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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 11:56 am

and their getting Belator... clearly lol
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http://mmajunkie.com/news/25134/fans-invited-to-fridays-bellator-49-weigh-ins.mma
The official weigh-in ceremony for this weekend's Bellator 49 event is free and open to the public.

The festivities take place this Friday, Sept. 9, at the Palladium Ballroom at Caesars Atlantic City in New Jersey. The first fighter hits the scale at 5 p.m. ET, and MMAjunkie.com will carry a live video stream of the proceedings.

The same property also hosts the following day's MTV2-televised Bellator 49 event.

Bellator 49 features the four opening-round bouts of Bellator's season-five welterweight tournament. The four fights include Dan Hornbuckle (22-4 MMA, 3-2 BFC) vs. Luis Santos (49-6-1 MMA, 0-0 BFC), Chris Cisneros (11-3 MMA, 0-0 BFC) vs. Ben Saunders (10-3-2 MMA, 1-0 BFC), Chris Lozano (8-1 MMA, 1-1 BFC) vs. Brent Weedman (18-6-1 MMA, 4-1 BFC) and Steve Carl (14-2 MMA, 2-1 BFC) vs. Douglas Lima (18-4 MMA, 0-0 BFC).

Additionally, the night's five-bout preliminary card will be streamed on Spike.com, a first for Bellator.

The full Bellator 49 lineup includes:

MAIN CARD (MTV2)

Dan Hornbuckle vs. Luis Santos (welterweight-tourney opening round)
Chris Cisneros vs. Ben Saunders (welterweight-tourney opening round)
Chris Lozano vs. Brent Weedman (welterweight-tourney opening round)
Steve Carl vs. Douglas Lima (welterweight-tourney opening round)

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com)

Joel Roberts vs. Brylan Van Artsdalen
Giedrius Karavackas vs. LeVon Maynard
Alexandre "Popo" Bezerra vs. Scott Heckman
Lester Caslow vs. James "Binky" Jones
Azunna Anyanwu vs. J.A. Dudley
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 1:14 pm

Spike will get SF in a deal that also involves the UFC getting their own library back. They are using Bellator as a negotiating tool. So it is wolf written.
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Spike will get SF in a deal that also involves the UFC getting their own library back. They are using Bellator as a negotiating tool. So it is wolf written.
Wanna bet? I'll give you the odds. If SF ends up on SPIKE you own my sig for 1 month. If Bellator ends up on SPIKE I own your sig for 1 week.
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Yeeeah I didn't think so lol, Bellator to SPIKE. It's going to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 1:28 pm

Ok. But in order for bellator to move to Spike the UFC has to buy the rights back...would they do that and turn over the station? The UFC? No way. Spike needs fresh MMA now. SF needs home. Writings on the wall.
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Spikes not gonna go a year without fresh mma dude. Ufc holds all the cards.
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 1:32 pm

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Ok. But in order for bellator to move to Spike the UFC has to buy the rights back...would they do that and turn over the station? The UFC? No way. Spike needs fresh MMA now. SF needs home. Writings on the wall.
Then take the bet. If you really beleive that, which I don't think you do.
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 1:36 pm

I said ok dumbdick. Lol. A Bellator deal never happens. Its possible in a year n a half but Sf will be there already.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
I said ok dumbdick. Lol. A Bellator deal never happens. Its possible in a year n a half but Sf will be there already.
SF will not have a single event on SPIKE. When you lose you must take it like a man Wolf. You must have the picture and text I select. No adding of text. Just take it like a man.
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When will Bellator make it to Spike?
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 4:36 pm

I don't think Wolf's scenario is off the wall.

However, I don't think Spike is clamoring for a org that will continue to see it's best fighters siphoned off. Shit even SF fighters see it as a dieing org.

Nor do I think the UFC holds all the cards. As noted in the article a Spike re-air of Nate outdrew a Vs live event of Nate(shows the level of intellect of a certain segment of the MMA audience but that's a different debate). If the UFC wants to keep Bellator off of Spike for the year, they can be assured of counter programming at every step of the way. So the facebook prelims will take a big hit, even live airs of FX will take a hit.

I don't know if it was mentioned anywhere, but with Spike owning the rights to the library does that mean Fox will not have access? They do seem to be being used in commercials correct? Can Fx right now(or whenever the contract officially kicks in) show UFC unleashed?

