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 Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?

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PostSubject: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 3:01 am

Am I the only one that thinks Beltran won that fight? I thought he won both the 1st and 2nd rounds for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 3:09 am

I thought Barry won.

II gave Barry the 1st, Beltran the 2nd, and had the 3rd very close until the eye poke. But Barry walked him from there.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 3:53 am

I had Barry winning all rounds but maybe the second, and regardless, the guy who collapsed in a heap at the horn doesn't deserve the win. His leg was ruined. He made it closer than it needed to be, but Barry won.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 9:37 am

No I had it 29-28 Beltran. I thought he won the first 2 rounds and Barry snagged the 3rd.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 9:54 am

I thought Barry won 2 rounds to 1. It was a close fight but I thought Barry deserved the decision.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 10:06 am

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I had Barry winning all rounds but maybe the second, and regardless, the guy who collapsed in a heap at the horn doesn't deserve the win. His leg was ruined. He made it closer than it needed to be, but Barry won.

Yeah the guy needs to throw more. Probably could have taken that leg out much earlier.
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I had Barry winning all rounds but maybe the second, and regardless, the guy who collapsed in a heap at the horn doesn't deserve the win. His leg was ruined. He made it closer than it needed to be, but Barry won.

Yeah the guy needs to throw more. Probably could have taken that leg out much earlier.

Yeah I think there is no doubt he could have.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 11:46 am

He needs to do the pudzianowski running 5 leg kick combo lol that would devestate opponents haha.

That being said, Barry won this fight 29-28 on my score card, even with him being reserved with his striking.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 12:05 pm

I had Barry winning but it was definitely close. I can see a case for Beltran stealing the 2nd round.
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I think Barry was closer to winning 30-27 than Beltran was to winning 2 rounds
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 2:41 pm

http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fights/index/3114

no way does Barry win the first round. Leg kick or not. Dude was outstruck 5 to 1 in the first round and clinched all over gods creation.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 2:44 pm

Damage. Barry won that round on my card.

BTW have yall read Jonathan Snowden's article on this?
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 2:49 pm

I haven't but damage that didn't knock Beltran down or severely hinder him can't override a 5 to 1 rate of landing strikes. Barry only even attempted twelve strikes in the entire first round. throwing 1.2 strikes a minute for an entire round when the other guy is landing 2 and a half times as you've even attempted does not equal a winning round unless those few strikes resulted in a knockout or knockdown.
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I haven't but damage that didn't knock Beltran down or severely hinder him

He was limping off one kick. Barry's thighs won him the round.

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 pm

Sagat would still beat his ass.
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Sagat would still beat his ass.

Cause he'd try to hug it out with homie.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 3:07 pm

What is it with Barry and trying to be buddy-buddy during the fights he is in? Anytime he gets tagged he wants to hug or slap hands with his opponent.

He did that last night with Beltran towards the end of the 2nd round too. Beltran was tagging him against the cage and Barry tried to slap hands with him.

Fuckin weird man.
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Great fight, but Barry won imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 3:28 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
Damage. Barry won that round on my card.

BTW have yall read Jonathan Snowden's article on this?

The one where he shit on Rogan/Goldie?
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 5:11 pm

Look, Beltran out hit Barry, pinned him against the cage, dirty boxed him, etc. I don't think anyone is underestimating the damage Barry's kicks were having on Beltran, they were painful. But his aggression sucked, his clinch work was sub-par, and what makes it really hit the shitter is he could have won with no discussion in the first round if he would have just gone for it.
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Damage. Barry won that round on my card.

BTW have yall read Jonathan Snowden's article on this?


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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 7:25 pm

barry won the 2nd and 3rd
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran?   Who do you think won Barry vs Beltran? EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 11:42 pm

Barry, but he made it much closer then it needed to be, I have no clue why he wasn't throwing more not just in the 3rd, but overall in the fight. Giving Beltran the 1st cause from what I remember he was throwing and landing more, the 2nd was actually close but gave it to Barry, and the 3rd should have never finished.
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