Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:12 am

Ali wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

Ali wrote:

freakzilla wrote:: Machida has done nothing to get a title shot. Dan needs to beat either Rampage, Machida or Rua to get a shot.

Henderson is the current Strikeforce LHW champion and he's a marquee name who just knocked out Fedor, he'd get a title shot if he wanted one.

freak hates Henderson for some reason... still shouldn't blind the obvious!

Freak comes from a land where they flush the toilet anti clockwise.

i need to see it to believe it!!!

Guest

, you guys are fucked but I love that.

I don't hate Dan but being Strikeforce champ means shit. Dan is still not a top 5 LHW. He needs to beat 1 of the top 5 to get a title shot in the UFC.

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:40 am

freakzilla wrote:: , you guys are fucked but I love that.

I don't hate Dan but being Strikeforce champ means shit. Dan is still not a top 5 LHW. He needs to beat 1 of the top 5 to get a title shot in the UFC.

according to you... and no1 else!!! lol

Guest

killerofchicken wrote:

freakzilla wrote:: , you guys are fucked but I love that.

I don't hate Dan but being Strikeforce champ means shit. Dan is still not a top 5 LHW. He needs to beat 1 of the top 5 to get a title shot in the UFC.

according to you... and no1 else!!! lol

No everyone thinks Ali, OU and yourself are fucked lol!

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:43 pm

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Guest

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Why because he beat a barely top 10 LHW in Cavalcante or a washed up Fedor? or was it because he lost to Jake Shields who is now fighting at WW? Rua's win over Forrest is more impressive than anything Dan did in Strikeforce.

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:16 pm

freakzilla wrote:

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Why because he beat a barely top 10 LHW in Cavalcante or a washed up Fedor? or was it because he lost to Jake Shields who is now fighting at WW? Rua's win over Forrest is more impressive than anything Dan did in Strikeforce.

you're in the minority on this one Freak... but hey, sometimes we all are

Guest

Most likely Dana agrees with me so that's all that matters tongue

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:27 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:: Anderson don't want that fight

This!

If Spider gets by Chael and Jones beats Page and Shad I see this fight happening. They will throw a LHW title shot at Spider and all kinds of money. I think he will take the fight.

Guest

He will never take that fight. He knows Jones would ruin him.

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:35 pm

Shogun vs Dan for number 1 contender please. That is a Pride fight we never saw anyway.

Guest

Wolfgangsta wrote:: Shogun vs Dan for number 1 contender please. That is a Pride fight we never saw anyway.

I'd agree with this!

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:39 pm

What does the LHW top ten look like?

Jones...then a cluster of Page, Rua, Evans and Machida with a case for any of those to be number 2-5. Then Dan?

Guest

I have it-

01. Jon Jones
02. Rashad Evans
03. Mauricio Rua
04. Quinton Jackson
05. Lyoto Machida
06. Dan Henderson
07. Forrest Griffin
08. Phil Davis
09. Rafael Cavalcante
10. Mo Lawal

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:00 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:: What does the LHW top ten look like?

Jones...then a cluster of Page, Rua, Evans and Machida with a case for any of those to be number 2-5. Then Dan?

Yep. Followed by the who gives a shit 7-10 range with honestly unproven SF guys and Forrest/Thiago/Phil

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:02 pm

freakzilla wrote:

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Why because he beat a barely top 10 LHW in Cavalcante or a washed up Fedor? or was it because he lost to Jake Shields who is now fighting at WW? Rua's win over Forrest is more impressive than anything Dan did in Strikeforce.

Again, I would love to go back and take a look at your predictions before the fight. Now being the only man to KO Fedor is less impressive than Forrest's head being a bouncy ball for the 4th time

Guest

Fedor is finished. I still tipped him because I went with my heart. Dan's last fight at 205 in the UFC was against Franklin and he wasn't that impressive in that fight.

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:39 pm

being the first person to ever stop Fedor Emelienanko counts for quite a bit, regardless if it was at Light Heavyweight or not. Are we really going to go with the "lost to a welterweight" thing again? Did Forrest Griffin and James Irvin get knocked out by a welterweight? I just don't see how there is seemingly no praise for doing something nobody ever did before in over 35 fights against guys like Semmy, Cro Cop, Nogueira, Choi, Sylvia, Arlovski, and Rogers? They may not be top 10 all time heavyweights but these are some of the hardest hitting and most skilled strikers ever in the division. It's clear you have some kind of underlying hatred for Dan Henderson. But it might be time to leave the baggage at home.

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:50 pm

freakzilla wrote:

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Why because he beat a barely top 10 LHW in Cavalcante or a washed up Fedor? or was it because he lost to Jake Shields who is now fighting at WW? Rua's win over Forrest is more impressive than anything Dan did in Strikeforce.

Guest

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Why because he beat a barely top 10 LHW in Cavalcante or a washed up Fedor? or was it because he lost to Jake Shields who is now fighting at WW? Rua's win over Forrest is more impressive than anything Dan did in Strikeforce.

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bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:: Anderson don't want that fight

This!

If Spider gets by Chael and Jones beats Page and Shad I see this fight happening. They will throw a LHW title shot at Spider and all kinds of money. I think he will take the fight.

This is kinda what I have been thinking, it makes the most sense, and that is only about a year away I would say. Just cause he has said he does not want to fight Jones doesn't mean he won't, he does care about his Legacy and what a way to cement that as no doubt in anyones mind, and in my mind Jones hasn't proven anything yet he is a bad dude, but he has not been pressured yet and everything has gone his way, Silva knew by the middle of the first round what he wanted to do to Okami, you could just see his whole thought process lock in, I think he would do the same thing to Jones, as hard as he hits as a Middleweight add 20+ pounds behind precision striking.

Guest

freakzilla wrote:: He will never take that fight. He knows Jones would ruin him.

Lots of nice long limbs for Silva to feast on.

Guest

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ludo wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Ali wrote:: There shouldn't be any discussions of superfights with Bones until he defends his title a couple times.

Shad's the #1 contender
Machida's waiting in the wings
And Hendo's about to rejoin the UFC

Silva vs GSP makes sense because both have cleared out there divisions and are the two leading candidates for the P4P crown. Plus GSP has the frame to move up.

Machida and Dan are not the next 2 after Rashad. Rua is ahead of both.

Sorry, but he isn't. He didn't ever defend the belt successfully and he didn't just pound the face of one of the best fighters ever. If Hendo re-enters the UFC he passes Rua for a shot if it happened today.

Why because he beat a barely top 10 LHW in Cavalcante or a washed up Fedor? or was it because he lost to Jake Shields who is now fighting at WW? Rua's win over Forrest is more impressive than anything Dan did in Strikeforce.

Subject: Re: Could Evans get skipped in favor of Silva Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:32 pm

I got Dan ahead of Evans, behind Shogun, Rampage and Machida.

Guest

In the past 3 years-

Rashad Evans=

At LHW

Tito Ortiz= Win
Quinton Jackson= Win
Thiago Silva= Win
Lyoto Machida= Loss
Forrest Griffin= Win
Chuck Liddell= Win

Dan Henderson=

At LHW

Rafael Cavalcante= Win
Renato Sobral= Win

At HW

Fedor Emelianenko= Win

At MW

Jake Shields= Loss
Michael Bisping= Win
Rousimar Palhares= Win

How is Dan Henderson ranked ahead of Rashad Evans at LHW?

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