Toni Valtonen displays his White Pride

6 million jews? Who really believes that shit? There weren't even six million jews living in Europe...

Wolfgangsta wrote:

6 million jews? Who really believes that shit? There weren't even six million jews living in Europe...

Are you a member of the Aryan brotherhood or are you just trying to spark arguments? lol

Nope, neither, just a history major. There has never been any proof of six million. That is a lie. The real number was between 1-3 million.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nope, neither, just a history major. There has never been any proof of six million. That is a lie. The real number was between 1-3 million.

Thats not alot or anything lol

No one said it wasn't a lot, it's just misinformation by the zionist media to make the holocaust worse than it was when there have been many other war crimes and genocides with comparable or worse numbers the jew media never talks about.

Racism and racial bias is a two way street - just because jews were genocided by Germans sick of jews running their banks and making porno doesn't mean we should give extra attention to them now or be afraid to criticize misreported information or allow them to genocide and oppress Muslims in the middle east.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

No one said it wasn't a lot, it's just misinformation by the zionist media to make the holocaust worse than it was when there have been many other war crimes and genocides with comparable or worse numbers the jew media never talks about.

Racism and racial bias is a two way street - just because jews were genocided by Germans sick of jews running their banks and making porno doesn't mean we should give extra attention to them now or be afraid to criticize misreported information or allow them to genocide and oppress Muslims in the middle east.

And you tried to present your case as one for historical accuracy? The bolded portions say it all. Your inquest towards the Holocaust is motivated by anti-semitism, plain and simple. Any tattoos you wanna show us Wolf?

Not anti-semitism, Anti-Zionist. Big difference. But that's all the same to you, right?

Love how the zionist's that control education and the media have colored the debate and silenced free speech and critics.

No Nazi tat's, just an anti-Christian one.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Not anti-semitism, Anti-Zionist. Big difference. But that's all the same to you, right?

Love how the zionist's that control education and the media have colored the debate and silenced free speech and critics.

No Nazi tat's, just an anti-Christian one.

I highlighted lines in your post where you call them the "Jew media" and go about how Germans didn't want "Jews" controlling their banks. How is that Zionism? A Zionist can be of any religion, but you targeted Jews in your post, and used the term "Jew media" which is clearly an anti-semetic remark. Additionally, there were approximately 9.5 million Jews in Europe, circa 1933 according to census numbers.

You see, I understand full and well the difference between anti-semetism and anti-zionism. You are of the ilk that like to mask your anti-semetism in anti-zionism, as I demonstrated in your prior post, then go off about how you are wrongfully accused of being an anti-semite by the "Jew media" for your disagreement with the state of Israel. True anti-zionist thinkers do not use terms like "Jew media" and say the Germans simply didn't want "the Jews running their banks." With that line and you can reread it in your original post, you basically justified what the Nazi's did because after all, they were simply just sick of these Jews running their banks, right? Whats next, are you going to quote from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

Nice work Jimbo, underestimated you. What you failed to grasp is everything I said in this thread is truth colored with a trollish bullshit paintbrush.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nice work Jimbo, underestimated you. What you failed to grasp is everything I said in this thread is truth colored with a trollish bullshit paintbrush.

I see...

JimboJones1 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nice work Jimbo, underestimated you. What you failed to grasp is everything I said in this thread is truth colored with a trollish bullshit paintbrush.

I see...

Damn, I've got to learn that...

can't teach an old dog new tricks, or an old bitter man for that matter...

Do they let x-cons compete in mma?

Jruq wrote:

Brown Pride, Black power, women's rights movements and Gay pride movements are completely different. These people have been discriminated against, lynched, beaten, had no voting rights (among other rights) and been told they are inferior because of how they are born. As a result, there is a need for people to repair their damaged sense of self, after society has told them they are inferior.

Not to mention, no matter how much someone tells you otherwise, anyone who is into "white pride" is really just racist as hell with an inferiority complex. Really, "White Pride" is not about being proud of your heritage, it's about hate. Just read Toni's muffin top and that becomes clear.

how could black power not be racist but white pride has to be??

I asked one of my hispanic friends about cains tatoo. his response was "that was stupid"

I am all for the betterment of people in general but to use history as an excuse for the present slows progression

I agree Cubua.

