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josh200612
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T.O 1st ballot HOFer?
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PostSubject: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 6:05 pm

It is being reported that Terell Owens tore his ACL and had the surgery to repair it sometime last month. Alot of analysta are saying his career maybe over now. On ESPN all day today they have been doing a poll and it is........If T.O had to retire today is he a first ballot Hall of Famer? What do u guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 7:18 pm

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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 7:20 pm

The arguement against it was that he tore 3 seperate teams apart and for all the good he did on the field he was equally as bad in the locker room and with some of his off the field antics.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 7:40 pm

This is the question I think about, is TO 1337 like these other guys who are 1st year of eligibility inductees? The list is short and 1337:

Steve Young
Rod Woodson
Reggie White
Paul Warfield
Gene Upshaw
Johnny Unitas
Lawrence Taylor
Roger Staubach
Bart Starr
O. J. Simpson
Mike Singletary
Emmitt Smith
Bruce Smith
Shannon Sharpe
Gale Sayers
Deion Sanders
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
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Jim Otto
Dan Marino
Gino Marchetti
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Eric Dickerson
Tony Dorsett
John Elway
Marshall Faulk
Earl Campbell
Dick Butkus
Jim Brown
Terry Bradshaw
George Blanda
Raymond Berry
Marcus Allen
Troy Aikman

I think TO is 1337 and would not be surprised if he is first year inducted, but I don't think he is best of the best and could see a guy like Harrison or Holt with their jewelry in this same ear being inducted before him. A lot has to play out from other players also, others in this year or time frame who are without question 1st year guys could go down or retire and then there is the other players past their first year who will receive consideration. Wide outs like Brown and Carter are still waiting for their inductions along with some others I'm not thinking of also. I just don't consider TO cumulatively to be on that Ronnie Lott or Tony Dorsett level as a hall of famer. He is HoF material no doubt though.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 7:46 pm

Easily 1st ballot...not worthy of debate. Only a LeBron James fan would bring it to a poll.

He shall be retired a San Francisco 49er when he's done.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 8:29 pm

KingsOwn19 wrote:
Easily 1st ballot...not worthy of debate. Only a LeBron James fan would bring it to a poll.

He shall be retired a San Francisco 49er when he's done.


Chris Carter wasnt a 1st ballot guy so I dont think T.O is a slam dunk to get in 1st ballot either.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 12:11 am

If people got in the NFL HoF based on numbers alone he is first year. They don't, past coaches, players and journalists decide based on a wide variety of things. It's not hard to imagine TO not getting in on the first try or the first few years.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 12:13 am

I dont see anyway that TO gets in on the 1st ballot.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 1:33 am

The wide receiver that ranks 2nd all-time in yards and TDs not getting in on the first ballot would be laughable
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 2:02 am

timthebim wrote:
KingsOwn19 wrote:
Easily 1st ballot...not worthy of debate. Only a LeBron James fan would bring it to a poll.

He shall be retired a San Francisco 49er when he's done.


Chris Carter wasnt a 1st ballot guy so I dont think T.O is a slam dunk to get in 1st ballot either.

two wrongs don't make a right...he would have made it the secon time if not for JERRY FUCKIN RICE and not to mention Tim Brown
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 9:46 am

bobbitt15 wrote:
The wide receiver that ranks 2nd all-time in yards and TDs not getting in on the first ballot would be laughable


Others have been snubbed if coaches, media, and other players dont care for them.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 9:50 am

If Cris Carter can't be 1st ballot, TO shouldn't be first ballet. But honestly it is a joke Carter wasn't voted 1st ballot and both men deserving of 1st ballot.
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PostSubject: Re: T.O tears ACL   T.O tears ACL EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 12:47 pm

timthebim wrote:
bobbitt15 wrote:
The wide receiver that ranks 2nd all-time in yards and TDs not getting in on the first ballot would be laughable


Others have been snubbed if coaches, media, and other players dont care for them.

Which is why the respective HOFs are all viewed as a joke at this point
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