Toni Valtonen displays his White Pride

I thought Derek Vinyard was simply a character in a movie...

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Native American's make a killing around here with Casinos. Comanche Nation owns everything around here. Anyone that has any Comanche in them gets a nice little check every year. Not to mention they get other benefits as well like they don't have to pay for car tags. Of course I'm not defending anything that happened to Indians(they preffer that around here) in the past.

Yah, having Native American blood can have it's benefits these days, but still, the rate of alcoholism and suicide among native americans is extremely high and as of 2000 the poverty rates of Native American's was 25.9% (8.2% for white people) I think that has improved since then, but still, it's not like every native american is rolling in casino dough now.

Wolfy, I actually agree with your post bro.

Jruq wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Native American's make a killing around here with Casinos. Comanche Nation owns everything around here. Anyone that has any Comanche in them gets a nice little check every year. Not to mention they get other benefits as well like they don't have to pay for car tags. Of course I'm not defending anything that happened to Indians(they preffer that around here) in the past.

Yah, having Native American blood can have it's benefits these days, but still, the rate of alcoholism and suicide among native americans is extremely high and as of 2000 the poverty rates of Native American's was 25.9% (8.2% for white people) I think that has improved since then, but still, it's not like every native american is rolling in casino dough now.

You have to be the right kind on Indian, some don't get shit. Comanche Nation though is doing very well around here. They are rolling in the dough. I have never seen an Indian that wasn't a big drinker but that doesn't mean they are depressed. They just love that fire water. I was more or less joking, even though what I am saying is true(around here).

Indians get scholarships each semester for school.


I would like to understand and comprehend how if everything is equal in this country, then why do every race except whites get scholarships? I dont care if people are a minority honestly, thats not our fault. You dont see whites going down to mexico or africa and getting scholarships for their colleges.

Its stupid, scholarships should be earned and not given. I do not believe grants should be given to specific races either. How is that fair to a guy like me? Im paying for my own school like alotta people do, why dont I get any grants? Because our government's policies are too fuckin stupid and just because my dad and his new wife (whom I dont even live with) make a pretty good amount of money, I get nothing because they just assume that they're gonna pay for my schooling which they do not.

This country is gonna go into the stink-hole here soon because of the idiots running our country.

I was actually discussing this with a friend of mine and we think the alcoholism ihas to do with Native American's not having a history of drinking like European's. Because of this they have little tolerence for alcohol like us paleskins. Well, I suppose it's a contributing factor at the least.

Jruq wrote:

I was actually discussing this with a friend of mine and we think the alcoholism ihas to do with Native American's not having a history of drinking like European's. Because of this they have little tolerence for alcohol like us paleskins. Well, I suppose it's a contributing factor at the least.

Me chief...me want...Fire water...

Jruq wrote:

I was actually discussing this with a friend of mine and we think the alcoholism ihas to do with Native American's not having a history of drinking like European's. Because of this they have little tolerence for alcohol like us paleskins. Well, I suppose it's a contributing factor at the least.

I don't know about that, Indians have had that fire water for a long time now.

NoRegret- I know plenty of people that got much larger scholarships then me just because of race. I know Indians that had much lower scores then me and got all their college paid for. It is frustrating.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Jruq wrote:

I was actually discussing this with a friend of mine and we think the alcoholism ihas to do with Native American's not having a history of drinking like European's. Because of this they have little tolerence for alcohol like us paleskins. Well, I suppose it's a contributing factor at the least.

NoRegret- I know plenty of people that got much larger scholarships then me just because of race. I know Indians that had much lower scores then me and got all their college paid for. It is frustrating.

I agree. It absolutely pisses me off. Stupid, stupid policies by our country. It's their way of saying "We're sorry for taking your country over" or "Sorry for the hundreds of years of slavery." or "Sorry you're not white."

Its fuckin stupidity. Lets give money to people that for the most part, arent gonna try in college anyways. Smart move by our government. Half of the young people around my age that are minorities could give two shits less about any of that anymore anyways. I shake my head at our government.