Pride and love for one's own can only accompany bias and hate at times. If I were black I would find it difficult not to be filled with hate for whites.

I wish people stopped trying to moralize out culture and human nature.

Cu Bua wrote:

Jruq wrote:

Brown Pride, Black power, women's rights movements and Gay pride movements are completely different. These people have been discriminated against, lynched, beaten, had no voting rights (among other rights) and been told they are inferior because of how they are born. As a result, there is a need for people to repair their damaged sense of self, after society has told them they are inferior.

Not to mention, no matter how much someone tells you otherwise, anyone who is into "white pride" is really just racist as hell with an inferiority complex. Really, "White Pride" is not about being proud of your heritage, it's about hate. Just read Toni's muffin top and that becomes clear.

how could black power not be racist but white pride has to be??

I asked one of my hispanic friends about cains tatoo. his response was "that was stupid"

I am all for the betterment of people in general but to use history as an excuse for the present slows progression

And if your hispanic friend says it's stupid then it must be stupid?

Certainly you must acknowledge that the past influences the present.

Cu Bua wrote:

Jruq wrote:

Brown Pride, Black power, women's rights movements and Gay pride movements are completely different. These people have been discriminated against, lynched, beaten, had no voting rights (among other rights) and been told they are inferior because of how they are born. As a result, there is a need for people to repair their damaged sense of self, after society has told them they are inferior.

Not to mention, no matter how much someone tells you otherwise, anyone who is into "white pride" is really just racist as hell with an inferiority complex. Really, "White Pride" is not about being proud of your heritage, it's about hate. Just read Toni's muffin top and that becomes clear.

how could black power not be racist but white pride has to be??

I asked one of my hispanic friends about cains tatoo. his response was "that was stupid"

I am all for the betterment of people in general but to use history as an excuse for the present slows progression

After Slavery and then decreased rights until VERY recently, the Black power movement was neccesary. Whether or not it was twisted and the participants are racist, well that is certainly debatable.

The reason that black power is not racist, and white power is, has everything to do with how much power the races have had and do have. White power is really just greedy, no?

Now don't get me wrong, I am not in favor of reperations and I think we have made amazing progress in the last 50 years. As things become more equitable in law and practice, movements, like black, gay, brown pride - feminism and others no longer become neccesary.

Oh, and I have a black friend who is in favor of the white pride movement, and he speaks for every black person, right?

I am not a racist, though I know quite a few, but I so don't care if he hates ppl. I mean nobody ever discusses racism without the burden being laid strictly at the feet of white folks. The Japanese have a notorious history of racism, as do the Indians (meaning from India), the Chinese, the Jews, Arabs and of course blacks. So I choose not to make a big deal out of it until it gets thrown at me. Hell I got in trouble at work because some co-workers ordered pizza, didn't mention it to me and I said sarcastically "I see how you people are" and because 3 of them, not all but three of them were black, they said it was a racist remark. My boss called me in to the office and started throwing a fit, I looked him dead in the eye and said "so you are telling me that people is now the 'P' word?" That ended that shit.

captain organic wrote:

Cu Bua wrote:

Jruq wrote:

Brown Pride, Black power, women's rights movements and Gay pride movements are completely different. These people have been discriminated against, lynched, beaten, had no voting rights (among other rights) and been told they are inferior because of how they are born. As a result, there is a need for people to repair their damaged sense of self, after society has told them they are inferior.

Not to mention, no matter how much someone tells you otherwise, anyone who is into "white pride" is really just racist as hell with an inferiority complex. Really, "White Pride" is not about being proud of your heritage, it's about hate. Just read Toni's muffin top and that becomes clear.

how could black power not be racist but white pride has to be??

I asked one of my hispanic friends about cains tatoo. his response was "that was stupid"

I am all for the betterment of people in general but to use history as an excuse for the present slows progression

And if your hispanic friend says it's stupid then it must be stupid?

Certainly you must acknowledge that the past influences the present.

right but when does the past become a crutch?
i posted about my friend because it is relevent. Like i would say a white guy with the white pride tatoo is "a dumb thing to put on you"
would you say its stupid to put white pride on you if your white?
if so then how can it not be dumb for anyone else?