This would all play a part in Fox's/the UFC's thinking. It might be in the UFC's best interest to wipe their hands of the whole Spike deal and make the break clean.
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 4:37 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
When will Bellator make it to Spike?
Good question, one that was the topic of a recent article I read:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/25140/sources-bellator-moving-from-mtv2-to-spike-tv-its-not-if-but-when.mma

We might have to wait awile, but it will happen. Could happen sooner since SPIKE might just want to unload the UFC library so they can move on. Zuffa could probably get a nice deal for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 4:48 pm

Strikeforce has lost a hand full. And still has a roster that makes Bellator look like the third MMA brand that they are. The current model will be changed. Sf will be retained no matter what King Mo says.
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PostSubject: Re: Spike to air Bellator pre lims online   Spike to air Bellator pre lims online - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 08, 2011 4:53 pm

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Strikeforce has lost a hand full. And still has a roster that makes Bellator look like the third MMA brand that they are. The current model will be changed. Sf will be retained no matter what King Mo says.


But u r ignoring the fact that Sf will continue to lose fighters. In fact it will never retain any of it's top fighters. This is by definition of a feeder league.

Throw spike $$$ behind Bellator and it quickly raises it's talent level.


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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Strikeforce has lost a hand full. And still has a roster that makes Bellator look like the third MMA brand that they are. The current model will be changed. Sf will be retained no matter what King Mo says.
You being so damn sure just comes off as annoying. SF's fate is still up in the air, Bellator is the clear favorite to land on SPIKE. Those are the facts we are currently dealing with. But go ahead, declare more "facts".
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I swear you have to be a Zuffa employee these days. With all that you "know" and your change of views toward Bellator.
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Wolf is trying to get into the MMA media, and he knows if he ever wants to have UFC access, he has to sell the product.
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These are just realities. No bias. Sf has a lot of great fighters. I dont see where this omg feeder league stuff comes from. I know and you know how the UFC deals w competition.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
These are just realities. No bias. Sf has a lot of great fighters. I dont see where this omg feeder league stuff comes from. I know and you know how the UFC deals w competition.

Uh maybe it comes from the fact that within 6 months of the purchase, SF has lost more of it's champions to the UFC then it has had major events. 60% of their mens champs are no longer in the org. Where does the feeder league idea come from? wtf bro, open ur eyes.
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Why does that make them some kind of leper? Thats my question.
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Why does that make them some kind of leper? Thats my question.


It's all about the TV deals. What television station wants to build up fighters, only to transport them off to a competing network when the fighter attains the level of champion? U don't think showtime wants them back do u? And this article certainly makes it look like Spike wants Bellator(which was pretty obvious from the begining). And without TV $$$ and TV exposure, any sport product is nothing.

Leper is actually a great description for what is going on. the loss of bodily parts which disfigures the victim to the point where no one wants to be near that person. I think it fits SF better then Mo's cancer patient analogy.

And it's less of a politically insensitve analogy as well.
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I covered this in the blog. Ill repost here. I don't think it is fair to say a network, Spike or otherwise, wouldn't want a "feede league". There is this idea that networks only get into MMA if they believe they can have serious growth or challenge the UFC. At this point, that is completely unreasonable. I believe a network, especially Spike, would rather do business with the same stable company they have been, using a brand with UFC affiliations, than they would a risky upstart in Bellator. Less risk, much more reward. UFC on Fox advertising muscle. As long as Strikeforce is redefined, I think it could do just fine on a Spike TV that promotes the fighters there as future UFC stars. It would be an easy sell -the winners on this show move on to the UFC. It would be another avenue for the UFC to generate contenders. If a Lorenz Larkin won the 205 pound title for instance, it wouldn't take long for fans to begi clamoring for him to test himself against the UFC elite. Zuffa would also stand to generat money from a Spike(or where ever) TV deal. They did not pay 40 million for six contracts. SF would have women stars like Gina who blow any Bellator star away. Bellator has few serious draws..who never fight and never ever fight credible challenges in most divisions. Strikeforce clearly wouldn't rely on long term champs but entertaining fighters, ufc vets, up and comers and wmma could be enough.
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I saw Eddie Alvarez was on TNA on Spike tonight promoting his fight with Chandler.
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