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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Describe Machida Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:44 pm | |
| I believe the guy to be a very unique fighter, and I don't mean his fighting style per se, but instead his background, or better yet his mindset.
He's certainly not a fight hard, party hard type like Chuck was, def doesn't seem like a roid type, or even an athlete type fighter like I see so many US fighters to be, doesn't have that brawler attitude like many of the chute box brazilian guys did, nor is he a supremely talented guy like Spider. Though I do not doubt that he works as hard as anyone in the sport, I don't consider him an all business type fighter.
Perhaos it is his Japanese heritage that gives him more of a subdued personality, and maybe he in many ways resemble's the japanese fighters that we do not see as much here in the states. So maybe he is not so different, but he is on pace to surpass, perhaps sooner then later, all of the japanese fighters who have preceded him in the sport in terms of accomplishments. So he seperates himself here as well.
But more then any current fighter Lyoto strikes me as a guy who is more immersed, physcially, mentally and spiritually in the sport then any of his contemporaries. And that imo, is what seperates him from all of the other top fighters in the game today. And not to say he's better then any of those guys, but merely interms of wholly being involved in the artistry of the fight game, I think no one has an edge on Lyoto. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:04 pm | |
| i think of him as the definition of a martial artist. Some guys are just fighters, he is a martial artist. | |
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GolbeZ Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Condit, Machida, Aldo, Bendo, KJ Noons, Dominick Cruz The Praying Mantis Posts : 3139 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Austin
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:08 pm | |
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- nor is he a supremely talented guy like Spider
so you think anderson beats him if they fight? | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor and GSP Posts : 3124 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 44 Location : Houston, TX
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:22 pm | |
| - GolbeZ wrote:
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- nor is he a supremely talented guy like Spider
so you think anderson beats him if they fight? I think it's a great fight. I think Anderson beats him but wow, what a chess match it would be. | |
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discovery99 Yellow Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ Penn Posts : 130 Join date : 2009-08-13
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:11 am | |
| elusive
j/k... the guy is a Samurai. He's Japanese-Brazilian, he's been training in various martial arts since age three. He looks exactly like Ryu. He's called The Dragon. His main style is karate. He's impossible to hit. The guy was born to fight.
I don't know why you think he's not supremely talented. I think he's the most talented fighter in the world besides Fedor. Anderson may win in more spectacular fashion, but Machida is just as dominant over his opponents if not more so. No one in the UFC has been able to lay a finger on him. | |
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SOKO Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Dragon, Kenflo, Hendo, Guida, Ace, Wand, Cain, Carwin, Foreman, Evander, Oscar Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 43 Location : atlanta
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:07 am | |
| He is a true martial artist with the proper respect fot the game. not to mention what forrest said he will ninja you and there is nothing you can do about it. | |
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Jruq Green Belt
Posts : 412 Join date : 2009-07-19
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:27 pm | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, since way back Posts : 1191 Join date : 2009-09-30 Age : 43 Location : Flint, MI
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:54 pm | |
| My hunch is that Anderson would beat him, but Lyoto has never been touched so I don't know why I would go against him. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:39 pm | |
| - GolbeZ wrote:
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- nor is he a supremely talented guy like Spider
so you think anderson beats him if they fight? while I would pick Spider, I wouldn't always pick the more talented fighter. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:42 pm | |
| - discovery99 wrote:
- elusive
j/k... the guy is a Samurai. He's Japanese-Brazilian, he's been training in various martial arts since age three. He looks exactly like Ryu. He's called The Dragon. His main style is karate. He's impossible to hit. The guy was born to fight.
I don't know why you think he's not supremely talented. I think he's the most talented fighter in the world besides Fedor. Anderson may win in more spectacular fashion, but Machida is just as dominant over his opponents if not more so. No one in the UFC has been able to lay a finger on him. Im not trying to say he's not talented, he's very talented, but as far as pure natural talent, I don't see him being on Silva's level. I would say he is the more skilled fighter. | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
Posts : 690 Join date : 2009-10-01 Location : ATL
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:26 pm | |
| Anderson has admitted that Lyoto gets the better of him in sparring. They are both true martial artists that have been training various arts their whole life. | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, since way back Posts : 1191 Join date : 2009-09-30 Age : 43 Location : Flint, MI
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:33 pm | |
| - redvexx8 wrote:
- Anderson has admitted that Lyoto gets the better of him in sparring. They are both true martial artists that have been training various arts their whole life.
Wow, where did you read that?! That's huge news! | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:44 pm | |
| - redvexx8 wrote:
- Anderson has admitted that Lyoto gets the better of him in sparring. They are both true martial artists that have been training various arts their whole life.
Supposedly Fihlo did too so be careful what you read. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:48 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- redvexx8 wrote:
- Anderson has admitted that Lyoto gets the better of him in sparring. They are both true martial artists that have been training various arts their whole life.
Supposedly Fihlo did too so be careful what you read. Yeah that kind of talk is just complementing your stable mate. Better to pay attention wo what happens in the ring, then what they say outside of it. | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
Posts : 690 Join date : 2009-10-01 Location : ATL
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:35 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- redvexx8 wrote:
- Anderson has admitted that Lyoto gets the better of him in sparring. They are both true martial artists that have been training various arts their whole life.
Supposedly Fihlo did too so be careful what you read. On the ground I'm sure he did. Hell Tito nearly submitted him. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:41 pm | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- i think of him as the definition of a martial artist. Some guys are just fighters, he is a martial artist.
This | |
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Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Describe Machida Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:54 am | |
| Lyota is seemingly an enigma, but if you know the history of the Japanese people as well as that of those who immigrated from Japan it makes sense. His Japanese mindset makes him a counterpuncher, but his ability to attack shows his Brazilian environment. He is an opponent, I would truly not be sure how to gameplan for, but I do know that unless you have an iron chin and heavy hands you best plan on taking the fight to the ground. If I had to choose an opponent other than Silva, I would probably go with Dan Henderson or give Shad another shot, with emphasis on getting the fight to the ground. | |
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