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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:05 pm | |
| All everyone said for the past year was how bad Machida would whoop Rampages ass
didnt even cmoe close to doing that close fight? yes. But Machida never dominated the stand up like most thought he would
everytime Machida would get going Rampage would use some of that brute strength to knock Lloyoto back
Admit it yall were almost about to crazy when Rampage went for the slam
my questino is do yall think Lloyoto was just gun shy after getting knocked out by a lucky punch (wink LA) or did Rampage have more left in the tank than we previously thought? or was Machida overhyped?
WHAT HAPPENED
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:08 pm | |
| Shogun happened. Machida just got brutally knocked out and was wary to fully engage a fighter with the kind of power Rampage brings in both hands. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:09 pm | |
| good answer ludo
thats kinda what im leaning toward
but so do you think Rampage vs Machida 6 months ago Lloyoto is a whirling dirvish of kicks and punches? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:12 pm | |
| A combination of Lyoto being wary of Page's power and Page being in much better shape than his 2 previous fights | |
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| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:12 pm | |
| What Ludo said. Machida had never lost and that changes some people a lot. Look at how Rashad fights now compared to before the Machida fight. |
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ChaoscamelWV Yellow Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor, Shogun, Henderson, GSP, Florian Posts : 127 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 42 Location : Arlington, VA
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:15 pm | |
| I think Machida was overhyped. He's a great fighter, but he's not god. His elusive style is difficult to deal with, but not impossible.
6 months ago Machida would not have been a whirling dervish of kicks and punches. He would fight the same way he always fights: keeping the distance and picking his shots. The problem with this style is that if you don't finish your opponent, there's a good chance your opponent will beat you via decision because you lose rounds based on lack of aggression or whatever it may be. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:21 pm | |
| He hadn't lost a round in the UFC prior to the first Shogun fight. He was plenty aggressive while also being elusive prior to this fight. The problem is that in the first round Rampage started to time those kicks and rush in guns a blazing and Machida stopped throwing kicks like that. Kicks being a huge part of his game forced him to sit back and wait for the rest of the fight to avoid getting Zulu'd. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:23 pm | |
| wow holy shit just 6 months ago woulda been hard to fathom Rampage, Machida and Zulu'd in the same sentence | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:25 pm | |
| Well six months ago nobody knew Machida could even be pressured and hit the way Shogun did to win the belt. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:26 pm | |
| you must not remember my prediction!!! | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:30 pm | |
| Machida did whoop his ass. Rampage won two rounds in which both fighters hardly did anything at all.
Ask Rampage himself, he'll tell you.
Machida in round 3 is pretty much what everybody expected. Machida knows the game though, he definetly shoulders most of the blame for his sloppy work in the first 2 rounds...but he looked like Dragon in round 3 so none of this Shogun stole his soul garbage. | |
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| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:34 pm | |
| Be careful Bird. If you disagree with Kings he'll trash your topic. |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rashad Evans #1!,Rampage,GSP,Couture,Chael Sonnen,BJ Penn,Robbie Lawler,King MO,Frank Mir Posts : 8931 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 39 Location : Charlotte , North Carolina
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:36 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Be careful Bird. If you disagree with Kings he'll trash your topic.
where was kings when all the brock threads were going up? | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:17 am | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- A combination of Lyoto being wary of Page's power and Page being in much better shape than his 2 previous fights
THIS. | |
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throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Matt Hughes,Tito Ortiz,Frank Mir Posts : 875 Join date : 2010-10-29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:19 am | |
| - ChaoscamelWV wrote:
- I think Machida was overhyped. He's a great fighter, but he's not god. His elusive style is difficult to deal with, but not impossible.
6 months ago Machida would not have been a whirling dervish of kicks and punches. He would fight the same way he always fights: keeping the distance and picking his shots. The problem with this style is that if you don't finish your opponent, there's a good chance your opponent will beat you via decision because you lose rounds based on lack of aggression or whatever it may be. he is not the lhw chuck,tito,randy and shogun was but he is still better than guys like page,wandy and shad are or were | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: So What Happened? Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:24 am | |
| :laugh: He isn't the LHW that Tito was? | |
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