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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: UFC 129 Predictions Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:28 pm | |
| Georges St. Pierre vs. Jake ShieldsLudo: Some have called this a compelling matchup. However it's far more likely that Jake Shields is going to end up just like the last few opponents GSP has had. He will be touted as the one to finally take the throne before the match by a select few and after it's all said and done we will be admitting to ourselves and everyone else once again that Jake Shields didn't belong in the same cage as "Rush". I just don't see how Shields is going to get it done outside of a really good guillotine. Shields is not an arm/leg guy. He almost never goes for arm or leg submission attempts because he's almost purely a positional grappler. He doesn't go for submissions so much to finish as he does to open up the door for a sweep or a reverse somewhere. All that said I think GSP rips him apart here. Shields can't strike for shit with St Pierre but the problem is the range that GSP likes to strike from. He comes in from outside with those karate style kicks and uses alot of footwork and angles for his jabs. I wouldn't call Koscheck a slow fighter by any means and GSP had hit him and gotten back out of range by the time Koscheck could even start his swing almost every time. Nobody is going to hold GSP down for three rounds outside of Roger Gracie or Chael Sonnen at this point. GSP is just too strong and too good at getting back up for that. Koscheck got him down on two occasions in the last fight and neither time were they on the ground for more than 15 seconds at a clip. That said I think Shields is going to be relentless with the takedowns if he can get close enough to tie GSP up. Thats going to be a problem though, because Georges likes to sit on the outside and then come in when he's attacking. We've seen that fast twitch muscle ability on GSP when shooting, there is no reason to believe he won't be able to use it the other way. Shields is going to have to abandon his positioning style grappling for this fight in favor of a super aggressive submission game because thats his only shot. We saw how positional grappling worked for Jon Fitch. Prediction: Georges St Pierre by Decision. Jose Aldo vs. Mark HominickLudo: This fight is one of those fights that is hard to pick a winner simply because you can't be sure if the fighter who has a clear advantage in a certain area with the means to impliment it, will actually do so. Aldo is a very explosive striker with brutal leg kicks and power punches. However, Hominick is no joke and could feasibly win a decision if this is a pure striking battle. Hominicks hands are technically superior to Jose Aldo's, though he doesn't pack quite as much power as Aldo. We know Aldo hasn't had to use his ground game but it's hard to lay down money on the hope that he'll use it this time. Some fighters just don't fight to they're own strengths and look to go out for the brutal knockout style win. Aldo should be faster but is he fast enough to land leg kicks without getting caught by that crisp slip and rip style boxing? Assuming Aldo is in fact an intelligent and disciplined fighter he will be able to get the takedown and he shouldn't have too much trouble applying a submission on the Canadian challenger. That isn't to say he can't win a standup battle either. Those leg kicks will chop anyone down after a round or two. Prediction: Jose Aldo by Submission. Randy Couture vs. Lyoto MachidaLudo: Randy Couture's farewell fight comes against former champion Lyoto Machida. I don't know why Randy agreed to take this fight given the way his ability to take a solid punch has deteriorated. Some may think Randy has as good a shot to win this fight as Rampage did in the end but it just isn't the same thing at all. At this point I don't think Randy is dangerous standing at least nowhere near as dangerous as Rampage. I think Machida really showed too much respect for Rampage's power when they fought. By that I mean he was too reserved and pretty much just let Page walk him down for the first two rounds hoping something was going to continually open up. Had Machida fought the rest of the fight like he did in the third round that fight never would have seen round three. Coutures striking reflexes have slowed considerably as shown in the Minotauro fight. In fact I think this fight looks very similar to that. Machida will likely drop Randy striking and follow him down to the ground to negate Couture's ability to clinch against the cage. Thats assuming he doesn't just blast Randy and knock him the hell out. Randy's best weapon at this point in the clinch isn't even a great gameplan due to Machida's Sumo background. He has shown an ability to get out of clinches he doesn't want to be in. Couture is in trouble any time he's not in Machida's face. Prediction: Lyoto Machida by KO Benson Henderson vs. Mark BocekLudo: A close matchup between two well rounded grapplers. Benson Henderson's first test in the UFC is no easy task by any means. Mark Bocek had a very competitive showing in his fight with Jim Miller and comes off a submission win that vaulted Dustin Hazelett out of the UFC. Hendersons last fight saw him losing a close decision to Anthony Pettis in a back and forth battle in the WEC's final event. These two match up fairly well. Submitting "Bendo" has seemed near impossible thusfar but if anyone can do it it might be Bocek. Both men are very good with guillotine chokes. Striking wise the edge has got to go to Henderson for being more diverse with his strikes. As far as grappling goes Henderson has the wrestling advantage but that doesn't mean he'll be able to control Bocek all night. Mark has shown high level jiu jitsu and the edge there goes to him. Durability and stamina are in favor of Henderson. I see this one playing out like any fight between two high level grapplers with