get caught up in impulses. If someone reacts, it's emotional and it can be hard to get out of. We can all become trolls."

Twitter has given the public direct access to celebrities. And stars, including Stephen Fry and Miranda Hart, have temporarily left the website after coming under fire. Internet experts say the key is not to "feed the troll" by offering them a response. Comedian Dom Joly takes a different approach.

He describes himself as "troll slayer" and takes pleasure in tracking down the culprits and exposing them to public shame, especially from close family.

"There's something about a bully that really annoys me," he says. "They'll say something online that they'd never dare to say to your face."

The deviousness is "freaky". He discovered that one of those who'd threatened him was a 14-year-old girl with nine different online identities. They aren't always very intelligent about how they do it, he says.

"One guy tweeted from his work account that he hoped my kids die of cancer. I let the MD of the firm know and the guy was fired. I felt no guilt, he should have gone to prison."

Some think regulation is needed, but trolling is not the internet's fault, says Jeff Jarvis, author of Public Parts. "The internet does not create special threats. It's a public square where people will be saying all sorts of things, some of them offensive."

The answer is for newspaper websites and online forums to employ sufficient moderators to prevent the comments spiralling into petty vendettas, he says. To ban online anonymity in order to prevent trolling would be to remove the right of whistleblowers and dissidents to get their message across, he adds.

Manuel agrees. "People are saying nasty, stupid things. So deal with it. Shutting down free speech and stamping on people's civil liberties is not a price worth paying."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14898564

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OU wrote:

Ali wrote:

OU wrote:: Kind of reminds me of this dumb cunt my boy was fucking around with.
Stupid bitch is talking about how she could never live in this town again(she was only down visiting) because everyone is always in her business. Well you stupid cunt, if you didn't tell the world on Facebook every thing you are doing, maybe that shit wouldn't happen.
Anyone that has a Facebook or any social media account is fair game. Troll away.

OU, the guy targeted teenagers who'd died in an accident, this wasn't a can't handle the heat in the kitchen scenario, twas just a sad cruel vindictive man.

So what? Who really cares what some random mother fucker on the internet says about anything? It all comes back to being a YOU problem because you can't ignore some dumbass who you don't even know. If your mom died and I went on Facebook and said "Good, that bitch deserved to die". I should then be arrested? I can't say "Can I fuck her one last time"? Come on now. That's gayness.

It wasn't a one off comment, the guy was repeatedly hounding families.

Have no problem with throwing him in jail, he's a nasty piece of work.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:46 pm

Ali wrote:

OU wrote:

Ali wrote:

OU wrote:: Kind of reminds me of this dumb cunt my boy was fucking around with.
Stupid bitch is talking about how she could never live in this town again(she was only down visiting) because everyone is always in her business. Well you stupid cunt, if you didn't tell the world on Facebook every thing you are doing, maybe that shit wouldn't happen.
Anyone that has a Facebook or any social media account is fair game. Troll away.

OU, the guy targeted teenagers who'd died in an accident, this wasn't a can't handle the heat in the kitchen scenario, twas just a sad cruel vindictive man.

So what? Who really cares what some random mother fucker on the internet says about anything? It all comes back to being a YOU problem because you can't ignore some dumbass who you don't even know. If your mom died and I went on Facebook and said "Good, that bitch deserved to die". I should then be arrested? I can't say "Can I fuck her one last time"? Come on now. That's gayness.

It wasn't a one off comment, the guy was repeatedly hounding families.

Have no problem with throwing him in jail, he's a nasty piece of work.

I'm sure he got some EPIC reactions, of course he was going to keep harassing people. Haven't they heard the #1 rule? DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
But anyways the thought that anyone could go to jail for trolling on Facebook or Youtube is disturbing.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:12 pm

Speaking of Trolls... lol

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum_framed.frame&thread=1875223

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:35 pm

Hendo FTW!!!! awesome response

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:00 am

That Hendo ownage was beautiful.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:49 pm

SVP is talking about some trolling right now. Some of the FSU guys have made comments about Austin Box and his family and also reference the OKC bombings. Sounds like a nice troll job. Box's sister said she is having a hard time not responding. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:54 pm

Have they made any reference to her last name?

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:56 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:: Have they made any reference to her last name?

