You Guys Want to do an Immortal Scetion Here????

Sooners had a great idea on boxing board and i really like it check it out and let me know if you think having one for this board is a good idea????

Fill em in on the details.

basically we have avote, it will be alot easier since modern MMA/NHB has only been around a while

everyone votes on their immortals, immortals are only the pure greats Im talking best of the best.

if one recieves 75 percent of the votes he is an immortal then we make an imortal sticky section and place their names and pictures with some info on the fighters

we could have two votes 1990-2000 and 2000-2010

make sense?

I am down.

Makes sense and its a good idea I just dont like that Sooner came up with it LOL.

timthebim wrote:

Makes sense and its a good idea I just dont like that Sooner came up with it LOL.

HAHA I was gonna say that but I spared her.

hahaha it was either marbe or sooners i think it was sooners

How many fighters? What separates an immortal from a non immortal?

any one that gets voted in

well here is an example from the boxing section

Pernell Whitaker is a clear all time great fighter, he was voted in as an immortal

Oscar De La Hoya who was a great fighter was not voted in let me get the criteria

1. MUST have been THE MAN in at least one division for an extended period of time. Exceptions for race and family issues.
2. MUST have at least 17 wins over ranked fighters.
3. MUST have been "fully tested." That means the guy cannot have say 3+ guys he should have fought and didn't. The three is negotiable.
4. MUST have winning record against championship quality competition.

this was for boxing so i would suggest

1. Must have been the Man in at least one division for a good amount of time
2. Must have atleast 10 wins over ranked opponents (or for preranking era someone we can agree was a ranked fighter)
3. Same as in the boxing section
4. Winning record against quality of opposition

so here is an example

Bas Rutten would be a immortal, I dont think Marco Ruas qualifies

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this was for boxing so i would suggest

1. Must have been the Man in at least one division for a good amount of time
2. Must have atleast 10 wins over ranked opponents (or for preranking era someone we can agree was a ranked fighter)
3. Same as in the boxing section
4. Winning record against quality of opposition

so here is an example

Bas Rutten would be a immortal, I dont think Marco Ruas qualifies

This makes it difficult to rank guys who didn't fight in Japan then, because some of these guys walked off the street, right out of whatever root martial art gym or dojo they practiced and into high level UFC competition, specifically guys like Couture, Coleman or anyone who made their debut in the UFC during the tournament era.

well Couture and Coleman where the legit men of their time and Coleman went on to have big time wins in 2000 and Couture had big wins so I would vote them as immortals

Dan Severn is a tough one, I dont think he would be an immortal

its also all on a vote so if some diasagree maybe more will vote for that erson

also if someone had say 50 or more percent but under 75 percent posters in boxing could make an argument for a person and then we would vote on them again

Sounds good to Me.

Also the ranked win count, and condition of no more than three ducked fighters or whatever don't make a lot of sense in the context of the early UFC format. The ranked fighters were ranked because they beat the sucky guys. It's how we told the two groups apart and few fighters had the luxury of a prospecting system that allows for a couple dozen can fights before the big show.

well simply put Royce he didnt duck guys this is obvious by taking the superfight

Ken didnt duck guys

Ruas never came back to UFC after winning a tournament

that help at all?

Birdofthad wrote:

well simply put Royce he didnt duck guys this is obvious by taking the superfight

Ken didnt duck guys

Ruas never came back to UFC after winning a tournament

that help at all?

So THATS what this is all about. You can't fool us, Bird!

no just trying to give him an example of how you could use that trying to give an example

Well it better be more legit than the boxing one. They didn't put Roy Jones Jr, Floyd Mayweather Jr or Kostya Tszyu in their one.

It just depends on what your definition of immortal is. If the boxing board put every great fighter on the list it would be way too big. Gotta cut that shit down to the true greats

exactly bobbitt
the point freak is to be extremely cynical

Roy didnt make it cause of fights he didnt have , Kostya cause of being semi guarded i guess and Floyd cause he is jsut hated, no reason for Pacquiao to make the boxing board list and not Floyd IMO

bobbitt15 wrote:

It just depends on what your definition of immortal is. If the boxing board put every great fighter on the list it would be way too big. Gotta cut that shit down to the true greats

Did you see how big theirs was? Anyway RJJ and FMJ are top 3 ever in their divisions.

Birdofthad wrote:

exactly bobbitt
the point freak is to be extremely cynical

Roy didnt make it cause of fights he didnt have , Kostya cause of being semi guarded i guess and Floyd cause he is jsut hated, no reason for Pacquiao to make the boxing board list and not Floyd IMO

Kostya was guarded from nobody. He took on everyone at 140. Roy at his peak at Light Heavyweight is unbeatable against anyone in history. I agree though that if Pacquiao made the list then Floyd should also.

This is the MMA forum so I should stick to talking about that.

Well I highly disagree with both of those which is why I didn't vote for them. Roy Jones isn't even top 10 in at LHW all-time IMO. What weight class are we talking about with Floyd? I wouldn't have him anywhere near the top anyway

bobbitt15 wrote:

Well I highly disagree with both of those which is why I didn't vote for them. Roy Jones isn't even top 10 in at LHW all-time IMO. What weight class are we talking about with Floyd? I wouldn't have him anywhere near the top anyway

Another person degrading the boxing present for the past. People value the boxing past too much when modern day fighters are stonger, faster and in better condition. Name 10 LH's that could beat Roy. They wouldn't be able to touch him. Name 3 other guys in history that could've won titles from Middleweight to Heavyweight.