some feeling out process going on standing before they go to the ground and really get things going. Henderson will likely be working for the takedown and I see no reason why he won't eventually get it. While he's working for it though I wouldn't be surprised to see Bocek lock one of those super tight guillotines in the process. Henderson can't escape forever. This time I think he gets caught. Prediction: Mark Bocek by Submission Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Jason BrilzLudo: This was an incredibly hard fight to break down. These two are both middle of the road Light Heavyweights who could easily be ranked in the same spot. Matyushenko has been around for quite a while, facing opponents such as Tito Ortiz, Vernon White, Andrei Arlovski, Yuki Kondo, and current Light Heavyweight champion Jon Jones. Matyushenko is a bit of a generalist who is always game. Brilz is an accomplished wrestler who took on Antonio Rogerio "Minotoro" Nogueira on short notice last year and arguably deserved the decision. However Jason Brilz has not competed between then and now. An edge in striking is had by Vladmir Matyushenko while an overall advantage on the ground is had by Brilz. This should be an extremely competitive fight that could go either way in the end. I think that long layoff is going to end up hurting Brilz here. It is likely Matyushenko can stuff the takedowns early on and force a standing brawl which favors him. I see a decision in the works here but an entertaining fight none the less. Prediction: Vladmir Matyushenko by Decision Rory MacDonald vs. Nate DiazLudo: Youth vs experience. Rory MacDonald had a pair of impressive showings in his last two fights despite losing to Carlos Condit. He put up two very close rounds against Condit and it has been said by some that were the fight have been allowed to continue to the final bell instead of being stopped with under tend seconds to go he would have taken the decision. Nate Diaz has shown improvement every time he has stepped into the Octagon thusfar. While he may have lost a decision in his last fight to Dong Hyun Kim he is still a very talented fighter. Both fighters are tough as nails and durable so neither has the edge there. On the ground they are both skilled fighters but if I had to give an edge I'd give it to Diaz because he can threaten legitimately from the top or bottom and end the fight from either position. Striking is difficult to pick here, with MacDonald having such a good performance with Condit. MacDonald seems to throw more kicks, but the pace Diaz pushes combined with those hard punches he throws will likely be the deciding factor here. I see a close fight going into the third round where Diaz overwhelms MacDonald enroute to a decision. Prediction: Nate Diaz by Decision Sean Pierson vs. Jake EllenbergerLudo: This fight presents an interesting matchup due to the fact that we don't quite know how good Sean Pierson really is yet. He showed good hands but a poor gas tank against Matt Riddle in his UFC debut. He's going to have his hands full against Ellenberger who has been called a "poor mans Fitch". Ellenberger packs a punch but so does Pierson. Ellenberger has the superior wrestling here as well as vicious ground and pound with those elbows from guard. Pierson showed in his last fight cardio problems late in the fight and while owning an edge standing I don't think he's going to be able to withstand the constant pace and pressure that Ellenberger likes to pour onto his opponents. I see this fight playing out with a mix of stand up and takedown attempts from Ellenberger. Pierson should be able to stay on his feet in the first round and possibly even the second round, but I see him fading in the third round at which point Ellenberger will likely pour it on and force a referee stoppage. Prediction: Jake Ellenberger by TKO. Post your own predictions below or Here! | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:08 am | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:24 am | |
| Man, i'm having these awful nightmares that Randy Couture wins.
I don't have any faith...a Randy Couture win will ensure that i never ever find God because i'll never bother to look...and if God finds me..i'll tell him to fuck off for letting Randy Couture beat Lyoto Machida. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:32 am | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- Man, i'm having these awful nightmares that Randy Couture wins.
I don't have any faith...a Randy Couture win will ensure that i never ever find God because i'll never bother to look...and if God finds me..i'll tell him to fuck off for letting Randy Couture beat Lyoto Machida. I'm protesting your American citizenship. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:36 am | |
| Im picking 3 upsets for this one. My order in the chance of them happening
Sheilds couture hominick
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:12 am | |
| - sokolkevin wrote:
- Im picking 3 upsets for this one. My order in the chance of them happening
Sheilds couture hominick
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:08 am | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- Man, i'm having these awful nightmares that Randy Couture wins.
I don't have any faith...a Randy Couture win will ensure that i never ever find God because i'll never bother to look...and if God finds me..i'll tell him to fuck off for letting Randy Couture beat Lyoto Machida. I'd be really disappointed if Lyoto didn't come out and step on the gas pedal in this one. If he sits back and lets Couture stall on the cage, even if he eeks out a decision, it won't be the kind of performance he needs | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:46 pm | |
| This is a very winnable fight for couture, and I'm a huge lyoto fan. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:03 am | |
| - boomer sooner wrote:
- This is a very winnable fight for couture, and I'm a huge lyoto fan.
