JUST TAP SON!

"I didn't realize he was out for so long. I knew he was going out because I could tell how deep it was. For the most part, I was choking him with one arm, which is how I beat Dominick Cruz, with one arm. I knew he was going out but I didn't realize it was that bad, he was stiffed up, it was kind of scary. I mean, you don't want to do that to somebody but I didn't realize either, I saw the time limit of 1:10 when I started choking him and I just knew I had to get it in there." -Faber


http://www.mmamania.com/2010/11/12/1809688/wec-52-urijah-faber-reflects-on-scary-moment-in-submission-win-over


Reflecting on this situation brings me back to my arguement that not taping is fucking stupid when you know your caught. Does that ref deserve blame for this? Fuck yeah but Mizu and anyone else who just decides to go to sleep when they know their caught is fucking stupid as well imo.

I have less of a problem with not taping on chokes. It is when you don't tap to armbars, kneebars ect. That shit is disrespectful IMO. If your option is tap out or black out I don't mind, but if it is tap or snap? You better tap.

yeah it was a hard angle for the ref to see but he should of known it was deep and time to call it at least 5 seconds before he did.

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

I'm just saying you can't put your life into the refs hands fucking tap bro. This proves it

yeah if you know there is no way out just tap and be done with it. Have to admit I thought gaki was dead there for a second and was yelling at the t.v for him to stop it cause I knew he had been out for some time.

Well he showed some balls by not tapping but it nearly cost him his life LOL.

MMAEYES wrote:

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

It takes a full 3 minutes without oxygen at the least to get any sort of brain damage. You aren't going to have any damage from not tapping in a fight.

Chokes are about air and blood constriction. You can hold your breath for several minutes but your still gonna go unconscious in a matter of seconds if your brain stops receiving blood.

The thing with the blood choke's are u r out before u know it.

Surprised the ref wasn't in quicker, once his arms went down, it was pretty obvious.

chorky777 wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

It takes a full 3 minutes without oxygen at the least to get any sort of brain damage. You aren't going to have any damage from not tapping in a fight.

Well that's good news I still don't think it's smart to not tap though

chorky777 wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

It takes a full 3 minutes without oxygen at the least to get any sort of brain damage. You aren't going to have any damage from not tapping in a fight.

So it would take choking a guy for like 5 mins straight to kill them?

MMAEYES wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

It takes a full 3 minutes without oxygen at the least to get any sort of brain damage. You aren't going to have any damage from not tapping in a fight.

So it would take choking a guy for like 5 mins straight to kill them?

Might be able to crush his wind pipe after he loses consciousness.

OU wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

It takes a full 3 minutes without oxygen at the least to get any sort of brain damage. You aren't going to have any damage from not tapping in a fight.

So it would take choking a guy for like 5 mins straight to kill them?

Might be able to crush his wind pipe after he loses consciousness.

LOL I was just asking cause when it was brought up I thought of how fake movies are where some guy chokes another guy for a couple secs or like one min and the guy dies lol

Commented on this last night, I was a little scared for Mizu, but he wasn't tappin and it was a tough angle for the ref even though he should have jumped in earlier.

MMAEYES wrote:

OU wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

Yeah but how long is it before you get brain damage without air to the brain. I bet Mizu got some brain damage for his ego trip.

It takes a full 3 minutes without oxygen at the least to get any sort of brain damage. You aren't going to have any damage from not tapping in a fight.

So it would take choking a guy for like 5 mins straight to kill them?

Might be able to crush his wind pipe after he loses consciousness.

LOL I was just asking cause when it was brought up I thought of how fake movies are where some guy chokes another guy for a couple secs or like one min and the guy dies lol

Yeah, usually it's the crushing of the windpipe that kills people who are choked to death. But yeah, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest with a minute of pillow smothering probably wouldn't kill anyone. But it does take shorter amounts of time when you're older, so maybe it's possible.