Surprise, surprise. Brock vs Mir 3

sokolkevin wrote:

if mir wins that 3 fucking strait loses. say all you want but carwin beat that ass and gassed. Carwin beat himself. It was like submitting a dead guy.

Cardio is just as important as power and speed so Carwin has no one to blame but himself. Brock beat him fair and square.

bobbitt15 wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

if mir wins that 3 fucking strait loses. say all you want but carwin beat that ass and gassed. Carwin beat himself. It was like submitting a dead guy.

Lol since when do we count losses for guys who win because their opponent gasses? There's like 2 of those on every damn card

The instances in which we see a guy completely gassed 3 minutes into the fight is pretty rare.

U can't take away the W, but it's hard to be impressed by the victory.

Im not in love with this fight but it has to be done. Lets do it now and get it over with.

It looks like I'm the only one who thinks that this would be a co-main, and not the main event. Throw this on the Super Bowl card with Anderson and Vitor, Bader and Jones, as well as Franklin and Forrest. That would make this card pretty badass.

chorky777 wrote:

It looks like I'm the only one who thinks that this would be a co-main, and not the main event. Throw this on the Super Bowl card with Anderson and Vitor, Bader and Jones, as well as Franklin and Forrest. That would make this card pretty badass.

That would be a great card!

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

LA wrote:

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

Yeah thats what it has come to now LA. Cain beat Brock now Mir had him in trouble LOL. There is so much BS hate on Brock its crazy.

timthebim wrote:

LA wrote:

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

Yeah thats what it has come to now LA. Cain beat Brock now Mir had him in trouble LOL. There is so much BS hate on Brock its crazy.

Speak in honest terms, Cain thrashed Brock. The three minute man was thrashing him too. If Mir had anything that resembled takedown defense perhaps he could built a little something off of that knee.

Sorry, but Brock is not the indestructable force so many(including myself) thought he was. I think Mir has a shot, Vanilla Sapp is vulnerable.

timthebim wrote:

LA wrote:

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

Yeah thats what it has come to now LA. Cain beat Brock now Mir had him in trouble LOL. There is so much BS hate on Brock its crazy.

I think it's an irrational response from all the irrational BS love for Brock that was there before. There seem to be like 3 people who actually have a decent handle on how good Brock really is.

chorky777 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

LA wrote:

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

Yeah thats what it has come to now LA. Cain beat Brock now Mir had him in trouble LOL. There is so much BS hate on Brock its crazy.

I think it's an irrational response from all the irrational BS love for Brock that was there before. There seem to be like 3 people who actually have a decent handle on how good Brock really is.

I think it's totally impossible to know how good Brock really is. In addition to a really small sample size, we have seen a wide range of results, from dominant juggernaut, to a dude who is prone to stumbling across the cage.

I have him lower top 10, but think that that could be entirely too high.

LA wrote:

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

Its gotten kind of ridiculous hasn't it? I love how now any LHW with decent wrestling would beat Brock lol

I don't think just anyone could beat Brock and I think he's exciting to watch but I can't stand the guy and love to some him lose for many reasons. As much as I really dont care about a 3rd fight I honestly think it's 50/50 to pick a winner.

Really? Mir got his ass beat for all of 5 seconds when he got Brock's leg so far in their 2 fights. This is just routine double and top control for Brock, although after these last 2 he may try to work his striking knowing that even if he got hurt Mir is still very unlikely to stop a desperation shot

Yeah really, I look at Mir a lot like I look at BJ. How the fight goes depends on which guy shows up. If you think Frank has no chance then you are delusional. Chances are Brock destroys him again but IMO he could lose in the first minute.

captain organic wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

LA wrote:

Now the desperation knee had Brock in trouble LOL

Yeah thats what it has come to now LA. Cain beat Brock now Mir had him in trouble LOL. There is so much BS hate on Brock its crazy.

I think it's an irrational response from all the irrational BS love for Brock that was there before. There seem to be like 3 people who actually have a decent handle on how good Brock really is.

I think it's totally impossible to know how good Brock really is. In addition to a really small sample size, we have seen a wide range of results, from dominant juggernaut, to a dude who is prone to stumbling across the cage.

I have him lower top 10, but think that that could be entirely too high.

that just plain o hate. i understand any real mma fan not having him at 2 but lower top 10 is just silly. the dude clearly beat 3 legit top 5 mma hws wether by size or skill and only recentl lost to the new #1 hw in the world. many top 10 hws have flaws. brock is one of them with his striking. carwin has his with his stamina, overeem with his chin, mir with his wrestling, werdum with his wrestling/striking to barnetts and bigfoots lack of talent wich make up for by way or roids. this coming from a brock hater(real mma fan) as you can see from my fav fighters list. mir has a chance to win however at the same time brock has already been there, dominated that.