How is this anything near a winnable fight for Couture? | |
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throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:33 am | |
| Well jackson did win his fight by holding onto lyoto against the cage for 7 mins of their fight. Randy is a master of that. I think that gives randy a good chance | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:37 am | |
| GSP by decision
Jose Aldo by rape...2nd round TKO
Couture wins by lay and pray/pinning Lyoto against the cage- Decision
Ben Henderson will win by submission
Brilz by TKO
Diaz by Submission
Ellenberger by decision | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:58 am | |
| - throwdownfight1 wrote:
- Well jackson did win his fight by holding onto lyoto against the cage for 7 mins of their fight. Randy is a master of that. I think that gives randy a good chance
Jackson also has punching power Lyoto had to respect and worry about as well as a chin that would hold up to almost anything Lyoto could throw. Randy has neither of these. | |
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throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:22 am | |
| True however jackson has ko'd a primed fighter in almost 4 years. Not only that he never even stunned machida or landed a real damaging blow throughout their fight. Also in the one exchange they did have jacksons chin was rocked. I do agree though that machida giving way too much respect to jackson cost him the fight but what im saying is that if jackson was able to win his fight by simply overpowering machida and holding onto him against the cage for 7 mins, then randy has a chance. Of course i could be wrong and randy may not wanna play it smart/safe like jackson did and instead will try to come straight foward and get ko'd silly. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:10 am | |
| - throwdownfight1 wrote:
- True however jackson has ko'd a primed fighter in almost 4 years. Not only that he never even stunned machida or landed a real damaging blow throughout their fight. Also in the one exchange they did have jacksons chin was rocked. I do agree though that machida giving way too much respect to jackson cost him the fight but what im saying is that if jackson was able to win his fight by simply overpowering machida and holding onto him against the cage for 7 mins, then randy has a chance. Of course i could be wrong and randy may not wanna play it smart/safe like jackson did and instead will try to come straight foward and get ko'd silly.
just because he hasn't ko'd anyone recently doesn't mean that he can't, machida knew this and decided to play it safe | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:49 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:36 pm | |
| - NoRegret wrote:
- GSP by decision
Jose Aldo by rape...2nd round TKO
Couture wins by lay and pray/pinning Lyoto against the cage- Decision
Ben Henderson will win by submission
Brilz by TKO
Diaz by Submission
Ellenberger by decision would be a shocker. Almost like picking Randy to win by TKO. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:58 pm | |
| Ariel Helwani - Quote :
- UFC just announced that an undetermined amount of tickets for 129 were just released.
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jewzilla Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:19 pm | |
| GSP vs. Shields- GSP will dedicate the first round, to showing he is the superior striker. GSP will dedicate the 2nd round to proving he is the superior grappler. GSP will dedicate the 3rd round to smashing Shields HGH caveman face, and getting the TKO.
Winner- GSP, TKO.
Aldo vs. Hominick- Unless Hominick can squeak out a miracle decision, Aldo all day. (See Aldo vs. Faber)
Winner- Aldo, Decision.
Machida vs. Couture- I want to say Randy wins a decision by stalling and dirty boxing, but Machida is gonna layeth the smackdown.
Winner- Machida, devastating KO. (Randy takes the KO face title from Rashad)
Henderson vs. Bocek- Wrestling vs. BJJ. Henderson will be aggressive from the top, Bocek will be aggressive with sub attempts from the bottom. Henderson will get the win just because he is on top.
Winner- Henderson, decision. (See DHK vs. Diaz)
Janitor vs. Brilz- Snoozefest. Janitor wants to bang, Brilz wants to wrestle.
Winner- Brilz, decision. LnP.
Diaz vs. McDonald- Gonna enjoy this one. Little Diaz will go Big Diaz on MacDonald, and school him standing up. MacDonald will take it to the ground, and Diaz will sub him from there.
Winner- Diaz, submission. (RNC)
Ellenberger vs. Pierson- Stand up war. Resulting in an Ellenberger KO.
Winner- Ellenberger, KO. | |
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throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC 129 Predictions Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:27 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- throwdownfight1 wrote:
- True however jackson has ko'd a primed fighter in almost 4 years. Not only that he never even stunned machida or landed a real damaging blow throughout their fight. Also in the one exchange they did have jacksons chin was rocked. I do agree though that machida giving way too much respect to jackson cost him the fight but what im saying is that if jackson was able to win his fight by simply overpowering machida and holding onto him against the cage for 7 mins, then randy has a chance. Of course i could be wrong and randy may not wanna play it smart/safe like jackson did and instead will try to come straight foward and get ko'd silly.
just because he hasn't ko'd anyone recently doesn't mean that he can't, machida knew this and decided to play it safe how was he playing it safe if he was landing the inside leg kicks the first 3 minutes of the fight while rampage was doin nothing. not only that wasnt rampage the one that initiated most of the clinches knowing he wasnt landing any damage. the only time i saw machida not throwing or trying to land something was the last 2 minutes of round 2. other than that he always kept busy while rampage was just either following him or holding on.rampage was trying to play his own countering game but was unsuccessfull throughout the whole match. the only time he actually came straight foward like tito had done in his fight with machida was in the 3rd when he got rocked. im not saying rampage doesnt have power but at the same time its an mma bout not a powerpunching competition and when all is said and done it comes down to who the better striker with power is. in the end the one exchange they did have proved which was in third showed who the better and hard hitting striker was . once again it was machidas own fault for having too much respect for rampage. anyways back to the original topic. if rampage can win by holding on to machida against the fence for 7 mins, randy has a chance | |
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