Not sure if they have directly commented about her. But I'm sure by this point, someone has.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:15 pm

Enabled idiots will only grow. But in reality, more people should be trolling the dead, I mean they died, they deserve to be disrespected.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:55 pm

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:34 pm

[10:13:39 26/10/11] @ OU : so what brought you here?
[10:15:18 26/10/11] DAGYORK : i need a help
[10:15:50 26/10/11] @ OU : help with what?
[10:15:59 26/10/11] @ OU : how did you get directed here for help?
[10:17:42 26/10/11] DAGYORK : i just hope too find someone who can help me out men
[10:21:08 26/10/11] DAGYORK : are u there
[10:21:12 26/10/11] @ OU : yep
[10:21:25 26/10/11] @ OU : are you male or female?
[10:21:46 26/10/11] DAGYORK : female
[10:22:14 26/10/11] @ OU : we don't get too many females around here lol
[10:22:41 26/10/11] DAGYORK : am just one of you guy's
[10:22:51 26/10/11] @ OU : what is the meaning of your username?
[10:23:24 26/10/11] @ OU : pretty harsh language used around here
[10:23:35 26/10/11] DAGYORK : the starting of my name and the end of it
[10:23:53 26/10/11] @ OU : makes sense
[10:24:40 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : hello new guy
[10:24:48 26/10/11] @ OU : new lady
[10:24:54 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : whoops
[10:25:10 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : well hello good looking Wink

[10:25:47 26/10/11] DAGYORK : am about 2 enter university that is my problem nopw
[10:26:00 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : how is that a problem?
[10:26:09 26/10/11] @ OU : here in the states?
[10:26:13 26/10/11] DAGYORK : killerofchicken hi
[10:26:27 26/10/11] DAGYORK : yes
[10:26:40 26/10/11] @ OU : have you ever been to the states?
[10:27:10 26/10/11] @ OU : did you have any culture shock coming over killer? or where you too young for that?
[10:27:10 26/10/11] DAGYORK : your state
[10:27:33 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : culture shock up the ying yang
[10:27:36 26/10/11] @ OU : i doubt you have been to Oklahoma since no one visits Oklahoma lol. I mean the US.
[10:27:39 26/10/11] DAGYORK : killerofchicken are u there
[10:27:42 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : where are you from york?
[10:27:53 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : yes i am here
[10:27:55 26/10/11] @ OU : Nigeria
[10:28:02 26/10/11] DAGYORK : am form african
[10:28:06 26/10/11] DAGYORK : and you
[10:28:15 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : Bosnia
[10:28:23 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : europe, lol
[10:28:35 26/10/11] DAGYORK : OU i say in town
[10:28:43 26/10/11] DAGYORK : killerofchicken ok
[10:29:16 26/10/11] DAGYORK : OU so i need help
[10:29:25 26/10/11] DAGYORK : killerofchicken okj
[10:29:25 26/10/11] @ OU : how can I help?
[10:30:09 26/10/11] DAGYORK : just for 2 pay my school feeOU
[10:30:11 26/10/11] @ OU : timmay?
[10:30:26 26/10/11] @ timthebim : What up OU???
[10:30:31 26/10/11] @ OU : you need information on college grants?
[10:30:33 26/10/11] DAGYORK : killerofchicken are u there
[10:30:40 26/10/11] @ OU : Just back at work
[10:30:52 26/10/11] @ timthebim : DagYork?
[10:31:10 26/10/11] @ timthebim : New guy?
[10:31:20 26/10/11] @ OU : female, Nigeria, aparently looking for information
[10:31:46 26/10/11] DAGYORK : OU no i need too pay my school fees now i have been giving five day work too payed it
[10:31:56 26/10/11] DAGYORK : timthebim yahhh
[10:32:13 26/10/11] @ OU : are you looking for money from us?
[10:33:03 26/10/11] DAGYORK : OU just too asist me please if can do that for
[10:33:17 26/10/11] @ OU : assist you by giving you money?
[10:34:39 26/10/11] DAGYORK : just a tukey change
[10:35:01 26/10/11] @ OU : you have a pen?
[10:35:07 26/10/11] @ OU : here is my credit card information
[10:35:20 26/10/11] DAGYORK : yes
[10:35:33 26/10/11] @ OU : OK it's a Mastercard
[10:35:38 26/10/11] @ OU : will that work?
[10:36:17 26/10/11] DAGYORK : please send it with wester transfer money please
[10:36:51 26/10/11] @ OU : will Western Union work?
[10:37:25 26/10/11] DAGYORK : yes
[10:37:54 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : i got a sack of gold that i carry around for cases like this one
[10:38:00 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : how much gold will be enough
[10:38:59 26/10/11] DAGYORK : they dont accept credit card Nigeria
[10:40:49 26/10/11] DAGYORK : are u there
[10:41:55 26/10/11] @ OU : yea sorry
[10:41:59 26/10/11] @ OU : had to grab it
[10:42:11 26/10/11] DAGYORK : ok
[10:42:18 26/10/11] DAGYORK : how now