And just to add on the subject. Back when I was dated this sexy latina up here for about 14 months, she told me she was getting $6,000 a year in grants for being hispanic...HOW PATHETIC IS THAT

and our government wants to know where the money is going. how bout all your lame ass grants for people that dont deserve it, yet get it because of being a minority.

Im white, I have no problem with minorities getting scholarships. Why? Cause in almost every other facet of life in the US it is easier to be white.

Jruq wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You need to understand why white nationalists feel the way they do. I can give some insider perspective.

Low self esteem, little intelligence and a history of inbreeding sums that up well.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

No disrespect to the people of Africa who had their languages, religions and cultures ripped from them by slavery, but blacks didn't build this country, they picked cotton, and there were no other races, Native Americans not withstanding, outside of Europeans in significant numbers until after WW2 to render any major contribution enough to change the reality that whites conquered, cleared and built nearly this entire country.

The people who build the country were all minorites, regardless of skin color - the Chinese had a huge part in building our Railroads, for example. Not to mention, the textile industry had a pretty nice boost with all of the free labor. Also, slaughtering the Native Americans is not something to be proud of.

Not to be argumentative, but who should get credit for amazing feats like the pyramids, Sears tower, etc., the builders or the engineers and designers who actually came up with the logistics? To me, the designer and engineer are the ones that should get the credit. Grunt work is grunt work and anyone can do it. Not everyone can become an engineer or a designer of railroads, buildings, factories, etc. But I do see your point. Lots have helped in shaping this nation.

captain organic wrote:

Im white, I have no problem with minorities getting scholarships. Why? Cause in almost every other facet of life in the US it is easier to be white.

Again...why should I have to pay for O.P.P.?

Thats stupid. Equality is something this country preaches but does not enforce, especially since whites were the ones that founded this country (after taking it from the indians.)

NoRegret wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Im white, I have no problem with minorities getting scholarships. Why? Cause in almost every other facet of life in the US it is easier to be white.

Again...why should I have to pay for O.P.P.?

Thats stupid. Equality is something this country preaches but does not enforce, especially since whites were the ones that founded this country (after taking it from the indians.)

LOL

Thought someone might find humor in that lol

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You need to understand why white nationalists feel the way they do. I can give some insider perspective.

The reason whites are into white pride is not some stupid fairy tale notion of "evil" or "blue eye'd devil greed", but a very real fears of change, the loss of power and loss of cultural identity. Whites as people world wide are castrated by guilt and the subconscious notion that even though we all live in white socities, we owe it to the victimized races to make it a point to reject our own culture. This is why it's now cool to act black, listen to hiphop, and fuck black guys. Rejecting the white establishment has been a trendy thing to do for shit, nearly 60 years now.

No disrespect to the people of Africa who had their languages, religions and cultures ripped from them by slavery, but blacks didn't build this country, they picked cotton, and there were no other races, Native Americans not withstanding, outside of Europeans in significant numbers until after WW2 to render any major contribution enough to change the reality that whites conquered, cleared and built nearly this entire country. I am talking about the grand scheme of things, naturally blacks or this race or that race invented peanut butter here or there, but look at the big picture. With the change in philosophy especially after ww2 towards all races and universal acceptance, it's only natural the ruling race wouldn't go down without a fight.

Imagine if China was no longer about the Chinese people. Don't know that they'd take it lying down either. Imagine if Chinese pride was then made immoral since it was insensitive to immigrants or other races once enslaved? I know "American" never directly meant "white American", for the vast majority of the nations history, this was the defacto truth.

As a white man I don't think it's fair I in essence don't get to even have a race in our society anymore. This drove me to pure white nationalism in my college years. While I never shaved my head or joined any of the skinhead gangs out there, I might as well have.

I've mellowed out from my rahowa days, but I'll never not love being of white European decent. I'll never not resent race traitors or the destruction of the original core of this country. I really don't know what to believe or feel anymore. I try to tune out racial thoughts because it just makes me angry and bitter at life, and living in America in today's society is impossible if you're an activist white nationalist, believe me, I know.

Am I a racist? Some, those who would have us believe whites don't deserve to be angry or pround of our heritage or have the right to sustain ourselves as a definable people, would probably say so.

If you were a good person of any background or ethnicity would I respect you and treat you the same as a white person? I would definitely say so.

