Was TUF 10 that bad?

Birdofthad wrote:

they would definitely take them im just saying you wont see 1 of these guys competitive vs the top 5 in the division

Meh, you don't know that. Pro wrestlers and construction workers who wrestled ten years prior can waltz in off the street and into the top five.

Madsen wrestled Brock in college and lost, and in High school is where he beat him

Dos Santos the best HW striker in the World beat Yvel, but Barnett and Rothwell did not beat him like Madsen did.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nelson vs Carwin is a pretty even fight for me and I've always said Nelson would beat Lesnar. Shaub is fast and athletic with a good ground and standing game. Madsen is a top level wrestler who actually beat Lesnar in college in wrestling.

Yeah right LOL.

Birdofthad wrote:

and seriously who hasnt destroyed Gilbert Yvel lately?

Same goes for Gonzaga.

But tuf 10 had some good athletes on it who as they continue to learn the game are going to be fairly dangerous.

Nelson would wreck Lesnar. Face it.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nelson would wreck Lesnar. Face it.

What would make u believe that. He was a nice punching bag for JDS but that dont mean he would beat Brock.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The UFC didn't give him a fair shake. I suppose his contract was over valued per his skill but he could have still won fights or at least been in entertaining fights with Travis Brown or Paul Buentello. Who am I kidding, they'd probably both take his head clean off.

Nah Kimbo continues to get an undeserved cold shoulder from the HC MMA fan. Dude battled Mitirione and may have fared better if he was not trying to pick the guy up and slam him at every turn, and Nelson wanted no part of his standup. Granted with his legs, he's always in trouble of getting crippled out there but as far as brawling skills/talent, I thought he had something.

I've thought that for years. Unlike you timmeh I didn't hear about Nelson on TUF. Dude has been a top ten type HW since he fought in the IFL.

timthebim wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nelson would wreck Lesnar. Face it.

What would make u believe that. He was a nice punching bag for JDS but that dont mean he would beat Brock.

And brock has been a punching bag two fights in a row. Difference is Nelson does not cower in fear.

Ya but capt, big muscles, the best wrestling in the universe, super powers remember?

I knew about Roy also since then but to humor me gimmie his biggest name win??? His claim to fame is pretty much a close loss to AA. I love Big Country but he isnt beating Brock. Cain beat him but that doesnt mean every top 15 or 20 guy will.

Nothin about that Madsen beating Brock in wrestling post?

But I'd take Brock still over Nelson, would be a very good fight though, still think Brock could get him down, Jr did in recent memory.

Tim, Werdum beat Fedor so that means he can beat every HW in the World remember?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Ya but capt, big muscles, the best wrestling in the universe, super powers remember?

Isnt about no super powers its just he is big and strong enough to take Roy down and pound out a UD or TKO stoppage.

LA wrote:

Tim, Werdum beat Fedor so that means he can beat every HW in the World remember?

Yeah I hear u. 2 of the biggest punchers in the sport hurt Brock so now everybody is gonna KO him!

timthebim wrote:

I knew about Roy also since then but to humor me gimmie his biggest name win??? His claim to fame is pretty much a close loss to AA. I love Big Country but he isnt beating Brock. Cain beat him but that doesnt mean every top 15 or 20 guy will.

But Cain did not just beat him, he destroyed him. Carwin should have too. Nothing that Brock did made Carwin gas in 3 minutes time.

U guys really have to come to grips with Brock not being as good as he was hyped to be.

Nelson is as big a puncher as those guys or close enough to where it wouldn't matter.

Nelson has some of the best grappling in the division. I still have no clue where the idea that Lesnar is immune to submissions and sweeps comes from.

timthebim wrote:

LA wrote:

Tim, Werdum beat Fedor so that means he can beat every HW in the World remember?

Yeah I hear u. 2 of the biggest punchers in the sport hurt Brock so now everybody is gonna KO him!

It's the HWY division, there are punchers galore out there.

captain organic wrote:

timthebim wrote:

I knew about Roy also since then but to humor me gimmie his biggest name win??? His claim to fame is pretty much a close loss to AA. I love Big Country but he isnt beating Brock. Cain beat him but that doesnt mean every top 15 or 20 guy will.

But Cain did not just beat him, he destroyed him. Carwin should have too. Nothing that Brock did made Carwin gas in 3 minutes time.

U guys really have to come to grips with Brock not being as good as he was hyped to be.

Naw fuck it capt. Let em ride this horse as long as they can, just for my personal amusement when he loses again.

wow wolf u late ur hate blind you playa

Birdofthad wrote:

wow wolf u late ur hate blind you playa

Ya like I let it blind me every time I pick a main event right when the whole forum doesn't. This fight. Page-Shad. The list goes on and on. I really don't care some dude using gambling site picks on the undercards to make records look better too, like I suspect two different users of doing.

captain organic wrote:

timthebim wrote:

I knew about Roy also since then but to humor me gimmie his biggest name win??? His claim to fame is pretty much a close loss to AA. I love Big Country but he isnt beating Brock. Cain beat him but that doesnt mean every top 15 or 20 guy will.

But Cain did not just beat him, he destroyed him. Carwin should have too. Nothing that Brock did made Carwin gas in 3 minutes time.

U guys really have to come to grips with Brock not being as good as he was hyped to be.

He isnt a good as he was hyped u r right but he isnt as bad as u would like to think either.

Lesnar is about as good as I figured he was. 8-15 range. I could see five fighters in both SF and the UFC beating him at least.

Or you guys have to come to grips with a guy losing to two other HWs that would probably beat all but 2 others in the World, isn't that big a deal, also happen to be the 2 hardest hitting fighters in MMA. Capt. believed in Rogers he shouldn't say shit.

timthebim wrote:

captain organic wrote:

timthebim wrote:

I knew about Roy also since then but to humor me gimmie his biggest name win??? His claim to fame is pretty much a close loss to AA. I love Big Country but he isnt beating Brock. Cain beat him but that doesnt mean every top 15 or 20 guy will.

But Cain did not just beat him, he destroyed him. Carwin should have too. Nothing that Brock did made Carwin gas in 3 minutes time.

U guys really have to come to grips with Brock not being as good as he was hyped to be.

He isnt a good as he was hyped u r right but he isnt as bad as u would like to think either.

how bad do I thin he is? I'll admit I think people ranking brock at #2 is totally ridiculous. But I still see him in the top 10.

Fact is, he has just 7 fights, it's hard know how good he is.