[10:42:25 26/10/11] @ OU : I only have about 1,000 to give
[10:42:33 26/10/11] @ OU : I'm not a rich man
[10:43:05 26/10/11] DAGYORK : please make it 2,000
[10:43:30 26/10/11] @ OU : OK, just for you
[10:43:38 26/10/11] DAGYORK : god will be it you and your family
[10:43:48 26/10/11] DAGYORK : thanks
[10:44:53 26/10/11] @ OU : sorry but I don't belive in God
[10:44:54 26/10/11] DAGYORK : can you give the information and code 2 collect it
[10:45:04 26/10/11] DAGYORK : ok
[10:45:18 26/10/11] DAGYORK : sorry for that dear
[10:45:35 26/10/11] @ OU : no problem, to each their own.
[10:45:39 26/10/11] @ OU : I'm just a simple man.
[10:45:55 26/10/11] @ OU : OK this may take awhile to process and everything. Never done it before.
[10:46:14 26/10/11] DAGYORK : ok
[10:46:32 26/10/11] @ OU : So after to graduate from college I will get a return in my investment?
[10:50:13 26/10/11] @ OU : are you still there?
[10:50:24 26/10/11] @ OU : guess you don't want my money
[10:50:26 26/10/11] DAGYORK : this is my private e-mail you can send the information to there (dagyork@gmail.com) bcos am in commercial cafe
[10:50:51 26/10/11] @ OU : so will I get a return in my investment?
[10:51:14 26/10/11] @ OU : what % of your lifetime earnings will I now earn?
[10:51:28 26/10/11] DAGYORK : my parent are cring for they poor
[10:51:32 26/10/11] @ timthebim : OU what the hell is this LOL?
[10:51:39 26/10/11] @ OU : my parents are dead
[10:51:47 26/10/11] @ OU : so you should be thankful
[10:51:56 26/10/11] DAGYORK : you dont worry just do this fro me
[10:52:15 26/10/11] DAGYORK : sorry for that too
[10:52:19 26/10/11] @ OU : Did you LOL Timmy?
[10:52:47 26/10/11] DAGYORK : yes
[10:52:51 26/10/11] @ OU : I was adopted at a very young age, by a money hungry whore.
[10:53:02 26/10/11] @ timthebim : Yes
[10:53:08 26/10/11] DAGYORK : i have 4mis left now
[10:53:12 26/10/11] @ OU : I was arrested for assaulting her when I was 16
[10:53:22 26/10/11] @ timthebim : I didnt do it cause u said your parents were dead
[10:53:27 26/10/11] DAGYORK : ok
[10:53:27 26/10/11] @ OU : but we made sweet love a year later
[10:53:36 26/10/11] @ timthebim : I did it because of this whole convo
[10:53:44 26/10/11] DAGYORK : that it good
[10:54:12 26/10/11] DAGYORK : plz promise that you will do that for me
[10:54:27 26/10/11] @ killerofchicken : wtf
[10:54:34 26/10/11] @ timthebim : OU what is going on here?
[10:55:03 26/10/11] @ OU : I love trolling
[10:55:06 26/10/11] @ OU : it's so fun at times
[10:55:11 26/10/11] @ timthebim : Maybe I can throw a couple bucks in with u to help my new friend DAGYORK
[10:55:31 26/10/11] @ OU : this conversation needs to be saved

For slightly more context, check out the post here:
https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t10287p60-a-chat-option#266513
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Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:41 pm

troll of the year award

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:05 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:: Why should someone go to prison for saying they hope your kids die of cancer

would you re arrange someones face if they hoped your loved ones died of cancer?

Oh and its simple assault

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:07 pm

Cu Bu wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:: Why should someone go to prison for saying they hope your kids die of cancer

would you seriously re arrange someones face if they hoped your loved ones died of cancer? I would take that as hostile intent and would rather eliminate a possible threat to me or my loved ones.

So in short Someone might go to jail because they are an idiot and probably not fit for society if they would spew that without thinking they might be killed or hurt.

Oh and its assault

You can hope and pray all you want that me an my family are raped and murdered. No sweat off my balls.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:13 pm

I think the people that unable to live in society are the ones that can allow complete strangers to use words, that aren't even threats, to effect their lives.

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:10 pm

dude trolling that Nigerian was the best thing in the history of this board. AWESOME I SAY, AWESOME!

Subject: Re: Trolling: Who does it and why? Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:07 pm

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:: dude trolling that Nigerian was the best thing in the history of this board. AWESOME I SAY, AWESOME!

It made me feel real good inside. But WTF really? I'm suppose to buy that story? Well deserved.

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