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 Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?

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Is it possible he could draw 500K buys?
He would never be able to pull those numbers.
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He can headline 500+ if he continues to win like he has.
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He could sell 500K, but only if he starts finishing fights.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?   Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV? - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 5:24 pm

The average since UFC 107 or so has been 600k.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?   Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV? - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 5:34 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
LA wrote:
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Not even a well known Champion, never could headline and carry a card wtih him, maybe as the co-main with a bigtime HW or LHW fight.

Translate that into something that makes a clear statement.

Not even a well known Champ, never could headline and carry a card with him, maybe as the co-main with a bigtime HW or LHW fight.

So you're actually meaning to say that a well known champ couldn't carry a card with him either? That statement which is pretty absurd, coupled with the gawd awful gagglefuck of a sentence that was(I mean awful) made me believe you were trying to say something else. My mistake LA.

Not even a well known Champ (Dominick Cruz is not a well known Champion to the masses outside more hardcore MMA fans, ala ourselves)

never could headline and carry a card with him (Sticking with the posted topic, he would not be able to headline a show and have the weight of the show be carried by his name)

maybe as the co-main with a bigtime HW or LHW fight (In the event a show is to be featuring Dominick Cruz, in order for said event to break 500k in PPV buys, it would be necessary to schedule Cruz's fight as a Co-Main event, most likely followed by a top HW or LHW match)
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Yeesh. Now I follow ya.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?   Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV? - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 5:38 pm

After "Not even a well known Champ", the coma (,) indicated a pause, therefore it does not read "Not even a well know Champ never could headline and carry a card with him", but "Not even a well known Champ....... never could headline and carry a card with him"
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Maybe use periods and caps appropriately when separating thoughts next time. K?
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PostSubject: Re: Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?   Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV? - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:56 pm

Or use complete sentences instead of fragments.
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No Bantamweight fight will ever draw 500,000 buys as the main event. The only way possible is if they have a great co-main event.

Freak, no offense but that is baseless poppycock. You personally must not like little guys or something because you always say this but there isn't a shred of truth to it in any data. If Faber becomes the BW champion in 2011 500k is the basement for what he would do with average UFC quality co-mains.

Faber doesn't impress me and I don't know how well known he is in America but over here in australia hardly anybody has ever heard of him an even less of Cruz. If they make those numbers then all the best to them. The only person beneath lightweight I'd pay to see though is Jose Aldo.
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Do you have the WEC in Australia?
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No. We get the UFC, Strikeforce and last month started getting Bellator.
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Looks like the majority of the board agree with me in the poll.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?   Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV? - Page 2 EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 7:24 pm

I'll ask a question. Why isn't Anderson Silva a huge draw?
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chorky777 wrote:
Or use complete sentences instead of fragments.

A conjunction should not begin a sentence.
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Faber could headline a solid UFC card and break 500K, very very popular fighter.
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I'll ask a question. Why isn't Anderson Silva a huge draw?

His disdain for English, nationality and race working in concert.
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Brock is hated and he's the biggest draw. Maybe everyone knows he wont lose. I think a GSP-Silva ppv could break the Brock-Mir 2 record.
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GSP isn't as big a draw as Brock, Brock brings the most casual fans (i.e. Pro-Wrestling fans)
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GSP is number 2 though. I think the UFC would promote a GSP-Silva fight more than any fight in history.
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True, it could be big, I still don't think it tops the record, plus that is making one of the best possible fights in MMA, imagine if you made Brock vs Fedor. This is off track on the thread though.
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Brock-Fedor would be the biggest fight in history.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV?   Could Dominick Cruz ever carry a PPV? - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 12:21 am

Regarding Freak's comments on page 1. FW and BW will be able to head a PPV given time with UFC's marketing. They have the most exciting fights. Incredibly talented fighters. Look at Floyd and Pac. Two little guys who are famous because they have exciting, fast paced fights and are incredibly talented. They would also be FW or BW if they fought MMA. Pretty much the only thing keeping boxing relevant right now. If Urijah Faber had been in UFC all this time during his run, FW would already be headline ready. Maybe if Miguel Torres had his fights with Maeda and Mizugaki on a UFC PPV perhaps BW would be PPV ready as well. It's completely asinine to say they will never head a PPV because i guarantee they will once the divisions fully settle into the UFC.

Regarding the original topic. Cruz won't ever lead a 500K PPV, I don't think he'll get a chance to headline a PPV during his reighn because I don't see him being a long reigning champ and i don't see UFC looking to the FW and BW divisions to headline PPV's in the first year or two unless some established LW names move down to fight Aldo.

When i say Cruz won't be a dominating champ it does not mean i have a name who can beat him...but i have a feeling somebody will beat him sooner rather than later. Afterall, i never expected Bowles to come up and dethrone Torres and Cruz to dethrone Bowles. I bet Faber would probably have that ass if they fought again.



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