You need to understand why white nationalists feel the way they do. I can give some insider perspective.

The reason whites are into white pride is not some stupid fairy tale notion of "evil" or "blue eye'd devil greed", but a very real fears of change, the loss of power and loss of cultural identity. Whites as people world wide are castrated by guilt and the subconscious notion that even though we all live in white socities, we owe it to the victimized races to make it a point to reject our own culture. This is why it's now cool to act black, listen to hiphop, and fuck black guys. Rejecting the white establishment has been a trendy thing to do for shit, nearly 60 years now.

No disrespect to the people of Africa who had their languages, religions and cultures ripped from them by slavery, but blacks didn't build this country, they picked cotton, and there were no other races, Native Americans not withstanding, outside of Europeans in significant numbers until after WW2 to render any major contribution enough to change the reality that whites conquered, cleared and built nearly this entire country. I am talking about the grand scheme of things, naturally blacks or this race or that race invented peanut butter here or there, but look at the big picture. With the change in philosophy especially after ww2 towards all races and universal acceptance, it's only natural the ruling race wouldn't go down without a fight.

Imagine if China was no longer about the Chinese people. Don't know that they'd take it lying down either. Imagine if Chinese pride was then made immoral since it was insensitive to immigrants or other races once enslaved? I know "American" never directly meant "white American", for the vast majority of the nations history, this was the defacto truth.

As a white man I don't think it's fair I in essence don't get to even have a race in our society anymore. This drove me to pure white nationalism in my college years. While I never shaved my head or joined any of the skinhead gangs out there, I might as well have.

I've mellowed out from my rahowa days, but I'll never not love being of white European decent. I'll never not resent race traitors or the destruction of the original core of this country. I really don't know what to believe or feel anymore. I try to tune out racial thoughts because it just makes me angry and bitter at life, and living in America in today's society is impossible if you're an activist white nationalist, believe me, I know.

Am I a racist? Some, those who would have us believe whites don't deserve to be angry or pround of our heritage or have the right to sustain ourselves as a definable people, would probably say so.

If you were a good person of any background or ethnicity would I respect you and treat you the same as a white person? I would definitely say so.

this guy makes me sick... fuck him and all people that are nazi mother fuckers, the combination of tattoos witht his guy tells u all u need to know this guy is prideful of being white but also hates anyone who isnt!..

CVF, my Mom, who worked for the Holocaust Center in Maitland, FL had to work with ppl like this guy. I hate to admit it, but Wolf does have a few valid points, which leads to this. A lot of white kids in America don't have any identity and they usually find it the hard way. A lot of these skinheads, neo-Nazis and such are going to have a hard time in society, because the make-up has shifted so much that their protesting through perceived-racist body art makes maintaining employment difficult at best. Additionally, if this guy has done any time, he has to hang with racist to stay protected, because what happens in prison is completely fucking insane. Blacks with blacks, whites with whites, Asians with Asians, etc. The only time that doesn't count in the hole is with Mexicans because they have several subgroups that are constantly fighting. So if homey did time, he got the tats to go with it. So give the guy a brek, maybe he is trying to get his shit together, that or he'll scream "Remember the Alamo!"

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You need to understand why white nationalists feel the way they do. I can give some insider perspective.

Low self esteem, little intelligence and a history of inbreeding sums that up well.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

No disrespect to the people of Africa who had their languages, religions and cultures ripped from them by slavery, but blacks didn't build this country, they picked cotton, and there were no other races, Native Americans not withstanding, outside of Europeans in significant numbers until after WW2 to render any major contribution enough to change the reality that whites conquered, cleared and built nearly this entire country.

The people who build the country were all minorites, regardless of skin color - the Chinese had a huge part in building our Railroads, for example. Not to mention, the textile industry had a pretty nice boost with all of the free labor. Also, slaughtering the Native Americans is not something to be proud of.

Native American's make a killing around here with Casinos. Comanche Nation owns everything around here. Anyone that has any Comanche in them gets a nice little check every year. Not to mention they get other benefits as well like they don't have to pay for car tags. Of course I'm not defending anything that happened to Indians(they preffer that around here) in the past.