This post is a big pile of dung. The highlighted portions are the higher concentrations of stink.

NoRegret wrote:

Thought someone might find humor in that lol

I find most of your thoughts on this topic as straight up ignorance.

captain organic wrote:

Im white, I have no problem with minorities getting scholarships. Why? Cause in almost every other facet of life in the US it is easier to be white.

Personally, I do not agree with the principles of affirmative action. However, a professor once explained it to me better then anyone on the pro-affirmative action side has, and though I don't agree, I understand the idea. He explained that what affirmative action does, is make up for the lack of advancement of notoriously discriminated races due to their race. For example, he explained that a white person who is middle class has strived and gotten to that point, and likely was not precluded from jobs in that families earlier generations due to their skin. However, a black middle class family has gotten to that point in the face of their parents and grandparents having to face discrimination that prevented them from attaining a high caliber job (the theory is based on the idea that you will achieve more then your parents, and so on and so on). Therefore, even though both families are middle class in this example, the black family would get affirmative action because in theory, had it not been for the prejudice their parents, grandparents, etc. experienced, they might be upper class by now. That is why blacks, who are more well off then some whites will still receive the benefits of affirmative action.

Now, the system is perversed because minority groups that didnt have a history of discrimination in this country receive the benefits too. According to my old professor's logic, the only one's who should be eligible for affirmative action are those minorities who can prove their family lived in the U.S. prior to the Civil Rights Act. Personally, I think affirmative action is outdated, but the example above makes sense on some levels.

captain organic wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

Thought someone might find humor in that lol

I find most of your thoughts on this topic as straight up ignorance.

Well you sir, obviously buy into everything the media puts into your head.

You're a sheeple. Thank you for your input though.

Wait Jimbo - didn't Aliens create the pyramids?

Let me ask you something Captain Organic if you're so smart. This is actually an easy question for people that are not "ignorant"...and dont look up the anwer you prack.

Who was our country named after?

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Jruq wrote:

I was actually discussing this with a friend of mine and we think the alcoholism ihas to do with Native American's not having a history of drinking like European's. Because of this they have little tolerence for alcohol like us paleskins. Well, I suppose it's a contributing factor at the least.

I don't know about that, Indians have had that fire water for a long time now.
NoRegret- I know plenty of people that got much larger scholarships then me just because of race. I know Indians that had much lower scores then me and got all their college paid for. It is frustrating.

Not for thousands of years - just a few hundred. Anyhow, it's just a theory and if true, probably just a factor.

NoRegret wrote:

Let me ask you something Captain Organic if you're so smart. This is actually an easy question for people that are not "ignorant"...and dont look up the anwer you prack.

Who was our country named after?

I believe it comes from some European explorer. but of coarse this has nothing to do with the topic, nor your ignorant thoughts on it.

captain organic wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

Let me ask you something Captain Organic if you're so smart. This is actually an easy question for people that are not "ignorant"...and dont look up the anwer you prack.

Who was our country named after?

I believe it comes from some European explorer. but of coarse this has nothing to do with the topic, nor your ignorant thoughts on it.

His name was Amerigo Vespucci. Get some knowledge before your over-pretentious, egotistical ass comes on here critiquing someone elses posts.

My guess is, you know nothing about what this country was foundated upon, none of the current polices, hell I bet you cant even tell me what the 3rd amendment of the constitution is.

Ignorance in your perception would make over half of the people on these boards ignorant. More people on here would agree (whether partially or fully) with my opinion over yours.

Its all about semantics Captain Organic, try using a different set of words when shooting down one's opinion because for you to say what I am saying is ignorant is making yourself look like an idiot. Kudos to you big boy.

NoRegret wrote:

captain organic wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

Thought someone might find humor in that lol

I find most of your thoughts on this topic as straight up ignorance.

Well you sir, obviously buy into everything the media puts into your head.

You're a sheeple. Thank you for your input though.

yeah the media did it. and sheeple? beyond that being corny I would think that better describes the nazi movement on which this whole debate has stemmed.

Being a "sheeple"(again fucking corny) would have led me to be racist like most of the white folk in my town and my family are.