Ziggy116 wrote:

Yeah really, I look at Mir a lot like I look at BJ. How the fight goes depends on which guy shows up. If you think Frank has no chance then you are delusional. Chances are Brock destroys him again but IMO he could lose in the first minute.

BJ is nothing like Mir

BJJ guys with cardio issues who developed good boxing but hate training...


or

they punch people in the face to make a living.



there, connected them

Second one

But alltime Legend who is one of the most naturally gifted fighters in MMA history, talented enough to compete in multiple divisions Vs. the overrated assbabbling egomaniac, is more how I see it.

LA wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

Yeah really, I look at Mir a lot like I look at BJ. How the fight goes depends on which guy shows up. If you think Frank has no chance then you are delusional. Chances are Brock destroys him again but IMO he could lose in the first minute.

BJ is nothing like Mir

You see no correlation between two guys that are dominant if they come to a fight fully prepared and in shape and if the ego takes over they get beat down? LW's and HW's can have similar traits.

Ziggy116 wrote:

LA wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

Yeah really, I look at Mir a lot like I look at BJ. How the fight goes depends on which guy shows up. If you think Frank has no chance then you are delusional. Chances are Brock destroys him again but IMO he could lose in the first minute.

BJ is nothing like Mir

You see no correlation between two guys that are dominant if they come to a fight fully prepared and in shape and if the ego takes over they get beat down? LW's and HW's can have similar traits.

I also don't agree with the connection of BJ and Mir. They have both had problems with staying in shape and motivated in the past but that is about it. I would never call Mir dominate, BJ was dominate. He just has a much higher peak then Mir.

OU wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

LA wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

Yeah really, I look at Mir a lot like I look at BJ. How the fight goes depends on which guy shows up. If you think Frank has no chance then you are delusional. Chances are Brock destroys him again but IMO he could lose in the first minute.

BJ is nothing like Mir

You see no correlation between two guys that are dominant if they come to a fight fully prepared and in shape and if the ego takes over they get beat down? LW's and HW's can have similar traits.

I also don't agree with the connection of BJ and Mir. They have both had problems with staying in shape and motivated in the past but that is about it. I would never call Mir dominate, BJ was dominate. He just has a much higher peak then Mir.

Maybe my point didn't come across. Obviously BJ has a career 100x better than Frank's, but when it comes to who shows up for a fight I see a similarity. The difference is Frank could've been dominate and BJ was. Just comparing the sometimes lack of prep.

LA wrote:

Second one

But alltime Legend who is one of the most naturally gifted fighters in MMA history, talented enough to compete in multiple divisions Vs. the overrated assbabbling egomaniac, is more how I see it.

bj is nothing like mir and i agree. like others said bj was a dominant champ and frank wasnt. with that said frank is not overated. he was never the best but he was much better than other former champs out there. in the last decade i only see fedor,randy,lesnar and probably nog above him. guys like aa,cro cop,barnett and timmy are under him.

throwdownfight1 wrote:

LA wrote:

Second one

But alltime Legend who is one of the most naturally gifted fighters in MMA history, talented enough to compete in multiple divisions Vs. the overrated assbabbling egomaniac, is more how I see it.

bj is nothing like mir and i agree. like others said bj was a dominant champ and frank wasnt. with that said frank is not overated. he was never the best but he was much better than other former champs out there. in the last decade i only see fedor,randy,lesnar and probably nog above him. guys like aa,cro cop,barnett and timmy are under him.

Those guys would have all killed him.

Ziggy116 wrote:

OU wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

LA wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

Yeah really, I look at Mir a lot like I look at BJ. How the fight goes depends on which guy shows up. If you think Frank has no chance then you are delusional. Chances are Brock destroys him again but IMO he could lose in the first minute.

BJ is nothing like Mir

You see no correlation between two guys that are dominant if they come to a fight fully prepared and in shape and if the ego takes over they get beat down? LW's and HW's can have similar traits.

I also don't agree with the connection of BJ and Mir. They have both had problems with staying in shape and motivated in the past but that is about it. I would never call Mir dominate, BJ was dominate. He just has a much higher peak then Mir.

Maybe my point didn't come across. Obviously BJ has a career 100x better than Frank's, but when it comes to who shows up for a fight I see a similarity. The difference is Frank could've been dominate and BJ was. Just comparing the sometimes lack of prep.

That is where you lose me. I don't think Frank had all this potential he didn't live up to. If anything he is an overachiever IMO. He didn't have that greatness in him like BJ.

Alright well neverfuckingmind then!